Prospective 981 GT4 Owners Discussion Forum.

[dom9]

On my 3rd day of playing phone tag with my OPC... Still can't seem to confirm I am on the list and spoke to a different sales guy today who thinks it WILL require a deposit now.

Waiting on yet another call, later today. Will swing by there tomorrow if I can't clarify the situation...

Reading between the lines of what is written here (and available on the web), the only (significant) thing that doesn't seem relatively clear is what capacity the engine will be...

[DMC2]

dom9 said:

On my 3rd day of playing phone tag with my OPC... Still can't seem to confirm I am on the list and spoke to a different sales guy today who thinks it WILL require a deposit now.

Waiting on yet another call, later today. Will swing by there tomorrow if I can't clarify the situation...

Reading between the lines of what is written here (and available on the web), the only (significant) thing that doesn't seem relatively clear is what capacity the engine will be...

and how extreme it will be...
and what gearbox...
and the price...
and the production run..

[m33ufo]

Question....is there a reason why the individuals who apparently know "everything" don't just spill the beans?

Is it because they might feel like twunt's if they're wrong? Just give it up, what's the big deal?

[lemmingjames]

m33ufo said:

Question....is there a reason why the individuals who apparently know "everything" don't just spill the beans?

Is it because they might feel like twunt's if they're wrong? Just give it up, what's the big deal?

Maybe they dont know anything and just fooling us all/want to be important on the internets.

What i want to know is will i be disappointed if i traded in a 96 GT3 for one? From what ive read, the two people who apparently know everything dont like the 96 '3 so cant give me a reasoned answer

[EricE]

Wait are you suggesting that people interested in purchasing the very latest and greatest "sportscar to end all other sportscars" are more likely to have issues with their ego than other people?

[HokumPokum]

this is the internet man..

u can say what u what (to an extent) and that barrier is a long way from being breached discussing about the Gt4..........

[itsybitsy]

More confusion 2 people in the know one is it is not a turbo the other it is?

[itsybitsy]

IMHO to be an epic car it needs a detuned gt3 lump of say 3400cc,be a manual and weigh under 1300kg ! But the cost will be circa £90k which ties in what was quoted earlier 90 k euros in Germany equates to £90k once taxes are added!
Also if producing a race car won't it have to be dry sumped?

[dom9]

DMC2 said:

and how extreme it will be...
and what gearbox...
and the price...
and the production run..

Very fair! Ok, perhaps I should have been more clear about what I have read between the lines:

- Extreme: I'm assuming GT3 levels of stiffness but no enormous weight loss (beyond carbon seats and potential AC delete etc) as it's not RS badged.
- Gearbox: Whether I would opt for it or not... It does sound like it is going to be manual, reading between the lines/ hints/ suggestions.
- Price: £75k-ish seems to be the suggestion, which is fine by me.
- Production run: Yeah, I was meaning spec-wise in my post. This may be the BIG deal for me if I don't get a call back soon! I am hoping for >150

I am now fairly sure it will not be a turbo-4, based on conversations with the dealers and those in the know and can Porsche risk a new engine technology on another 'GT' car after the GT3 issues?

So, yeah, capacity and production run are the two items of 'interest' to me... But may not be of interest to everyone

[APOLO1]

anonymous said:

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I would not trust a UK OPC to tell me the time....

[DMC2]

dom9 said:

Very fair! Ok, perhaps I should have been more clear about what I have read between the lines:

- Extreme: I'm assuming GT3 levels of stiffness but no enormous weight loss (beyond carbon seats and potential AC delete etc) as it's not RS badged.
- Gearbox: Whether I would opt for it or not... It does sound like it is going to be manual, reading between the lines/ hints/ suggestions.
- Price: £75k-ish seems to be the suggestion, which is fine by me.
- Production run: Yeah, I was meaning spec-wise in my post. This may be the BIG deal for me if I don't get a call back soon! I am hoping for >150

I am now fairly sure it will not be a turbo-4, based on conversations with the dealers and those in the know and can Porsche risk a new engine technology on another 'GT' car after the GT3 issues?

So, yeah, capacity and production run are the two items of 'interest' to me... But may not be of interest to everyone

I think it will be £75k+ options, so probably £90k for a decent spec. Same as a GT3 is £100k but they were all specced minimum £115k.

[APOLO1]

itsybitsy said:

More confusion 2 people in the know one is it is not a turbo the other it is?

only one other on here in the know, and he's in the N/A camp......

[dom9]

anonymous said:

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Nope, not bothered much at all but for different reasons that mean the outcome in my head (and heart) is the same...

Manual is more involving and arguably more fun (though I can find it tiresome around town).

PDK (especially if 'S') would make the car as fast as it could be from the factory, the ultimate Cayman with a 'box that was (possibly) different (if PDK-S) to every other version...

If they want to give me maximum driver involvement, that's fine by me. If they want to give me maximum attack, that is also fine with me.

I have always chosen manuals, where available. I just think that if you're looking to buy a 'track car', I (not necessarily anyone else) would want the ultimate.

So, if I can only have a manual, I won't complain. If I can only have PDK, I won't compalin. If I get a choice... I'll probably go PDK (definitely if it is PDK-S).

[LaurasOtherHalf]

anonymous said:

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As I'm writing from a sun lounger, I've actually had ample time to ponder this and I'm amazed to find I'm slightly in the same camp.

If PDK-S was offered, I'd be tempted. I can't rationalise it, especially as I haven't driven a 991gt3 but it does seem to offer all things to all men, and anyone who uses a car regularly these days has to accept a daily commute would be so much more relaxing being able to just stick it in D.

That nagging doubt left over from my CSL days may still persist however, it just lacks something of "the challenge" once you start to really get to grips with the car

[ags11]

Ok, so manual v pdks would be an interesting choice to have.

Would anyone be put off if it's turbocharged?

[dom9]

ags11 said:

Ok, so manual v pdks would be an interesting choice to have.

Would anyone be put off if it's turbocharged?

There a whole thread on this but I've decided I WOULD be put off if it's not NA.

With regards the transmission, perhaps I could summarise my lengthy response as "I trust Porsche to give me the transmission they think I should have".

Ok, maybe that doesn't cover having an option of Manual or PDK but if they have put PDK-S in, I assume that's the one they want me to have.

[LaurasOtherHalf]

ags11 said:

Ok, so manual v pdks would be an interesting choice to have.

Would anyone be put off if it's turbocharged?

Not necessarily, though I'm told it won't be. Plus any self respecting PH'r wants to be able to post that he/she owns "the last true.........." (fill in the blanks as applicable) and manual naturally aspirated would be quite the coup round these parts

[ags11]

Not necessarily, though I'm told it won't be. Plus any self respecting PH'r wants to be able to post that he/she owns "the last true.........." (fill in the blanks as applicable) and manual naturally aspirated would be quite the coup round these parts
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+1 re manual & na being a coup. If we had hyd steering that'd be job done!
I'm off to buy an R!!

[mrdemon]

Gear box, numbers, Dates and NA/turbo has been posted why are people going round in circles again in a frenzy with the same questions ?

OPC's don't have any spec , so don't hassle them, you guys will know before the OPC's

They know the numbers and the embargo dates and some one has posted both of those which are correct.
I even confirmed the numbers from the poster many pages back.

Numbers are a bit high imo but less than the number of Cayman R's which were sold in the UK.
If you want a rarer car get your name down on the Spyder ;-)

[LaurasOtherHalf]

Because some people who claim to know certain things appear to be at odds with each other