96rs for sale...
Discussion
LaSource said:
APOLO1 said:
Steve Rance said:
I sincerely hope thst you are right. My point is that the 996RS and the 996 Cup were very close mechanically. The 991RS may well be track focused but i'd be very surprised it will be as close to the 991 Cup.
I think it will be Steve,A lot of the high tech materials used on the 918 are on this car, ie. forged carbon, super light alloy, magnesium...they want to go out with a bang on this..
i.e. when the 996 RS was a £60k car more people felt comfortable using it aggressively...this may reduce (and already has) as values increase
If the 991RS is say a £160k car OTR and then trades for say £40k overs....then as a £200k car there may be less on track (unlesd everyone who manages to get their hamds on one can also afford/has appetite to use as intended)
We are at this track/price point on the 991GT3 now, on the basis that if you bend it, may be hard to soon replace....
APOLO1 said:
I think it will be Steve,
A lot of the high tech materials used on the 918 are on this car, ie. forged carbon, super light alloy, magnesium...they want to go out with a bang on this..
It might be tricked up and have bits off the 918 but it won't be as close to the cup car as the 996 RS was because they won't have the same engine this time. Unless the are going to slip a Metzger lump into the back.A lot of the high tech materials used on the 918 are on this car, ie. forged carbon, super light alloy, magnesium...they want to go out with a bang on this..
I'm sure it will be a quick car but that's not the point Steve seemed to be making.
V12DRC said:
Sexual Chocolate said:
Might be mine in 30 mins 
If the chap that was interested in my GT2 was serious.
Edit.
Has it been in a serious shunt?
Remember you do nothing without agreeing that the car gets an independent inspection especially given its not coming from a recongised gt3 Indi. This is a MUST with these cars If the chap that was interested in my GT2 was serious.Edit.
Has it been in a serious shunt?
Get JZM to do the inspection you know you are safe that way
V12DRC said:
Sexual Chocolate said:
Do you think 120 is over the odds?
Sexual CHocolate u have PM
Pip
Ps I have not finished reading all the posts yet.
pete a said:
It might be tricked up and have bits off the 918 but it won't be as close to the cup car as the 996 RS was because they won't have the same engine this time. Unless the are going to slip a Metzger lump into the back.
I'm sure it will be a quick car but that's not the point Steve seemed to be making.
I agree that the Lump will not have FULL race heritage. But some options are interesting...I'm sure it will be a quick car but that's not the point Steve seemed to be making.
APOLO1 said:
I think it will be Steve,
A lot of the high tech materials used on the 918 are on this car, ie. forged carbon, super light alloy, magnesium...they want to go out with a bang on this..
That sounds great. But again my point is that although it may include lots of fantastic bits from the motorsports parts bin, it wont resemble any particular car - ie the 991 Cup. A lot of the high tech materials used on the 918 are on this car, ie. forged carbon, super light alloy, magnesium...they want to go out with a bang on this..
Again, my point is that the 6RS was essentially a road leagal version of a 6 Cup. A line where road and race car design almost met
Steve Rance said:
That sounds great. But again my point is that although it may include lots of fantastic bits from the motorsports parts bin, it wont resemble any particular car - ie the 991 Cup.
Again, my point is that the 6RS was essentially a road leagal version of a 6 Cup. A line where road and race car design almost met
a few months back, I had no interest in this car, my only time with this car is one that I owned a long time ago, which was not a nice car to drive.Again, my point is that the 6RS was essentially a road leagal version of a 6 Cup. A line where road and race car design almost met
On the basis of what I now understand about this car, and in my view "cream" will always rise to the top, I am about to make an offer on what is acknowledged to be one of, if not the best 6RS out there.....
APOLO1 said:
Steve Rance said:
That sounds great. But again my point is that although it may include lots of fantastic bits from the motorsports parts bin, it wont resemble any particular car - ie the 991 Cup.
