New GTS marks end of the 991?

New GTS marks end of the 991?

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berty37

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Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Guys apologies if this has been covered somewhere else but GT spirit running a story that the new GTS debuting end of the year in LA will mark the end of the 991 platform and start of the 992... Any thoughts or more insight?

http://www.gtspirit.com/2014/08/25/porsche-911-gt3...


spyderman8

1,748 posts

155 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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berty37 said:
Any thoughts or more insight?
Yes. Tosh.

drmark

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185 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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drmark said:
If it is as well tweaked as the last version it could be a tempting alternative to the GT3 for those of us who can't get / afford one. Likely to be easier to live with too.
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drmark

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185 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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drmark said:
If it is as well tweaked as the last version it could be a tempting alternative to the GT3 for those of us who can't get / afford one. Likely to be easier to live with too.
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berty37

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Tuesday 26th August 2014
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spyderman8 said:
berty37 said:
Any thoughts or more insight?
Yes. Tosh.
What the article is baseless?

mollytherocker

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208 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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berty37 said:
Guys apologies if this has been covered somewhere else but GT spirit running a story that the new GTS debuting end of the year in LA will mark the end of the 991 platform and start of the 992... Any thoughts or more insight?

http://www.gtspirit.com/2014/08/25/porsche-911-gt3...
More likely the end of the 991.1. The 991.2 is released in 2015?

The 992 will probably be around 2018?

berty37

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Tuesday 26th August 2014
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mollytherocker said:
More likely the end of the 991.1. The 991.2 is released in 2015?

The 992 will probably be around 2018?
That's exactly what I thought MTR but article suggesting it will be called the 992 not the 991.2. Would seem fairly quick considering 996 and 997 were both around for what 6/7 years in their gen1 and gen2 guises or facelifts...spy shots not always the best things to go by but does look VERY similar to 991..

spyderman8

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155 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Even if they switch entirely to turbocharged engines, I can't see any reason to jump to a new model number - after all they brought the new DFi engine to the 987.2 Boxster and Cayman.

ORD

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126 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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I doubt very much that Porsche will move to all tc 911 in the next year or two! Perhaps by 2018, but I expect that they will want to keep some NA cars for quite a while, especially as a lot of people wont take seriously a Porsche with a turbo 4 pot.

Scott Parker

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Goofnik

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Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Scott Parker said:
Car looks rather afraid of something when you look at it from the front.

Carl_Docklands

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261 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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well, this is promising. it looks like they have done something with the rear tail-lights, 918 units perhaps ? smile



blueSL

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Thursday 28th August 2014
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You do wonder how they intend to implement any form of charge cooler without an obvious air intake. That what the vents behind the doors in a 911 turbo do - the ducting goes up over the rear wheels, down through the heat exchanger and out.

Easy in the Panamera and Cayenne, it's just another radiator in the front but in a rear-engined car it's difficult to know unless that view through the engine hatch gives us a clue.

chriscoates81

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131 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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blueSL said:
You do wonder how they intend to implement any form of charge cooler without an obvious air intake. That what the vents behind the doors in a 911 turbo do - the ducting goes up over the rear wheels, down through the heat exchanger and out.

Easy in the Panamera and Cayenne, it's just another radiator in the front but in a rear-engined car it's difficult to know unless that view through the engine hatch gives us a clue.
It would have to look like the turbo cars with those vents, unless going for 1 big turbocharger.

blueSL

610 posts

225 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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We could also have the same silly naming convention from the Macan that the Macan turbo is the highest performing variant, conveniently forgetting that the humble S and even the gasping oil burner have turbos too. So the use of the word "turbo" which has always meant high performance will be diluted.

They've never done another rear or mid-engine production turbo before so it will be interesting to see how they do it though of course in the early 911 turbos, the intercooler was in the tea-tray.

Maybe they will differentiate the "real" turbo from the cooking cars by bothering to paint the ducts instead of leaving them looking like cheap guttering.

Carl_Docklands

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261 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Taped over central radiator space suggests something new going on at the front for cooling.

I would imagine the new 50th anniversary type rear decklid has new air intakes or cooler underneath it.

Also, there appears to be tape and or photo correction between the rear wheel arch and roof. Possibly covering a 993 turbo style side air intake.



Edited by Carl_Docklands on Thursday 28th August 08:53

willisit

2,141 posts

230 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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I remember reading that the 991 platform would be around until the mid 2020s. Perhaps that isn't the case now - I'm sure they can change their minds. Anyone else read that?

GrahamPM

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230 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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With the Targa only just being released and the issues with the GT3 delaying an RS version, surely a Gen 2 version won't appear until much later in 2015; this would allow a years worth of GTS money spinning production next year.
I also thought 991 came out Sept 11, so 4 year life cycle......
Graham.

Carl_Docklands

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261 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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GrahamPM said:
With the Targa only just being released and the issues with the GT3 delaying an RS version, surely a Gen 2 version won't appear until much later in 2015; this would allow a years worth of GTS money spinning production next year.
I also thought 991 came out Sept 11, so 4 year life cycle......
Graham.
Maybe it's been triggered by the impending competition from Mclaren and others. According to how many left the 991 sales numbers don't look stellar and outside the initial group of owners on here, the number of people posting up pictures of their new 991 lately (gt3 aside) is minimal.