Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2
Discussion
jon- said:
ttdan said:
Was running cup 2 last week at DN13 on the e46M3, quite a bit of camber (3.5 front, 2.5 rear) and i thought they were great. They did start to go off a tiny bit about half way into the second lap which is about 12 to 13 mins of fairly hard driving but for £159 a corner in BM sizes im not complaining in the slightest. Very progressive too.
Whos tried the Dunlop Direzza? Have heard some great things about these but the range is a little confusing so not sure what their "road legal" track tyre actually is.
The Cup 2 was benchmarked against the SportMaxx Race during development: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Dunlop/SportMaxx...Whos tried the Dunlop Direzza? Have heard some great things about these but the range is a little confusing so not sure what their "road legal" track tyre actually is.
braddo said:
How are people finding the Cup 2 on the road in autumn, with greasy/leafy roads?
Fine at road legal speeds, but it does depend on your geo. If you are set up for track friendliness you will get understeer anywhere that you can't get enough heat into them (cold, wet circuits and all roads). The general consensus is that you need to reduce front camber to something more like stock or soften off the bars if you don't want to drive around that. In my experience it is cold rather than wet that will make you want to slap your winter wheels on though - when it gets down to single digit temperatures they really don't bite into the tarmac too well.Edited by DiscoColin on Thursday 12th November 21:28
nigelonich said:
I was looking online for 996 gt3 mk2 sizes for cup 2. I could only find National Tyres had them?
Any suggestions for them in 295 30 18?
Cheers
N.
Look at online retialiers such as event tyres...even if website says no, call them directly. Managed to source me a set fairly quickly earlier this year.Any suggestions for them in 295 30 18?
Cheers
N.
nigelonich said:
I was looking online for 996 gt3 mk2 sizes for cup 2. I could only find National Tyres had them?
Any suggestions for them in 295 30 18?
Cheers
N.
http://lovetyres.com/tyre/Michelin-Pilot-Sport-Cup...Any suggestions for them in 295 30 18?
Cheers
N.
Edited by jon- on Thursday 19th November 11:49
nigelonich said:
Thanks again. Im still stunned at the cheapness of Cup's v Cup 2's
Best I can get Cup 2's 295 30 18 is £250 each but the same tyre in Cup is £143 from Openeo.
So Cup rears are cheaper than cup 2 fronts!
The difference in wear performance means that on a tyre life basis the Cup 2 is still cheaper to run on though - even with the price difference.Best I can get Cup 2's 295 30 18 is £250 each but the same tyre in Cup is £143 from Openeo.
So Cup rears are cheaper than cup 2 fronts!
DiscoColin said:
nigelonich said:
Thanks again. Im still stunned at the cheapness of Cup's v Cup 2's
Best I can get Cup 2's 295 30 18 is £250 each but the same tyre in Cup is £143 from Openeo.
So Cup rears are cheaper than cup 2 fronts!
The difference in wear performance means that on a tyre life basis the Cup 2 is still cheaper to run on though - even with the price difference.Best I can get Cup 2's 295 30 18 is £250 each but the same tyre in Cup is £143 from Openeo.
So Cup rears are cheaper than cup 2 fronts!
DiscoColin said:
nigelonich said:
Thanks again. Im still stunned at the cheapness of Cup's v Cup 2's
Best I can get Cup 2's 295 30 18 is £250 each but the same tyre in Cup is £143 from Openeo.
So Cup rears are cheaper than cup 2 fronts!
The difference in wear performance means that on a tyre life basis the Cup 2 is still cheaper to run on though - even with the price difference.Best I can get Cup 2's 295 30 18 is £250 each but the same tyre in Cup is £143 from Openeo.
So Cup rears are cheaper than cup 2 fronts!
nigelonich said:
I have ran Cup 2's on my R26R at the ring this year. All good hence why I am buying more. The PS3's lasted two laps!
Did you do any days on them sub 10 degrees C and damp? This is what I am trying to get to the bottom of because if they work OK in such conditions they will be going on my R26 as general use and occasional track days when the PS2s wear out.NJH said:
nigelonich said:
I have ran Cup 2's on my R26R at the ring this year. All good hence why I am buying more. The PS3's lasted two laps!
Did you do any days on them sub 10 degrees C and damp? This is what I am trying to get to the bottom of because if they work OK in such conditions they will be going on my R26 as general use and occasional track days when the PS2s wear out.Obviously though - if you end up on snow everything gets much worse and it all gets a bit hovercraft. That really focusses your attention, calling for plenty of caution.
Oulton Park at last years RS day was about 7 degrees, mostly dry, under 2 mins without being a hero, I thought they were great. Colder than that not sure but we had a zero degree day at the ring in '14, very cold but very dry on cup 1's and grip was astounding. Think moisture makes more difference than ambient temp personally as if it's dry you can still work the tyre to get some heat in there.
Oulton Park at last years RS day was about 7 degrees, mostly dry, under 2 mins without being a hero, I thought they were great. Colder than that not sure but we had a zero degree day at the ring in '14, very cold but very dry on cup 1's and grip was astounding. Think moisture makes more difference than ambient temp personally as if it's dry you can still work the tyre to get some heat in there.
ttdan said:
Oulton Park at last years RS day was about 7 degrees, mostly dry, under 2 mins without being a hero, I thought they were great. Colder than that not sure but we had a zero degree day at the ring in '14, very cold but very dry on cup 1's and grip was astounding. Think moisture makes more difference than ambient temp personally as if it's dry you can still work the tyre to get some heat in there.
Wow...time machine double post I'm at Silverstone Sunday - let's hope it stays above 7 deg and somewhat dry(!)
DiscoColin said:
NJH said:
nigelonich said:
I have ran Cup 2's on my R26R at the ring this year. All good hence why I am buying more. The PS3's lasted two laps!
Did you do any days on them sub 10 degrees C and damp? This is what I am trying to get to the bottom of because if they work OK in such conditions they will be going on my R26 as general use and occasional track days when the PS2s wear out.Obviously though - if you end up on snow everything gets much worse and it all gets a bit hovercraft. That really focusses your attention, calling for plenty of caution.
It does seem from the various responses that the Cup 2s are OK in these conditions on cars not running aggressive camber for maximum dry weather performance.
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