Cayman S modifications

Cayman S modifications

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J13ME

Original Poster:

53 posts

121 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Hey guys.

Just got myself a 2006 Cayman S (well, I did then I got shipped of to the Baltic for few weeks so haven't really driven it at all) I'm looking at power upgrades for when I'm back, i come from a supercharged VX220 so speed is certainly down. As is handling!

What's the best bang for buck with the power?

Also, any pics/threads of modded 987's would be cool!

Cheers guys and girls

mrdemon

21,146 posts

264 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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buy this

http://www.softronicsoftware.com/porsche-987-cayma...

buy a cat back exhaust

do a desnork

Have 340BHp :-)

fit PSS tyres and rs 29 pads.

good to go, not track it hard though as the car only has 1 oil pick up, so you will have to look into that for track work, either a bigger sump and prob motorsport air/oil kit.

Magic919

14,126 posts

200 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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And scope the bores.

J13ME

Original Poster:

53 posts

121 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Cheers for that! With the plenum, I see they said it's genuine Porsche? What model? Would rather source the parts myself to save a little cash towards wheels/suspension. Also, I'm a big fan of custom live maps rather than downloaded maps for obvious reasons.

With the desnorkel.. I'm struggling to find a proper guide for it? Any links?

I keep seeing the bore scraping issue mentioned.. What does this do/cause

Thanks

mrdemon

21,146 posts

264 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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996 GT3 part tried and tested with that map, why reinvent the wheel on a 9 year old car.

It works there are 100's of cars with this and it's not that expensive.
if you are going to spend 10k just sell the car and buy a gen 2.

Keep it simple or upgrade the car, wheels and sus is pointless imo the cars don't track well due to oil pick up issue.

PR36

341 posts

115 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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mrdemon said:
buy this

http://www.softronicsoftware.com/porsche-987-cayma...

buy a cat back exhaust

do a desnork

Have 340BHp :-)

fit PSS tyres and rs 29 pads.

good to go, not track it hard though as the car only has 1 oil pick up, so you will have to look into that for track work, either a bigger sump and prob motorsport air/oil kit.
I am in the process of doing all this at the moment (except for desnork), softronic ecu flash, gt3 throttle body, ipd plenum, carnewal gt catback exhaust, rs29 pads aswell as bilstein coil overs and geo. The performance mods are the best mods you can do for the £ beyond which you start spending lots of money for a lot less gain. You will find much more info and less emotive responses re bore scoring etc on the planet 9 forum where the guys in the states are big into modding/tracking their caymans. There is also an interesting thread on there re oiling issues where a chap has actually measured oil pressure on track using an aftermarket sump and third rad with very positive results if thats your thing.

thegoose

8,075 posts

209 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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For serious track work consider fitting an Accusump - one was fitted to the Boxster S I raced for 2 years (the second on slicks) with 100% reliability.

Tonto

2,983 posts

247 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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How do you know speed (by which I assume you meant power) and handling are down when you say you haven't driven it?
I suggest you take the time to get used to the car before modding it.

Trev450

6,314 posts

171 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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thegoose said:
For serious track work consider fitting an Accusump - one was fitted to the Boxster S I raced for 2 years (the second on slicks) with 100% reliability.
No question that this is the way to go especially if you intend using R-spec tyres. A less exspensive alternative is the Autofarm sump extension kit which I use but I'm on road tyres.

http://www.autofarm.co.uk/engines/water_cooled/ext...

thegoose

8,075 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Trev450 said:
thegoose said:
For serious track work consider fitting an Accusump - one was fitted to the Boxster S I raced for 2 years (the second on slicks) with 100% reliability.
No question that this is the way to go especially if you intend using R-spec tyres. A less exspensive alternative is the Autofarm sump extension kit which I use but I'm on road tyres.

http://www.autofarm.co.uk/engines/water_cooled/ext...
We had something like that too I think - all done by Hartech rather than Autofarm - so I'd suggest the Accusump was an additional item not an alternative. smile

Trev450

6,314 posts

171 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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thegoose said:
Trev450 said:
thegoose said:
For serious track work consider fitting an Accusump - one was fitted to the Boxster S I raced for 2 years (the second on slicks) with 100% reliability.
No question that this is the way to go especially if you intend using R-spec tyres. A less exspensive alternative is the Autofarm sump extension kit which I use but I'm on road tyres.

http://www.autofarm.co.uk/engines/water_cooled/ext...
We had something like that too I think - all done by Hartech rather than Autofarm - so I'd suggest the Accusump was an additional item not an alternative. smile
Are you saying the Accusump was added at a later date, otherwise wouldn't it would be a bit pointless having the sump extension kit as well as a dry sump system?

