Prospective 981 GT4 Owners Discussion Forum.
Discussion
EricE said:
I suspect we'll see quite a few punters chop in their GT4s for something else in the next year or two. I know two people who wanted a GTS and switched their order to comfort spec GT4s for "earlier delivery and more power", they are in for quite a surprise.
Indeed. I expect the demand right now might just be heavily fueled by a combination of the marketing hype and interested parties thinking it is essentially a GTS plus.It may not be too tough to grab one of these as a second owner once the newness wears off and people realise it may be more uncompromising in terms of front nose scrapes and ride quality etc than they had in mind as a GTS plus.
Small consolation for those who wanted to custom their own order I know but if all you want is to get one then scratching that itch may not be too hard.
The question of course will be whether the cars coming back up for sale are specified in a way that those willing to bump around will want.
< note: i have no crystal ball nor mind reading abilities. this could all just be utter tosh!!! >
turbofreeFLAT6 said:
Love your work; I've been unable to find approach angles. Can you find them for the 996 and 991 GT3?
I found 5.6° for the MY 06 GT3 and the same for the 997.2 GT3. I added the data to the posting.Unfortunately I couldn't find anything at all on the 991 GT3! It should have two angles - one with and one without the lifter.
The problem is that many people (and websites) confuse the approach- and ramp/breakover angle. 10° for the Evora and 10,3° for the Cayman R seem quite high, but the data for the Evora is straight out of the press release stating:
Evora PR said:
"The approach angle has been reduced from 11.5 degrees to 10 degrees to aid aerodynamic downforce."
The 987 Cayman R seems to have similar overhangs so seems to be correct.Just came home from press day and got to sit in the car for 30 seconds thanks to some contacts from my OPC. I think the spec of that particular yellow car is very unfortunate to say the least. I could write a few ramblings but I doubt anybody would be interested.
swimd said:
The 987 Cayman R seems to have similar overhangs so seems to be correct.
Just came home from press day and got to sit in the car for 30 seconds thanks to some contacts from my OPC. I think the spec of that particular yellow car is very unfortunate to say the least. I could write a few ramblings but I doubt anybody would be interested.
Please do tellJust came home from press day and got to sit in the car for 30 seconds thanks to some contacts from my OPC. I think the spec of that particular yellow car is very unfortunate to say the least. I could write a few ramblings but I doubt anybody would be interested.
swimd said:
Just came home from press day and got to sit in the car for 30 seconds thanks to some contacts from my OPC. I think the spec of that particular yellow car is very unfortunate to say the least. I could write a few ramblings but I doubt anybody would be interested.
Please do....I would be very interested to know what you thought.
franki68 said:
how do you want this answering ? in simple honest terms yes ,I am getting a car and yes I had to finalize my spec yesterday,I have no further info.
to answer the more pedantic ,I dont have an order number or anything or a confirmed delivery date ,just an indication of when the delivery will be,so according to them Im not getting.
take your pick.
I think they are pulling your tail, spec locked in but no order number or build date, that's just not how it works...to answer the more pedantic ,I dont have an order number or anything or a confirmed delivery date ,just an indication of when the delivery will be,so according to them Im not getting.
take your pick.
franki68 said:
cymario said:
so have you actually had confirmation that you are getting a car and been asked to specify it?
how do you want this answering ? in simple honest terms yes ,I am getting a car and yes I had to finalize my spec yesterday,I have no further info.to answer the more pedantic ,I dont have an order number or anything or a confirmed delivery date ,just an indication of when the delivery will be,so according to them Im not getting.
take your pick.
Phokaioglaukos said:
Littleern said:
Pretty sure I heard that a pure race car version of the GT4 will be released later this year.
You did indeed. Matthias Müller Porsche 991 GT3 RS launch speech
“Ladies and gentlemen, Porsche builds sports cars. This also applies in an age when the best-selling Porsche today has four doors.
“The great success we have had by transferring sports car genes to our SUVs helps us to expand our lineup of extremely sporty cars. “Fit for the track, and fit for the road,” works in technical terms for each and every Porsche model and in economic terms for the entire Porsche fleet.
“Why is that the case? Well, striving for victory at the absolute limit on the race track was very often a source of information for extreme Porsche sports cars: for Porsche dream cars.
“For instance, the 911 Carrera RS 2.7 from 1972, which today is a coveted collectors’ item, or all past generations of the 911 GT3. I can speak from experience here, because the 997 GT3 was not [just] for a long time one of my dream cars, it was also my first company car when I joined Porsche.
