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EricE said:
GT3 front axle, completely new rear axle, 410mm front PCCBs, 380mm front steel brakes... same as 991 GT3
GT3 PASM dampers, GT3 steering
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k me, this is the real deal.
Same weight as GTS, 1340kg DIN 1415kg EG
This^^^^GT3 PASM dampers, GT3 steering
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k me, this is the real deal.Same weight as GTS, 1340kg DIN 1415kg EG
Edited by EricE on Tuesday 3rd February 23:41
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Bespoke rear suspension
Minimum 380bhp
Bespoke engine components
5 lug wheels (& in fact boasting about it)
Proper aero
Sub 7:50 ring lap (suck it up, when a Renault does 7:53 it matters)
Adjustable wishbones for camber
Proper tyres
Bargain price
Divided by this;
De tuned carrera engine
Dual mass flywheel
Clubsport extra
Future upgraded models promised
Only 10 secs a lap quicker than a Renault Megane?
First impressions for me are a true modern day 968 clubsport re-interpretation
I only hoped for a true modern day GT3 interpretation. I look forward to my discussion with my local dealership tomorrow
anonymous said:
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That's a shame. Was hoping to keep my total £75K or less. The standard spec sounds good though...
"Standard equipment includes bi-Xenon headlights, sports exhaust, Sport Chrono Pack with dynamic engine mounts, leather/Alcantara interior trim, sports seats, 20-inch alloy wheels, Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) with rear limited slip differential, digital radio, a universal audio interface offering MP3 connectivity, automatic climate control, Porsche Stability Management (PSM), a Porsche Vehicle Tracking anti-theft system and a three-year warranty."
PCCBs are the same as the ones used in the 918 I believe... But the GT4 is 300kg lighter. Can you imagine?
Re CR: I don't think the gt4 will affect r prices too much because it's in an entirely different league now. With the gt3 posting 7:30 and preuninger expecting sub-7:40 times from the gt4 you can be damn sure that the gt4 will massively gain value because it's simply far too cheap compared to the 991. I'd say we will see 100k £ gt4s within 6 months.
So in that aspect not really a problem for the CR at its price point. Might even go up a bit in the right spec.
I'd be quite worried as a 991 GT3 owner though, it might end up being stuck in an awkward "digital but not that fast" spot with the manual GT4 and a potential GT3 RS doing 7:20...
Re CR: I don't think the gt4 will affect r prices too much because it's in an entirely different league now. With the gt3 posting 7:30 and preuninger expecting sub-7:40 times from the gt4 you can be damn sure that the gt4 will massively gain value because it's simply far too cheap compared to the 991. I'd say we will see 100k £ gt4s within 6 months.
So in that aspect not really a problem for the CR at its price point. Might even go up a bit in the right spec.
I'd be quite worried as a 991 GT3 owner though, it might end up being stuck in an awkward "digital but not that fast" spot with the manual GT4 and a potential GT3 RS doing 7:20...
Edited by EricE on Wednesday 4th February 00:29
All new rear suspension - is that still on macpherson struts?
quite a lot to like about the car though, mechanical locking diff, manual only, decent brakes and no centrelocks. Offset against that, no dry sump and no passive dampers. Looks good overall as a package i think and as per all the gt cars, likely to be awfully good to drive in it's own way.
quite a lot to like about the car though, mechanical locking diff, manual only, decent brakes and no centrelocks. Offset against that, no dry sump and no passive dampers. Looks good overall as a package i think and as per all the gt cars, likely to be awfully good to drive in it's own way.
Edited by isaldiri on Wednesday 4th February 00:43
I'll admit it… looks delicious in this colour with the big reds.
This would be what I'd have.
Still not at peace with the rear wing but it is what it is…bravo Porsche… good job.
The general look of the car is like more refined Exige V6 S
Edited by TDT on Wednesday 4th February 01:11
Edited by TDT on Wednesday 4th February 01:12
Mr. Preuninger dropped a lot of very clear hints in that Evo video.
They developed the GT4 as manual only because of a synergy with other ongoing projects... that's the manual 991 GT3 RS confirmed.
They are using the GT4 to check how customers respond to it and are very open to iterating on that idea.
Together with the extreme resonance of this car within the community I'd say that's the 981.2 GT4 and the GT4 RS confirmed.
Confirming what Dr. Hatz said they are planning to keep N/A alive for not only a short time but for at least a "couple of years".
The Cayman GT4 as the manual N/A Porsche? Most definitely not. But one hell of an interesting car none the less.
They developed the GT4 as manual only because of a synergy with other ongoing projects... that's the manual 991 GT3 RS confirmed.
They are using the GT4 to check how customers respond to it and are very open to iterating on that idea.
Together with the extreme resonance of this car within the community I'd say that's the 981.2 GT4 and the GT4 RS confirmed.