Edited by Trev450 on Tuesday 21st October 12:02

J13ME

Original Poster:

53 posts

121 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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I didn't realise the ones linked were genuine porsche. That's fine will get ordering then.

Speed and handling is down for sure. Not on power, it's 30bhp up.. But it's also 500kg heavier and no low down power at all whereas the VX pulled from nothing. Would laugh at 996/997 turbos so I can't even try to compare it to the Cayman.

I'm not expecting to match it, just give a little more go smile

Thanks for the input guys

spyderman8

1,748 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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I've only encountered oil surge once on my 2004 986 S - at Rockingham. My race 986 has a baffled sump.

Are you certain you're going to feel the 20 or 30hp all these mods will cost? It's *never* going to feel like a supercharged car.

thegoose

8,075 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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spyderman8 said:
I've only encountered oil surge once on my 2004 986 S - at Rockingham. My race 986 has a baffled sump.
Once is too many - how many times do you want to blow your engine? A couple of seconds can be enough.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

264 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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anonymous said:
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I cannot stand doing track days on road tyres, they just melt and it ruins my day which all in always costs cira £600.

As for the mods on the gen one, it's not always about power, the mods do really reduce the dead spot on the gen one, so it's much nicer to drive.
And you def feel the extra grunt.

Trev450

6,314 posts

171 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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anonymous said:
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That was my point. I do a couple of trackdays a year hence fitting the Autofarm sump kit, but given that I'm on road tyres, the degree of surge is less than if I was on R spec so I am prepared to take the chance and not go to the expense of an Accusump.

IknowJoseph

542 posts

139 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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Trev450 said:
thegoose said:
Trev450 said:
thegoose said:
For serious track work consider fitting an Accusump - one was fitted to the Boxster S I raced for 2 years (the second on slicks) with 100% reliability.
No question that this is the way to go especially if you intend using R-spec tyres. A less exspensive alternative is the Autofarm sump extension kit which I use but I'm on road tyres.

http://www.autofarm.co.uk/engines/water_cooled/ext...
We had something like that too I think - all done by Hartech rather than Autofarm - so I'd suggest the Accusump was an additional item not an alternative. smile
Are you saying the Accusump was added at a later date, otherwise wouldn't it would be a bit pointless having the sump extension kit as well as a dry sump system?

Edited by Trev450 on Tuesday 21st October 12:02
As far as I can tell the Accusump isn't a dry sump system - it's just some extra oil in a pressurized container that gets squirted into the engine if oil pressure drops due to cornering Gs. So you'd want the deep (baffled) sump to protect against that oil surge, plus the Accusump to give the engine an extra oil hit if you still suffered problems.

My car is a road car, so no need for Accusump, but I'm probably going to get a deep sump just because extra oil can't be a bad thing.

PR36

341 posts

115 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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Ive done trackdays in my 07 Cayman S inc nurburgring and have no mods at all and had no issues. you can search on planet 9 and guys there have done over 40 track days on the stock car with no issues. Obviously Im not pretending something couldnt happen but personally im not so worried on street tyres. Here is the thread I mentioned above which makes for interesting reading and is based on actual oil pressure readings on track. In conclusion, if i were a regular trackdayer I would buy a sump and i would use the one this guy is using:

http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-boxster-competi...

Trev450

6,314 posts

171 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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anonymous said:
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Sounds like the best option given your circumstances.

Trev450

6,314 posts

171 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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IknowJoseph said:
Trev450 said:
thegoose said:
Trev450 said:
thegoose said:
For serious track work consider fitting an Accusump - one was fitted to the Boxster S I raced for 2 years (the second on slicks) with 100% reliability.
No question that this is the way to go especially if you intend using R-spec tyres. A less exspensive alternative is the Autofarm sump extension kit which I use but I'm on road tyres.

http://www.autofarm.co.uk/engines/water_cooled/ext...
We had something like that too I think - all done by Hartech rather than Autofarm - so I'd suggest the Accusump was an additional item not an alternative. smile
Are you saying the Accusump was added at a later date, otherwise wouldn't it would be a bit pointless having the sump extension kit as well as a dry sump system?

Edited by Trev450 on Tuesday 21st October 12:02
As far as I can tell the Accusump isn't a dry sump system - it's just some extra oil in a pressurized container that gets squirted into the engine if oil pressure drops due to cornering Gs. So you'd want the deep (baffled) sump to protect against that oil surge, plus the Accusump to give the engine an extra oil hit if you still suffered problems.
Interesting. I assumed it was a dry sump system - clearly not.