“These two extreme sports cars that I am presenting [to] you here today – the Cayman GT4 and the 911 GT3 RS – follow this tradition and are continuing it with vigour and power. Both of them have set record times on the North Loop of the Nürburgring when they came into production and this says more than anything I can say for our GT customers. Most of our customers regularly drive their cars in races and they know what I am talking about.
“The 911 GT3 RS has a time of 7 minutes 20 seconds which beats many much stronger and more expensive sports cars. It’s 400 horsepower* have their maximum effect on the racetrack and nevertheless in everyday driving they are very comfortable. It is the top 911 that is still allowed to bear a licence plate for on-road driving.
“Ladies and gentlemen, ten years after the launch of the Cayman as a puristic mid-engine sports car, we have the GT4, which is introducing the crown glory of this model series. Its North Loop time of 7 minutes and 40 seconds is also unequalled in its segment.
“A pure racetrack version will follow during the course of the year: 385 horsepower and it’s irrepressibly fun to drive. The Cayman GT4 represents the lowest cost entry into Porsche’s GT world.
“Ladies and gentlemen, it is not a coincidence that we are presenting the Cayman GT4 and the 911 GT3 RS here at the Geneva Motor Show. Switzerland and Porsche: that is a uniquely close connection. 8 million inhabitants: 39,000 Porsche sports cars registered. More Porsche per capita cannot be found in any market in the entire world.
“The Swiss when they select their models often like to go right to the top: more than 40% of all 911s here are Turbos or GT3s. In 2014, when we introduced the Macan, people in Switzerland also decided to opt mostly for the Turbo. Our continuing success here is represented by the sales figures last year, which speak volumes: they were up by more than 29%.
“So, the fact that the new Cayman GT4 and the 911 GT3 RS are being launched in Geneva is, among other things, a homage to our loyal Swiss customers. I am certain that they will provide a very good reception to these new extreme sports cars because dream cars are always in demand. Thank you very much for your attention.”
EricE said:
Inverted said:
Anyone know of a GT4 RS coming in the future?
The answer is "nobody knows for sure" but Andreas Preuninger hinted at future models if the reception of the GT4 is good. Demand for the GT4 is quite decent and an RS would be the most obvious future model so I'd say chances are good.Edited by EricE on Tuesday 3rd March 16:38
Ok, well, please excuse any grammatical errors. 
New bucket seats feel solid, nice and are easier to get in and out of. I believe they are wider than the old ones so even powerfully built company directors should have no trouble. Ahem.
Yellow deviated stiching is not for me, neither is the exterior color or the combination of the two. Some of the yellow inside doesn't match, for example the dashboard stitching and seat embroidery/door strap looked like two different shades of yellow. Am I nitpicking? Maybe. Is it Pre-production related? Likely. Will somebody tell me to post on mumsnet instead of the PH Porsche forums? No doubt.
The steering wheel is SO NICE and the best Porsche steering wheel I've seen yet, looks great, feels great and it's just he right size/thickness. A lot of 981 owners are going to want to retrofit these if Porsche offers them as Tequipment.
The Carbon trim inside looked "over the top" together with the yellow but would suit a grey or silver car with grey stitching nicely.
Whoever optioned the launch car simply does not share my taste. I am wondering if the idea was to make it look less desirable because the demand already too high. Only half joking here, stranger things have happened with Porsche.
While the whole cabin looked extremely high quality, the design of the 991/981 doesn't really lend itself to the "stripped out and hardcore" look they were trying to achieve. Full leather and alcantara doesn't help with that. Made me wonder if it would look more "purposeful" with the plastic dash? Could well be IMO.
You can tell that they tried and with the cloth door openers (
) but just didn't take the concept far enough in my eyes. All the knobs and switchgear seemed 100% identical to the parts in our Cayenne Diesel. Not sure what else I expected?! It's just something I didn't consider before sitting in the car. 
The very high center console and lack of handbrake in a car like this seems wrong but it is even worse in the 991 GT3 RS. Who knows what they were thinking with the lava orange alcantara!
In my opinion they should have designed a new center console for the GT3 RS, the Cayenne/Panamera style console looks completely out of place in what is supposed to be a track car.
Anyway, the GT4 had two PSM buttons, a "Sport" button, a PASM button and a sports exhaust button. Lots of empty buttons.
As for the exterior: I'm not a big fan of the wing and front spoiler. The GTS is a better looking car in my eyes. My biggest worry are the approach angles and ground clearance. There will be aftermarket lifter kits available but those will invalidate the warranty. Suboptimal to say the least.
