How often do you use the sport button?

How often do you use the sport button?

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SkinnyP

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1,419 posts

149 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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I find the throttle response of my 987 3.4 DFI Cayman a little mediocre although I suppose it’s a balance for every day driving, I also wish PSM allowed some slip.

So my question to you is how often do you use the sport button it and is it worth the £620 retrofit cost? (£400 software license, £100 button, the rest is labour)

I’ve driven a 981 and found the sport button did exactly what I wanted, a sharper driver and some shallow skids but nothing too hairy. I suppose I have answered my own question, I’m just struggling to justify the cost.

Yes I could turn PSM off but to be honest I’ve tried that...unfortunately when these cars let go they let go! In comparison I didn’t realise how much harder they are to slide compared to a front engine car with a long wheel base boxedin

Maybe I just need more practice smile

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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For me the Sport button is a little psychological in my 997; once you turn it off the dulled throttle response makes the car feel slow! But then we you get used to driving in 'normal' mode, it fades away.

When i get in the car i switch on the PSE, put the PDK across to manual and turn off the TC. I rarely use the Sport mode.

cervezaman

311 posts

141 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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On my Boxster 981 it's the first thing I do - especially as it deactivates the stop/start!

Koln-RS

3,862 posts

212 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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I drove a 997 Turbo 'S' last year. Blisteringly fast, but you need to press 'Sport' to get the full experience. There's also 'Sport Plus', but that's so violent it's frightening.

This year I drove a 991 C4'S' - which I actually thought was a much better car - but you still need to press 'Sport' to get it excited. 'Sport Plus' was a lot less violent than the Turbo, but very impressive for a fast overtake.

Prefer it if 'Sport' was a thumb operated button on the steering wheel.

blueSL

614 posts

226 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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I use Sport mode all the time. Normal mode is all about maximising economy and it's just getting worse.

I test drove a 991 turbo S at a Porsche driving event at Milbrook last December, hated it in normal mode and the idiot minder to my left refused to let me put it in Sport mode so I never really got to see what the car is capable of.

Sport Plus is, for me, a step too far on normal roads.

lingus75

1,695 posts

222 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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My 997.1 turbo button gets pressed as soon as the car is warned up. I don't get to drive it often, so it's still an event on full boost.

It not just the boost though, the car response feels sharper everywhere which I like.

The sport plus feels 'violent', is that because the shifts bang home with a thud, or that it gives more power?

Alf Essex

1,467 posts

261 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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I have a 997 Turbo S Cab and use sports plus all the time...only drive it a few times a week, so want the full experiance smile

bing

1,905 posts

238 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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lingus75 said:
My 997.1 turbo button gets pressed as soon as the car is warned up. I don't get to drive it often, so it's still an event on full boost.

It not just the boost though, the car response feels sharper everywhere which I like.

The sport plus feels 'violent', is that because the shifts bang home with a thud, or that it gives more power?
This ^^^ in my 997TT or when I have a fully loaded car

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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I use the Sport button most days in the 997. However, in the 981 loaners I've had I drive around in Sport all the time.

SkinnyP

Original Poster:

1,419 posts

149 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Thanks for the replies so far.

I should add, my car is a manual.

As an extension of my original question, to those that use it to you think its worth £620?

Trev450

6,320 posts

172 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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IMO no, unless you plan on doing a lot of track work. My CS has it but also has PASM and PSE so one press of the button completly transforms the car.

Asterix

24,438 posts

228 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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My standard start up routine is get in, belt up, clutch in, check neutral, start the engine, hit the sport button, put PASM back to standard, turn on lights (in Dubai so I want to make a little silver car as visible as possible), set the AC to 'Low' with face vents only, drive off.

I always drive with Sport. I don't like the standard throttle map.

Durzel

12,262 posts

168 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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hondansx said:
For me the Sport button is a little psychological in my 997; once you turn it off the dulled throttle response makes the car feel slow! But then we you get used to driving in 'normal' mode, it fades away.

When i get in the car i switch on the PSE, put the PDK across to manual and turn off the TC. I rarely use the Sport mode.
That's it exactly really, Porsche even say that it doesn't increase power. From my experience in a PSE/Sport equipped Cayman S the throttle definitely felt more responsive in Sport mode, and of course the PSE elevates the whole aural experience. Louder/more growl seems faster somehow. As hondansx said once you're used to how it feels in Sport - normal feels pedestrian somehow?

Worth noting also that the retrofit also unlocks some personalisation options on PCM, so it's not all smoke and mirrors.

Adam B

27,227 posts

254 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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997.1 turbo:

ignition on
sport on
PASM back to normal

but then sport button gives an extra 50lb/ft on overboost

annoying that sport button turns PASM to sport too

Edited by Adam B on Wednesday 1st October 00:50

SkinnyP

Original Poster:

1,419 posts

149 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Do you ever turn sport off when on the motorway or in town, can it be overly sensitive?

bensimmons

76 posts

173 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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i retro fitted sport shopped around and got the code from OPC at adsicount and got an indi to load it for me. about £520 that way manual 997.2 C4S cab. I drove the car in normal mode for a few weeks but didnt really like it compared to my previous cars that had sport - so i upgraded without the dash wart.

std op procedure: Start, sport off with PASM on with the PSE.

You will find it takes a little longer for the traction control to kick in so you can safely get it a bit sideways on the round about - esp if a C2S. You have to push the C4S much harder to get the back to step out.

Worth the money in my opinion and much much better for track days if thats your thing. Should help you sell it after too. Sport Chrono vehicles always more attractive.

Trev450

6,320 posts

172 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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SkinnyP said:
Do you ever turn sport off when on the motorway or in town, can it be overly sensitive?
No its not at all overly sensitive. In fact it actually feels better than the standard throttle map.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Trev450 said:
No its not at all overly sensitive. In fact it actually feels better than the standard throttle map.
this, unlike Audi which is stupid when on, Porsche Sports mode is how a car should be, I have it on 100% of the time and norm PSM off .
Car feels a bit dead to me Sports mode off.

SkinnyP

Original Poster:

1,419 posts

149 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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I think you gents have just cost me 600-odd quid, or maybe just over 500 if I can get the discount. Bugger! hehe

Cheers ya'll.

SkinnyP

Original Poster:

1,419 posts

149 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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One last thing, do we know how much extra slip sport mode allows? I've read conflicting answers, 10% up to 50%.