Again, my point is that the 6RS was essentially a road leagal version of a 6 Cup. A line where road and race car design almost met
a few months back, I had no interest in this car, my only time with this car is one that I owned a long time ago, which was not a nice car to drive.Again, my point is that the 6RS was essentially a road leagal version of a 6 Cup. A line where road and race car design almost met
On the basis of what I now understand about this car, and in my view "cream" will always rise to the top, I am about to make an offer on what is acknowledged to be one of, if not the best 6RS out there.....
Excellent, but are you only doing it as an 'investment vehicle".
APOLO1 said:
a few months back, I had no interest in this car, my only time with this car is one that I owned a long time ago, which was not a nice car to drive.
On the basis of what I now understand about this car, and in my view "cream" will always rise to the top, I am about to make an offer on what is acknowledged to be one of, if not the best 6RS out there.....
Wow. Given the your initial viewpoint of where your thinking has come from, I have a lot of respect for your openness and thinking journey. On the basis of what I now understand about this car, and in my view "cream" will always rise to the top, I am about to make an offer on what is acknowledged to be one of, if not the best 6RS out there.....
APOLO1 said:
Steve Rance said:
That sounds great. But again my point is that although it may include lots of fantastic bits from the motorsports parts bin, it wont resemble any particular car - ie the 991 Cup.
Again, my point is that the 6RS was essentially a road leagal version of a 6 Cup. A line where road and race car design almost met
a few months back, I had no interest in this car, my only time with this car is one that I owned a long time ago, which was not a nice car to drive.Again, my point is that the 6RS was essentially a road leagal version of a 6 Cup. A line where road and race car design almost met
On the basis of what I now understand about this car, and in my view "cream" will always rise to the top, I am about to make an offer on what is acknowledged to be one of, if not the best 6RS out there.....
Excellent, but are you only doing it as an 'investment vehicle".
Whether it's one of the finest or whether it's a used example my opinion is the value of either car will be about equal as they become more and more sought after the value will rise and if you want one and one becomes available it's price will be whatever it is regardless whether it's got 5,000 miles or 50,000 miles, Blue or Red, A/C or not or a Full Service history or Over Revs Blah Blah Blah.....they'll go pretty much along the lines of the 2.7RS they are priced at whatever the current value is whether it's been around the clock or not Restored or not got a full service history Etc. if you want one and one becomes available buy it as you may well be waiting a long long time for one that meets your market driven expectations whilst I'll be driving my no A/c'd 35K mile Shed about.....Happy days
Mermaid said:
Man on the internet (Steve) has convinced you.
Excellent, but are you only doing it as an 'investment vehicle".
No Steve, brought to my attention. I know a few owner's..no this will be a bit of both, I track all my cars, its the only way without risking ones licence, that you can find out what the car is all about.Excellent, but are you only doing it as an 'investment vehicle".
As for investment, no deprecation was more on my mind.. some of the others do seem at the top of the curve from a price point. Even if the 6RS is half a 4.0, it still has some way to go....
APOLO1 said:
a few months back, I had no interest in this car, my only time with this car is one that I owned a long time ago, which was not a nice car to drive.
On the basis of what I now understand about this car, and in my view "cream" will always rise to the top, I am about to make an offer on what is acknowledged to be one of, if not the best 6RS out there.....
Sincerely hope that you enjoy it.On the basis of what I now understand about this car, and in my view "cream" will always rise to the top, I am about to make an offer on what is acknowledged to be one of, if not the best 6RS out there.....
If you need any set up tips, feel free to email me privately
APOLO1 said:
No Steve, brought to my attention. I know a few owner's..no this will be a bit of both, I track all my cars, its the only way without risking ones licence, that you can find out what the car is all about.
As for investment, no deprecation was more on my mind.. some of the others do seem at the top of the curve from a price point. Even if the 6RS is half a 4.0, it still has some way to go....
Good news, wish you well in acquiring the car and look forward to your updates.As for investment, no deprecation was more on my mind.. some of the others do seem at the top of the curve from a price point. Even if the 6RS is half a 4.0, it still has some way to go....
APOLO1 said:
a few months back, I had no interest in this car, my only time with this car is one that I owned a long time ago, which was not a nice car to drive.