I'm not going to touch on the whole street vs. track tradeoff, it's labeled a GT car so it is what it is.
I came in very optimistic and giddy and left feeling like might be Porsche losing their way, N/A manual notwithstanding. In reality it's not Porsche but the whole industry. In fact Porsche is the only one giving the enthusiasts what they want!
Still very much looking forward to a test drive. Hopefully all my doubts will be washed away on that day since I sold two of my other cars to free up funds for the GT4... no turning back now.
PS: a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 now looks like a better investment than ever. IMO that is going to be the '73 RS of our generation.
New bucket seats feel solid, nice and are easier to get in and out of. I believe they are wider than the old ones so even powerfully built company directors should have no trouble. Ahem.
Yellow deviated stiching is not for me, neither is the exterior color or the combination of the two. Some of the yellow inside doesn't match, for example the dashboard stitching and seat embroidery/door strap looked like two different shades of yellow. Am I nitpicking? Maybe. Is it Pre-production related? Likely. Will somebody tell me to post on mumsnet instead of the PH Porsche forums? No doubt.
The steering wheel is SO NICE and the best Porsche steering wheel I've seen yet, looks great, feels great and it's just he right size/thickness. A lot of 981 owners are going to want to retrofit these if Porsche offers them as Tequipment.
The Carbon trim inside looked "over the top" together with the yellow but would suit a grey or silver car with grey stitching nicely.
Whoever optioned the launch car simply does not share my taste. I am wondering if the idea was to make it look less desirable because the demand already too high. Only half joking here, stranger things have happened with Porsche.
While the whole cabin looked extremely high quality, the design of the 991/981 doesn't really lend itself to the "stripped out and hardcore" look they were trying to achieve. Full leather and alcantara doesn't help with that. Made me wonder if it would look more "purposeful" with the plastic dash? Could well be IMO.
You can tell that they tried and with the cloth door openers (
) but just didn't take the concept far enough in my eyes. All the knobs and switchgear seemed 100% identical to the parts in our Cayenne Diesel. Not sure what else I expected?! It's just something I didn't consider before sitting in the car. The very high center console and lack of handbrake in a car like this seems wrong but it is even worse in the 991 GT3 RS. Who knows what they were thinking with the lava orange alcantara!
In my opinion they should have designed a new center console for the GT3 RS, the Cayenne/Panamera style console looks completely out of place in what is supposed to be a track car.
Anyway, the GT4 had two PSM buttons, a "Sport" button, a PASM button and a sports exhaust button. Lots of empty buttons.
As for the exterior: I'm not a big fan of the wing and front spoiler. The GTS is a better looking car in my eyes. My biggest worry are the approach angles and ground clearance. There will be aftermarket lifter kits available but those will invalidate the warranty. Suboptimal to say the least.
I'm not going to touch on the whole street vs. track tradeoff, it's labeled a GT car so it is what it is.
I came in very optimistic and giddy and left feeling like might be Porsche losing their way, N/A manual notwithstanding. In reality it's not Porsche but the whole industry. In fact Porsche is the only one giving the enthusiasts what they want!
Still very much looking forward to a test drive. Hopefully all my doubts will be washed away on that day since I sold two of my other cars to free up funds for the GT4... no turning back now.
PS: a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 now looks like a better investment than ever. IMO that is going to be the '73 RS of our generation.
swimd said:
Ok, well, please excuse any grammatical errors.
New bucket seats feel solid, nice and are easier to get in and out of. I believe they are wider than the old ones so even powerfully built company directors should have no trouble. Ahem.
Yellow deviated stiching is not for me, neither is the exterior color or the combination of the two. Some of the yellow inside doesn't match, for example the dashboard stitching and seat embroidery/door strap looked like two different shades of yellow. Am I nitpicking? Maybe. Is it Pre-production related? Likely. Will somebody tell me to post on mumsnet instead of the PH Porsche forums? No doubt.
The steering wheel is SO NICE and the best Porsche steering wheel I've seen yet, looks great, feels great and it's just he right size/thickness. A lot of 981 owners are going to want to retrofit these if Porsche offers them as Tequipment.
The Carbon trim inside looked "over the top" together with the yellow but would suit a grey or silver car with grey stitching nicely.
Whoever optioned the launch car simply does not share my taste. I am wondering if the idea was to make it look less desirable because the demand already too high. Only half joking here, stranger things have happened with Porsche.
