Prospective 981 GT4 Owners Discussion Forum.
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Scooty100 said:
NA is a possibility but manual I gotta say no chance
They want to race in GT4 class which has regs of 6 gears , PDK is 7 gears.200 cars is a few too many imo they only sold about 110 manual Cayman R's and the same in PDK.
Plus the R is awesome, I doubt the steering will match it.
To only sell 100 manual Cayman R's was a bit low, it was not even limited was it.
the GT4 is gaining more interest though 300bhp/ton puts it at quite a sweet spot
LaurasOtherHalf said:
If the numbers & rumours posted above are correct then you're looking at the second batch of 100 if you're no5 on the list-not sure where the 3 per opc number came from but again, assuming it's correct you're in for a 2016 build.
On the numbers I personally think 200 is a wee but too high for serious over subscription-most cars that are limited & most wanted tend to be under 150 units though I'm no expert
One other point on numbers-the last time cars were commodities when new was just prior to the bubble bursting in the late 80's wasn't it? Take from that what you will...
As for spec, clubsport is a must for me-that's the main thing. Not some heavy folding buckets with airbags built in but a proper nomex, harness bar & electrical cut off. Oh & bright colours, a wide variety of bright colours!
CS id say will be the option of choice especially as rear seats will never be an option therefore folding buckets wont be a consideration.On the numbers I personally think 200 is a wee but too high for serious over subscription-most cars that are limited & most wanted tend to be under 150 units though I'm no expert
One other point on numbers-the last time cars were commodities when new was just prior to the bubble bursting in the late 80's wasn't it? Take from that what you will...
As for spec, clubsport is a must for me-that's the main thing. Not some heavy folding buckets with airbags built in but a proper nomex, harness bar & electrical cut off. Oh & bright colours, a wide variety of bright colours!
Colour to sample will be the usual Porsche options I would imagine as not an RS car but yes fingers crossed lots of bright colours especially white :-)
So if you get a 2016 slot what will Laura's mini be worth in PX ?
Limited production seems to figure really high on a lot of people's priorities...... if the cars like the gen2 RS (both 3.8 and the properly limited 4.0) hadn't shown the sorts of price increases that they had, would interest in this gt4 be still the same for those who have put that as important?
LaurasOtherHalf said:
If the numbers & rumours posted above are correct then you're looking at the second batch of 100 if you're no5 on the list-not sure where the 3 per opc number came from but again, assuming it's correct you're in for a 2016 build.
On the numbers I personally think 200 is a wee but too high for serious over subscription-most cars that are limited & most wanted tend to be under 150 units though I'm no expert
One other point on numbers-the last time cars were commodities when new was just prior to the bubble bursting in the late 80's wasn't it? Take from that what you will...
As for spec, clubsport is a must for me-that's the main thing. Not some heavy folding buckets with airbags built in but a proper nomex, harness bar & electrical cut off. Oh & bright colours, a wide variety of bright colours!
I agree on 200 being too high for comfort. Things are on a bit of a hype, & sometimes guessing what becomes the new hype is exactly that!On the numbers I personally think 200 is a wee but too high for serious over subscription-most cars that are limited & most wanted tend to be under 150 units though I'm no expert
One other point on numbers-the last time cars were commodities when new was just prior to the bubble bursting in the late 80's wasn't it? Take from that what you will...
As for spec, clubsport is a must for me-that's the main thing. Not some heavy folding buckets with airbags built in but a proper nomex, harness bar & electrical cut off. Oh & bright colours, a wide variety of bright colours!
However this car has the potential to be 1 of the best drives at any price. If its NA with further improved electric steering, it will be. This alone should make it a reasonably sound buy over the longer term, especially if there's more turbocharging around.
The deposits completely returnable if we're not happy with anything eg price/spec etc. If its too expensive ¬ exclusive enough ill go for a gts or an r.
On the colours , I'd also like something bright, which would mean PTS , def 2016 for that!
I ain't gonna bother with this. I was down my opc earlier and they stated if I paid them 3k today they'd tell me all about the Cayman GT5 GTS RS spyder. They are only making 71 but hopefully I'll get one. Can't say much as its a secret. Please feel free to email me with a picture of your left nipple and the secret handshake and I'll be able to tell you what bhp it'll be running*.
- within the nearest 500bhp.
ags11 said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
If the numbers & rumours posted above are correct then you're looking at the second batch of 100 if you're no5 on the list-not sure where the 3 per opc number came from but again, assuming it's correct you're in for a 2016 build.
On the numbers I personally think 200 is a wee but too high for serious over subscription-most cars that are limited & most wanted tend to be under 150 units though I'm no expert
One other point on numbers-the last time cars were commodities when new was just prior to the bubble bursting in the late 80's wasn't it? Take from that what you will...
