96rs for sale...
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Alpinestars said:
Am I the only one who thinks Apolo is going to do another U turn as soon as Fioran (Neil?) decides to take the bait?
It's been said before, it'll be said again, but a bit of humility occasionally old boy.
Fioran will convince him so well that he will buy sell his dog of a 918 for it cannot do better than 2.5 seconds and put all that money into buying 996RS's Steve Rance has owned him on.It's been said before, it'll be said again, but a bit of humility occasionally old boy.
The old boy need Imodium for his fast & free flowing speech/text
Mermaid said:
Fioran will convince him so well that he will buy sell his dog of a 918 for it cannot do better than 2.5 seconds and put all that money into buying 996RS's Steve Rance has owned him on.
The old boy need Imodium for his fast & free flowing speech/text
there is just no point in responding....to this.....you have zero knowledge on what the 918 will do or not do...The old boy need Imodium for his fast & free flowing speech/text
this is going down the pits now.....
Mermaid said:
Alpinestars said:
Am I the only one who thinks Apolo is going to do another U turn as soon as Fioran (Neil?) decides to take the bait?
It's been said before, it'll be said again, but a bit of humility occasionally old boy.
Fioran will convince him so well that he will buy sell his dog of a 918 for it cannot do better than 2.5 seconds and put all that money into buying 996RS's Steve Rance has owned him on.It's been said before, it'll be said again, but a bit of humility occasionally old boy.
The old boy need Imodium for his fast & free flowing speech/text
fioran0 said:
One mans crap is another mans fertilizer I think Titchmarsh once said. Let there be roses where there once was pong.
In actual fact, it doesn't sound like you are grasping what I am trying to say at all. I must assume some responsibility of course since I am the one trying to put forth a point but I think it was clear enough and, with certainty that neither of us care very much, I don't see much value in flogging this horse much further.
Its nothing to do with how much acceleration potential the 918 has. Infact I am sure that the 918, just like the veyron could pull much more sustained acceleration G given appropriate rubber. It would be interesting to put it onto slicks with updated software to allow for the higher grip levels these tyres maintain and see how close to the 1.6G+ potential of the tyre it could get.
The nub of the issue is that in order to achieve the car and driver time of 2.2 seconds the 918 has to accelerate with a sustained G of 1.24G. This means that the tyre has to maintain grip at a sustained level of 1.24G. To achieve this would require the tyre to perform at a level higher than the expected performance level of current street tyres.
What adds to the interest is that all other published times that I have seen, including the ones from Porsche (both original and post update) require tyre performance at levels that very match expectations of tyre performance. The fastest at 2.5 seconds requires 1.09G of sustained acceleration. An incredible feat with out a doubt but not a feat that raises any questions.
Do you understand what I am getting at.
understand all of the above, but you have to take into account the way in which the 918 puts its power down across all 4 wheels, depending on the grip, even if the left side has more grip than the right it will apply more power and torque to the side that has the most grip...In actual fact, it doesn't sound like you are grasping what I am trying to say at all. I must assume some responsibility of course since I am the one trying to put forth a point but I think it was clear enough and, with certainty that neither of us care very much, I don't see much value in flogging this horse much further.
Its nothing to do with how much acceleration potential the 918 has. Infact I am sure that the 918, just like the veyron could pull much more sustained acceleration G given appropriate rubber. It would be interesting to put it onto slicks with updated software to allow for the higher grip levels these tyres maintain and see how close to the 1.6G+ potential of the tyre it could get.
The nub of the issue is that in order to achieve the car and driver time of 2.2 seconds the 918 has to accelerate with a sustained G of 1.24G. This means that the tyre has to maintain grip at a sustained level of 1.24G. To achieve this would require the tyre to perform at a level higher than the expected performance level of current street tyres.
What adds to the interest is that all other published times that I have seen, including the ones from Porsche (both original and post update) require tyre performance at levels that very match expectations of tyre performance. The fastest at 2.5 seconds requires 1.09G of sustained acceleration. An incredible feat with out a doubt but not a feat that raises any questions.
Do you understand what I am getting at.
Why do you doubt the CD figs?....I know of another test that is about to come out with the WZ pack car, that did a one way run of 2.0 and then 2.1 and a 2.2.......
fioran0 said:
One mans crap is another mans fertilizer I think Titchmarsh once said. Let there be roses where there once was pong.
In actual fact, it doesn't sound like you are grasping what I am trying to say at all. I must assume some responsibility of course since I am the one trying to put forth a point but I think it was clear enough and, with certainty that neither of us care very much, I don't see much value in flogging this horse much further.