While the whole cabin looked extremely high quality, the design of the 991/981 doesn't really lend itself to the "stripped out and hardcore" look they were trying to achieve. Full leather and alcantara doesn't help with that. Made me wonder if it would look more "purposeful" with the plastic dash? Could well be IMO.
You can tell that they tried and with the cloth door openers ( ) but just didn't take the concept far enough in my eyes. All the knobs and switchgear seemed 100% identical to the parts in our Cayenne Diesel. Not sure what else I expected?! It's just something I didn't consider before sitting in the car.
The very high center console and lack of handbrake in a car like this seems wrong but it is even worse in the 991 GT3 RS. Who knows what they were thinking with the lava orange alcantara!
In my opinion they should have designed a new center console for the GT3 RS, the Cayenne/Panamera style console looks completely out of place in what is supposed to be a track car.
Anyway, the GT4 had two PSM buttons, a "Sport" button, a PASM button and a sports exhaust button. Lots of empty buttons.
As for the exterior: I'm not a big fan of the wing and front spoiler. The GTS is a better looking car in my eyes. My biggest worry are the approach angles and ground clearance. There will be aftermarket lifter kits available but those will invalidate the warranty. Suboptimal to say the least.
I'm not going to touch on the whole street vs. track tradeoff, it's labeled a GT car so it is what it is.
I came in very optimistic and giddy and left feeling like might be Porsche losing their way, N/A manual notwithstanding. In reality it's not Porsche but the whole industry. In fact Porsche is the only one giving the enthusiasts what they want!
Still very much looking forward to a test drive. Hopefully all my doubts will be washed away on that day since I sold two of my other cars to free up funds for the GT4... no turning back now.
PS: a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 now looks like a better investment than ever. IMO that is going to be the '73 RS of our generation.
Very interesting read thanks swimd and tend to agree with you based on the pictures. The only point I would raise with you is the RS 4.0 is currently fetching 375k for a rhd variant, do you think it's got much more in it in the near to medium future? Lhd variants are much lower value is this just a case of a UK bubble?New bucket seats feel solid, nice and are easier to get in and out of. I believe they are wider than the old ones so even powerfully built company directors should have no trouble. Ahem.
Yellow deviated stiching is not for me, neither is the exterior color or the combination of the two. Some of the yellow inside doesn't match, for example the dashboard stitching and seat embroidery/door strap looked like two different shades of yellow. Am I nitpicking? Maybe. Is it Pre-production related? Likely. Will somebody tell me to post on mumsnet instead of the PH Porsche forums? No doubt.
The steering wheel is SO NICE and the best Porsche steering wheel I've seen yet, looks great, feels great and it's just he right size/thickness. A lot of 981 owners are going to want to retrofit these if Porsche offers them as Tequipment.
The Carbon trim inside looked "over the top" together with the yellow but would suit a grey or silver car with grey stitching nicely.
Whoever optioned the launch car simply does not share my taste. I am wondering if the idea was to make it look less desirable because the demand already too high. Only half joking here, stranger things have happened with Porsche.
While the whole cabin looked extremely high quality, the design of the 991/981 doesn't really lend itself to the "stripped out and hardcore" look they were trying to achieve. Full leather and alcantara doesn't help with that. Made me wonder if it would look more "purposeful" with the plastic dash? Could well be IMO.
You can tell that they tried and with the cloth door openers (
) but just didn't take the concept far enough in my eyes. All the knobs and switchgear seemed 100% identical to the parts in our Cayenne Diesel. Not sure what else I expected?! It's just something I didn't consider before sitting in the car. The very high center console and lack of handbrake in a car like this seems wrong but it is even worse in the 991 GT3 RS. Who knows what they were thinking with the lava orange alcantara!
In my opinion they should have designed a new center console for the GT3 RS, the Cayenne/Panamera style console looks completely out of place in what is supposed to be a track car.
Anyway, the GT4 had two PSM buttons, a "Sport" button, a PASM button and a sports exhaust button. Lots of empty buttons.
As for the exterior: I'm not a big fan of the wing and front spoiler. The GTS is a better looking car in my eyes. My biggest worry are the approach angles and ground clearance. There will be aftermarket lifter kits available but those will invalidate the warranty. Suboptimal to say the least.
I'm not going to touch on the whole street vs. track tradeoff, it's labeled a GT car so it is what it is.
I came in very optimistic and giddy and left feeling like might be Porsche losing their way, N/A manual notwithstanding. In reality it's not Porsche but the whole industry. In fact Porsche is the only one giving the enthusiasts what they want!
