Ferrari Autocars drivers car of the year.

[mrdemon]

Driven it, loved it, any one got £250k they can lend me.

[Alpinestars]

Overrated?

[ferdi p]

Didn't know it came in a manual

[mrdemon]

ferdi p said:

Didn't know it came in a manual

That's a very good point and the GT3 comes under that banner now

Does an auto deserve to be drivers car of the year ?

Or have the mags forgot about manual, EVO keep trying Manual Cayman and boxster and love them.
Even the R8 V10 plus car is manual on the EVO fleet.

I cannot see a auto being called a true drivers car.

[WCZ]

mrdemon said:

Driven it, loved it

it really is a sensational car to drive isn't it

[mrdemon]

It's my Fav car atm, it's so sharp and direct to drive.
what's not to love.

[Callughan]

Apart from merchandising Ferrari have raised their game imo, where as Porsche has lost focus to a degree.

[IMI A]

Callughan said:

Apart from merchandising Ferrari have raised their game imo, where as Porsche has lost focus to a degree.

yep

[jackal]

One thing to bear in mind is compare apples to apples.

Porsche still have their RS hand to play and thats the car that should be driven back to back with a speciale (at almost half the price too). The vanilla 991 GT3 is fairly mainstream and approachable now, a straight 458 rival.

[ferdi p]

Ferrari are a maker of supercars & want to produce less cars at a higher price.

Porsche are a maker of sports cars & 4x4's & want to make as many as they can sell.

The fact that Porsche produce a car that can mix it with a 250k Ferrari is outstanding.

[ferdi p]

anonymous said:

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Fair point but I think you know what I was getting at...

[mrdemon]

looking at the laps times it smashed the 991 GT3 also
and powers away on the straights

unlike what the GT3 boys say on their thread where the GT3 is said to pull away over the 458S....

[Sandy59]

mrdemon said:

It's my Fav car atm, it's so sharp and direct to drive.
what's not to love.

Flappy paddles ??

Seriously, how did you get on without a clutch, did it detract from the experience like it supposedly does in a Spyder for example ??

[Sandy59]

mrdemon said:

It's my Fav car atm, it's so sharp and direct to drive.
what's not to love.

Flappy paddles ??

Seriously, how did you get on without a clutch, did it detract from the experience like it supposedly does in a Spyder for example ??

[Alpinestars]

mrdemon said:

looking at the laps times it smashed the 991 GT3 also
and powers away on the straights

unlike what the GT3 boys say on their thread where the GT3 is said to pull away over the 458S....

Now this may come across as controversial but it's not meant to be and is only my view on the S.

Not sure what it is with Ferraris but they seem pretty inconsistent one to another. I've seen data and videos where the S spanks other cars. But my experience of it is that it is only marginally quicker than a regular 458 in a straight line and controversially, marginally slower than a Scuderia. I have no experience of it on track.

It also feels too polished a car, I'd even call it anodyne unless you're really on it or being a hooligan with ESP off (when i have to say it is magical within my limited abilities). So most of the time it just does not feel special (excuse the pun). The Scud is the better car in my view. Much more interactive and raw.

The newer cars are ultra competent no doubt, but they've also lost some magic. I've not driven a 991 GT3 but have a horrible feeling that might also fall into the ultra competent camp.

Edited by Alpinestars on Friday 17th October 09:04

[ferdi p]

mrdemon said:

looking at the laps times it smashed the 991 GT3 also
and powers away on the straights

unlike what the GT3 boys say on their thread where the GT3 is said to pull away over the 458S....

I for one would swap my 991GT3 for a 458S in a heartbeat, sod it, ill even add 20k if anyone's interested...

[Robbo66]

Alpinestars said:

Now this may come across as controversial but it's not meant to be and is only my view on the S.

Not sure what it is with Ferraris but they seem pretty inconsistent one to another. I've seen data and videos where the S spanks other cars. But my experience of it is that it is only marginally quicker than a regular 458 in a straight line and controversially, marginally slower than a Scuderia. I have no experience of it on track.

It also feels too polished a car, I'd even call it anodyne unless you're really on it or being a hooligan with ESP off (when i have to say it is magical within my limited abilities). So most of the time it just does not feel special (excuse the pun). The Scud is the better car in my view. Much more interactive and raw.

The newer cars are ultra competent no doubt, but they've also lost some magic. I've not driven a 991 GT3 but have a horrible feeling that might also fall into the ultra competent camp.

Edited by Alpinestars on Friday 17th October 09:04

I thought so too....then I drove it.
There's a few on here that have no driven one, and seem to be an absolute authority on driving experience and future values....mostly negative....
I'm not one to praise a car 'because I bought it'...there's the Aston forum for that.
You simply cannot have subjective, honest and concrete opinion until you have driven one IMO.

[Robbo66]

anonymous said:

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The 'broken record ' ?. Possibly, but have not heard of one, though you obviously have. Obviously.

[Robbo66]

anonymous said:

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Give us a nod when you've driven one....someone may be interested.

[ferdi p]

anonymous said:

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I can...

I know that you will prefer the paddles & once driven you will wonder why you had such silly thoughts that a manual may have actually been better!