Confirming what Dr. Hatz said they are planning to keep N/A alive for not only a short time but for at least a "couple of years".
The Cayman GT4 as the manual N/A Porsche? Most definitely not. But one hell of an interesting car none the less.
Manual only will be a good thing for porsche as keeps the car off the pace slightly, gives us the more hardcore track car - if you want speed get gt3, to have fun the Gt4 will provide and a lot cheaper to boot. Manual only may also make it slightly easier to get one as some wanting PDK might fall away.
The emissions as well to small and rollout to game the stats the way manufacturers seem to these days.
I love the specs v happy with them now how to get one....
The emissions as well to small and rollout to game the stats the way manufacturers seem to these days.
I love the specs v happy with them now how to get one....
I think Porsche have delivered with this car - the only (slight) disappointment is the engine - everything else about the spec is absolutely spot-on. All new Aluminium double wishbone rear suspension? Oooh yes please - front end from a GT3, GT3 brakes, club sport option, manual only. God it's like they read my mind.
Pretty much exactly what I'd want from the car and they're even saying the steering is better than it is on the GT3 - what's not to like? It's pretty much perfect!
The only thing that could have made it better would have been a slight rework of the engine to include a higher rev limit for the engine and a dry sumped oil system.
Pretty much exactly what I'd want from the car and they're even saying the steering is better than it is on the GT3 - what's not to like? It's pretty much perfect!
The only thing that could have made it better would have been a slight rework of the engine to include a higher rev limit for the engine and a dry sumped oil system.
Official Porsche Press Release
The benchmark in its class: the Porsche Cayman GT4
Porsche is proud to introduce a new addition to its line of revered GT high performance models; the Cayman GT4.
This is the first time Porsche has introduced such a focused GT model based on the mid-engined, two-seat Cayman coupe. Sharing components and genetic spirit with the iconic 911 GT3, a lap time of 7 min 40 sec around the Nürburgring Nordschleife places the Cayman GT4 emphatically as the new benchmark at the top of its market segment. It also makes a clear statement that Porsche will continue to promote radical two-door sports cars now and in the future - sports cars that are developed at the company's Motorsport department in Weissach.
The engine, chassis, brakes and aerodynamic design of the Cayman GT4 are configured for maximum driving dynamics; yet the top model still retains the versatility and everyday utility that are typical of a Porsche sports car.
The Cayman GT4 is powered by a mid-mounted, 3.8-litre flat-six engine with 385 hp (283 kW), which is derived from the 911 Carrera S engine. Its power is transmitted by a standard six-speed manual gearbox with dynamic gearbox mounts - there is no PDK transmission option. This translates in to acceleration from zero to 62 mph in 4.4 seconds; top speed is 183 mph. The car's NEDC fuel consumption is 27.4 mpg. The body is lowered by 30 mm versus the standard Cayman, and features a purposefully-proportioned brake system. Furthermore, the chassis has been comprehensively fine-tuned with many components shared with the 911 GT3.
Fit for the race track: first Porsche Cayman with downforce on both axles
The new GT4 is clearly differentiated from its brothers in the Cayman range. Three distinctive inlet openings in the nose and a large fixed rear wing are part of an aerodynamic package which is systematically designed to not only reduce lift but also generate downforce.
Upon request, the Cayman GT4 can be equipped even more comprehensively for more sporting, or track day driving. Options include PCCB ceramic brakes, shell-backed seats made of carbon fibre reinforced plastic (CFRP), a custom Sport Chrono Package with the unique Track Precision app, and a Club Sport Package.
The interior of the Cayman GT4 is designed so that the driver and passenger can become immersed in unfiltered driving enjoyment. Sports seats, upholstered in a combination of leather and Alcantara, are distinguished by very good lateral support. Due to its compact dimensions, the new GT4 sports steering wheel guarantees ideal control and direct steering feedback.
Technical aspects of the new Cayman GT4 are based on the 911 GT3. As a mid-engined sports car and a prime example of driving dynamics in its class, it follows the conceptual tradition of such cars as the 904 GTS, 911 GT1, Carrera GT and 918 Spyder.
GT sports cars from Porsche embody the most passionate transfer of technology from the race track to the road, and clearly demonstrate the sporting core of the brand: Intelligent Performance. Four out of five drivers of Porsche GT models also use their cars to participate in track days and club motorsport.
The Cayman GT4 goes on sale in Porsche Centres in the UK and Ireland today priced from £64,451, and will celebrate its world premiere in March at the Geneva International Motor Show. First customer deliveries are scheduled for the end of March.
Standard equipment includes bi-Xenon headlights, sports exhaust, Sport Chrono Pack with dynamic engine mounts, leather/Alcantara interior trim, sports seats, 20-inch alloy wheels, Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) with rear limited slip differential, digital radio, a universal audio interface offering MP3 connectivity, automatic climate control, Porsche Stability Management (PSM), a Porsche Vehicle Tracking anti-theft system and a three-year warranty.