As for spec, clubsport is a must for me-that's the main thing. Not some heavy folding buckets with airbags built in but a proper nomex, harness bar & electrical cut off. Oh & bright colours, a wide variety of bright colours!
I agree on 200 being too high for comfort. Things are on a bit of a hype, & sometimes guessing what becomes the new hype is exactly that!On the numbers I personally think 200 is a wee but too high for serious over subscription-most cars that are limited & most wanted tend to be under 150 units though I'm no expert
One other point on numbers-the last time cars were commodities when new was just prior to the bubble bursting in the late 80's wasn't it? Take from that what you will...
As for spec, clubsport is a must for me-that's the main thing. Not some heavy folding buckets with airbags built in but a proper nomex, harness bar & electrical cut off. Oh & bright colours, a wide variety of bright colours!
However this car has the potential to be 1 of the best drives at any price. If its NA with further improved electric steering, it will be. This alone should make it a reasonably sound buy over the longer term, especially if there's more turbocharging around.
The deposits completely returnable if we're not happy with anything eg price/spec etc. If its too expensive ¬ exclusive enough ill go for a gts or an r.
On the colours , I'd also like something bright, which would mean PTS , def 2016 for that!
PTS by the way, when I was going through ordering a spyder with it it put a massive delay on the build-in the end I bottled it & didn't even buy one as they were such a struggle to sell back then. Bit of a mistake when you look back to say the least!
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Can't see it being manual only either, though the cinic in me might consider it being a move to deliberately make it officially slower than the 911-especially with regards to publishing 0-60 & ring lap times.
Happen to agree on this point. I think no doubt whatsoever whether the car is Manual or PDK or offered with either boxes, in terms of sports cars Porsche I dont believe, will want to distract away from the performance of the 911 their 50yr old icon. I dont doubt for a moment the people who say purely in terms as its a mid engined car the cayman and the boxster offer better balance etc just think they will purposely stop this just short of becoming the car we all really want to see.HokumPokum said:
manual only, the latest rumour on planet 9
If it is, I am still 'in'.But, if there was a choice between manual and PDK, I'd probably spec PDK.
So, I guess it doesn't matter much to me...
I just hope I get a car if it's very limited and I am already only 6/7 on the list!
The thing I'm wondering, is what exactly do Porsche need to build with this car?
In particular, we know Porsche want to have a car to sell to customers in the GT4 category. However, the cayman is already homologated in that, so why build a road car to go with it? GT4 is essentially a road car formula for amateur drivers, the rules state that cars are not allowed additional aero so is this the only reason for building the road car-to get some aggressive aero on the race car?
The real question lies in how good the current homologated cayman is and if it needs improving, what will Porsche have to add to make it better?
Aero?
Engine? If the current 3.4 isn't powerful enough, what will be? Bearing in mind the aston N24 competes in GT4 with 4.7 litres although the FIA during homologation neuter cars to make performance equivalent, would 3.6 be enough?
Suspension? I'm not aware of how much can be changed from the road car but I suspect the fixed points will need to be the same-does the cayman need improving here too?
Gearbox and drive train-again I'm not sure on how close to factory a GT4 car needs to be, but aston supply the n24 in manual, sport shift and xtrac sequential.
If Porsche want to sell GT4 race cars they need only one thing, for it to be the best in class. Figure out what that needs to be and I think we'll have an idea of what the Cayman GT4 road car will end up being.
(Disclaimer, none of the above is anything more than a theory and could be complete nonsense )
In particular, we know Porsche want to have a car to sell to customers in the GT4 category. However, the cayman is already homologated in that, so why build a road car to go with it? GT4 is essentially a road car formula for amateur drivers, the rules state that cars are not allowed additional aero so is this the only reason for building the road car-to get some aggressive aero on the race car?
The real question lies in how good the current homologated cayman is and if it needs improving, what will Porsche have to add to make it better?
Aero?
Engine? If the current 3.4 isn't powerful enough, what will be? Bearing in mind the aston N24 competes in GT4 with 4.7 litres although the FIA during homologation neuter cars to make performance equivalent, would 3.6 be enough?
Suspension? I'm not aware of how much can be changed from the road car but I suspect the fixed points will need to be the same-does the cayman need improving here too?
Gearbox and drive train-again I'm not sure on how close to factory a GT4 car needs to be, but aston supply the n24 in manual, sport shift and xtrac sequential.
If Porsche want to sell GT4 race cars they need only one thing, for it to be the best in class. Figure out what that needs to be and I think we'll have an idea of what the Cayman GT4 road car will end up being.
(Disclaimer, none of the above is anything more than a theory and could be complete nonsense
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