On the basis of what I now understand about this car, and in my view "cream" will always rise to the top, I am about to make an offer on what is acknowledged to be one of, if not the best 6RS out there.....
The LHD 1000 miles car?On the basis of what I now understand about this car, and in my view "cream" will always rise to the top, I am about to make an offer on what is acknowledged to be one of, if not the best 6RS out there.....
Yellow491 said:
Well done apolo,what a turn around,so you do like dogs.
Steve if any car was a close race car/ road car it was the 993 rscs ,almost identical to the cup,very small changes.
Agreed. My caviat was 'GT racing car'. Although the 993RSCS is close to the Cup. The 996 Cup was a huge leap forward as a GT racing car and the 6RS reflected that leap. Steve if any car was a close race car/ road car it was the 993 rscs ,almost identical to the cup,very small changes.
As I said, my 993CS feels far more like a road car in it's behaviour even though its on supercup suspension and fully rose jointed!
Apolo I must admit I am pretty astonished at your U turn on this..When you present your facts and opinions often with great authority and from which you are subsequently questioned on what you know, you can then get a bit p1ssy with people..it just makes it hard to understand or dare I say believe what you write...just a small selection on what you have said about this car previously..
1.f the 6RS was going to do anything price wise, it would have done so before now, I have sold 4, 4.0s, 3 to collectors', whilst the 993RS is gaining traction, there is no interest from a colleting point in the 6RS.......none at all....
2.at what price..? I know the largest P collator's in Asia....when I mention the 6RS they laugh..
3.but nothing like the one before it or after.....because its a dog....
4.drive on out of the box, its an absolute dog to drive, you can always spend 20k on suspension though...
5..like I said there is good reason for this, in fact, its hard to find any P car, pre the 993 that has not gone up.....but not the 6RS, and neither will it, if it can not go up in this market, when will it...?
6.so glad I never kept mine,....my view is in line with the market.........that's all that counts.
7.That's my point, exactly..I do not want to spend 20k or what ever to make a car as it should have been out of the box, I have explained to a few on here, what the problem is with the 6RS.....and it ant my view either..........
The 6RS missed the target, ok I have no doubt that it can be made into good track day car, but 99% of RS owners do not race for a living, if we did, then I am sure we would have brought, ex cup cars, challenge cars etc, and saved a few bob in the process..
no good on the road, not quite a Cup car..etc......
8.I know to a 26k mile car with over 20k spent over the years on upgrades to make perfect,100k would own it. Just does not do it for me...sorry...(yesterday)
It just seems a bit like going from being a born again Christian to an atheist in one day...
1.f the 6RS was going to do anything price wise, it would have done so before now, I have sold 4, 4.0s, 3 to collectors', whilst the 993RS is gaining traction, there is no interest from a colleting point in the 6RS.......none at all....
2.at what price..? I know the largest P collator's in Asia....when I mention the 6RS they laugh..
3.but nothing like the one before it or after.....because its a dog....
4.drive on out of the box, its an absolute dog to drive, you can always spend 20k on suspension though...
5..like I said there is good reason for this, in fact, its hard to find any P car, pre the 993 that has not gone up.....but not the 6RS, and neither will it, if it can not go up in this market, when will it...?
6.so glad I never kept mine,....my view is in line with the market.........that's all that counts.
7.That's my point, exactly..I do not want to spend 20k or what ever to make a car as it should have been out of the box, I have explained to a few on here, what the problem is with the 6RS.....and it ant my view either..........
The 6RS missed the target, ok I have no doubt that it can be made into good track day car, but 99% of RS owners do not race for a living, if we did, then I am sure we would have brought, ex cup cars, challenge cars etc, and saved a few bob in the process..
no good on the road, not quite a Cup car..etc......
8.I know to a 26k mile car with over 20k spent over the years on upgrades to make perfect,100k would own it. Just does not do it for me...sorry...(yesterday)
It just seems a bit like going from being a born again Christian to an atheist in one day...
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