Its nothing to do with how much acceleration potential the 918 has. Infact I am sure that the 918, just like the veyron could pull much more sustained acceleration G given appropriate rubber. It would be interesting to put it onto slicks with updated software to allow for the higher grip levels these tyres maintain and see how close to the 1.6G+ potential of the tyre it could get.
The nub of the issue is that in order to achieve the car and driver time of 2.2 seconds the 918 has to accelerate with a sustained G of 1.24G. This means that the tyre has to maintain grip at a sustained level of 1.24G. To achieve this would require the tyre to perform at a level higher than the expected performance level of current street tyres.
What adds to the interest is that all other published times that I have seen, including the ones from Porsche (both original and post update) require tyre performance at levels that very match expectations of tyre performance. The fastest at 2.5 seconds requires 1.09G of sustained acceleration. An incredible feat with out a doubt but not a feat that raises any questions.
Do you understand what I am getting at.
Yes, and thank you. I fully understand that with out the improvement in tyre tech over recent years, it does not matter how much power a car has or how clever the systems are. If it can not find grip...In actual fact, it doesn't sound like you are grasping what I am trying to say at all. I must assume some responsibility of course since I am the one trying to put forth a point but I think it was clear enough and, with certainty that neither of us care very much, I don't see much value in flogging this horse much further.
Its nothing to do with how much acceleration potential the 918 has. Infact I am sure that the 918, just like the veyron could pull much more sustained acceleration G given appropriate rubber. It would be interesting to put it onto slicks with updated software to allow for the higher grip levels these tyres maintain and see how close to the 1.6G+ potential of the tyre it could get.
The nub of the issue is that in order to achieve the car and driver time of 2.2 seconds the 918 has to accelerate with a sustained G of 1.24G. This means that the tyre has to maintain grip at a sustained level of 1.24G. To achieve this would require the tyre to perform at a level higher than the expected performance level of current street tyres.
What adds to the interest is that all other published times that I have seen, including the ones from Porsche (both original and post update) require tyre performance at levels that very match expectations of tyre performance. The fastest at 2.5 seconds requires 1.09G of sustained acceleration. An incredible feat with out a doubt but not a feat that raises any questions.
Do you understand what I am getting at.
Also for me, I don't see these 0-60 times a true level of acceleration, I find the 49-75 in 1.1 secs , 60-124 in 4.7....intresting
Edited by APOLO1 on Monday 21st July 08:08
isaldiri said:
You aren't really trying to understand what fioran0 has wrote are you and simply repeating your 2.2 as the uncontestable truth (and i thought you didn't care for magazine reviews gt3 car of the year vote apart....) He is saying the tyres are the limiting factor and no matter what electric motor optimisation has happened, it cannot do more than the tyres.
To repeat his other point, sure car and driver might have achieved a 2.2 but no other magazine test has achieved anything like it which suggest car and driver is an anomaly, probably on the roll out used.
Respectfully I do understand his point. I think that you will find a few more reviews coming out in the 2.2 range....To repeat his other point, sure car and driver might have achieved a 2.2 but no other magazine test has achieved anything like it which suggest car and driver is an anomaly, probably on the roll out used.
I spoke to Will Stone himself today about this car...
http://www.willstonecars.com/porscheGT3-2004.html
And guess the asking price......
£250k!!!!....
Will appreciates they'll be lucky to get this.....
http://www.willstonecars.com/porscheGT3-2004.html
And guess the asking price......
£250k!!!!....
Will appreciates they'll be lucky to get this.....
screwloose said:
I spoke to Will Stone himself today about this car...
http://www.willstonecars.com/porscheGT3-2004.html
And guess the asking price......
£250k!!!!....
Will appreciates they'll be lucky to get this.....
As with all these, this then sets the bar for the next one...Low Miles 4.0RS coming on next month at 500K..Priced for Export...http://www.willstonecars.com/porscheGT3-2004.html
And guess the asking price......
£250k!!!!....
Will appreciates they'll be lucky to get this.....
How sad is this,the 2.8 rsr was nice.
early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?102453-Fire-totals-Speedster-RS-RSR
early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?102453-Fire-totals-Speedster-RS-RSR
Edited by Yellow491 on Monday 21st July 19:44
keep it lit said:
agtlaw said:
Malton has one coming into stock very soon. 30k miles. I'd expect it to be six figures.
SCoM are showing two this evening for sale !?Get it inspected by another specialist pre purchase would be my advice
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