Customers will also be able to explore the potential of their new car by participating in a complimentary course at the Porsche Experience Centre, Silverstone.
The benchmark in its class: the Porsche Cayman GT4
Porsche is proud to introduce a new addition to its line of revered GT high performance models; the Cayman GT4.
This is the first time Porsche has introduced such a focused GT model based on the mid-engined, two-seat Cayman coupe. Sharing components and genetic spirit with the iconic 911 GT3, a lap time of 7 min 40 sec around the Nürburgring Nordschleife places the Cayman GT4 emphatically as the new benchmark at the top of its market segment. It also makes a clear statement that Porsche will continue to promote radical two-door sports cars now and in the future - sports cars that are developed at the company's Motorsport department in Weissach.
The engine, chassis, brakes and aerodynamic design of the Cayman GT4 are configured for maximum driving dynamics; yet the top model still retains the versatility and everyday utility that are typical of a Porsche sports car.
The Cayman GT4 is powered by a mid-mounted, 3.8-litre flat-six engine with 385 hp (283 kW), which is derived from the 911 Carrera S engine. Its power is transmitted by a standard six-speed manual gearbox with dynamic gearbox mounts - there is no PDK transmission option. This translates in to acceleration from zero to 62 mph in 4.4 seconds; top speed is 183 mph. The car's NEDC fuel consumption is 27.4 mpg. The body is lowered by 30 mm versus the standard Cayman, and features a purposefully-proportioned brake system. Furthermore, the chassis has been comprehensively fine-tuned with many components shared with the 911 GT3.
Fit for the race track: first Porsche Cayman with downforce on both axles
The new GT4 is clearly differentiated from its brothers in the Cayman range. Three distinctive inlet openings in the nose and a large fixed rear wing are part of an aerodynamic package which is systematically designed to not only reduce lift but also generate downforce.
Upon request, the Cayman GT4 can be equipped even more comprehensively for more sporting, or track day driving. Options include PCCB ceramic brakes, shell-backed seats made of carbon fibre reinforced plastic (CFRP), a custom Sport Chrono Package with the unique Track Precision app, and a Club Sport Package.
The interior of the Cayman GT4 is designed so that the driver and passenger can become immersed in unfiltered driving enjoyment. Sports seats, upholstered in a combination of leather and Alcantara, are distinguished by very good lateral support. Due to its compact dimensions, the new GT4 sports steering wheel guarantees ideal control and direct steering feedback.
Technical aspects of the new Cayman GT4 are based on the 911 GT3. As a mid-engined sports car and a prime example of driving dynamics in its class, it follows the conceptual tradition of such cars as the 904 GTS, 911 GT1, Carrera GT and 918 Spyder.
GT sports cars from Porsche embody the most passionate transfer of technology from the race track to the road, and clearly demonstrate the sporting core of the brand: Intelligent Performance. Four out of five drivers of Porsche GT models also use their cars to participate in track days and club motorsport.
The Cayman GT4 goes on sale in Porsche Centres in the UK and Ireland today priced from £64,451, and will celebrate its world premiere in March at the Geneva International Motor Show. First customer deliveries are scheduled for the end of March.
Standard equipment includes bi-Xenon headlights, sports exhaust, Sport Chrono Pack with dynamic engine mounts, leather/Alcantara interior trim, sports seats, 20-inch alloy wheels, Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) with rear limited slip differential, digital radio, a universal audio interface offering MP3 connectivity, automatic climate control, Porsche Stability Management (PSM), a Porsche Vehicle Tracking anti-theft system and a three-year warranty.
Customers will also be able to explore the potential of their new car by participating in a complimentary course at the Porsche Experience Centre, Silverstone.
they have nerfed the car by not providing a pdk transmission.
this now becomes and almost car just like the Cayman R, 90% great but someone at Porsche pulls a fast one and decides it can't have a pdk transmission due to 'brand positioning' or some other ste.
there will be lots of disappointed people out there today.
this now becomes and almost car just like the Cayman R, 90% great but someone at Porsche pulls a fast one and decides it can't have a pdk transmission due to 'brand positioning' or some other s
te. there will be lots of disappointed people out there today.
Oh yes.... This looks incredible.
I seriously want one of these. First 981 to make me 'want' one and to be honest it holds more of an appeal than most base 991s.
That looks so right, and you just know it will great to drive.
Initial price looks appealing but to turn it into the ultimate GT4 it becomes pretty expensive.
Do love the fact it hasn't got PDK (for now)....
I seriously want one of these. First 981 to make me 'want' one and to be honest it holds more of an appeal than most base 991s.
That looks so right, and you just know it will great to drive.
Initial price looks appealing but to turn it into the ultimate GT4 it becomes pretty expensive.
Do love the fact it hasn't got PDK (for now)....
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