Still very much looking forward to a test drive. Hopefully all my doubts will be washed away on that day since I sold two of my other cars to free up funds for the GT4... no turning back now.
PS: a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 now looks like a better investment than ever. IMO that is going to be the '73 RS of our generation.
swimd said:
Ok, well, please excuse any grammatical errors.
New bucket seats feel solid, nice and are easier to get in and out of. I believe they are wider than the old ones so even powerfully built company directors should have no trouble. Ahem.
Yellow deviated stiching is not for me, neither is the exterior color or the combination of the two. Some of the yellow inside doesn't match, for example the dashboard stitching and seat embroidery/door strap looked like two different shades of yellow. Am I nitpicking? Maybe. Is it Pre-production related? Likely. Will somebody tell me to post on mumsnet instead of the PH Porsche forums? No doubt.
The steering wheel is SO NICE and the best Porsche steering wheel I've seen yet, looks great, feels great and it's just he right size/thickness. A lot of 981 owners are going to want to retrofit these if Porsche offers them as Tequipment.
The Carbon trim inside looked "over the top" together with the yellow but would suit a grey or silver car with grey stitching nicely.
Whoever optioned the launch car simply does not share my taste. I am wondering if the idea was to make it look less desirable because the demand already too high. Only half joking here, stranger things have happened with Porsche.
While the whole cabin looked extremely high quality, the design of the 991/981 doesn't really lend itself to the "stripped out and hardcore" look they were trying to achieve. Full leather and alcantara doesn't help with that. Made me wonder if it would look more "purposeful" with the plastic dash? Could well be IMO.
You can tell that they tried and with the cloth door openers ( ) but just didn't take the concept far enough in my eyes. All the knobs and switchgear seemed 100% identical to the parts in our Cayenne Diesel. Not sure what else I expected?! It's just something I didn't consider before sitting in the car.
The very high center console and lack of handbrake in a car like this seems wrong but it is even worse in the 991 GT3 RS. Who knows what they were thinking with the lava orange alcantara!
In my opinion they should have designed a new center console for the GT3 RS, the Cayenne/Panamera style console looks completely out of place in what is supposed to be a track car.
Anyway, the GT4 had two PSM buttons, a "Sport" button, a PASM button and a sports exhaust button. Lots of empty buttons.
As for the exterior: I'm not a big fan of the wing and front spoiler. The GTS is a better looking car in my eyes. My biggest worry are the approach angles and ground clearance. There will be aftermarket lifter kits available but those will invalidate the warranty. Suboptimal to say the least.
I'm not going to touch on the whole street vs. track tradeoff, it's labeled a GT car so it is what it is.
I came in very optimistic and giddy and left feeling like might be Porsche losing their way, N/A manual notwithstanding. In reality it's not Porsche but the whole industry. In fact Porsche is the only one giving the enthusiasts what they want!
Still very much looking forward to a test drive. Hopefully all my doubts will be washed away on that day since I sold two of my other cars to free up funds for the GT4... no turning back now.
PS: a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 now looks like a better investment than ever. IMO that is going to be the '73 RS of our generation.
Many thanks for putting down your thoughts. Could it be the GTS is the sweet point in the Cayman range overall...? No doubt the GT4 is a very special car though. New bucket seats feel solid, nice and are easier to get in and out of. I believe they are wider than the old ones so even powerfully built company directors should have no trouble. Ahem.
Yellow deviated stiching is not for me, neither is the exterior color or the combination of the two. Some of the yellow inside doesn't match, for example the dashboard stitching and seat embroidery/door strap looked like two different shades of yellow. Am I nitpicking? Maybe. Is it Pre-production related? Likely. Will somebody tell me to post on mumsnet instead of the PH Porsche forums? No doubt.
The steering wheel is SO NICE and the best Porsche steering wheel I've seen yet, looks great, feels great and it's just he right size/thickness. A lot of 981 owners are going to want to retrofit these if Porsche offers them as Tequipment.
The Carbon trim inside looked "over the top" together with the yellow but would suit a grey or silver car with grey stitching nicely.
Whoever optioned the launch car simply does not share my taste. I am wondering if the idea was to make it look less desirable because the demand already too high. Only half joking here, stranger things have happened with Porsche.
While the whole cabin looked extremely high quality, the design of the 991/981 doesn't really lend itself to the "stripped out and hardcore" look they were trying to achieve. Full leather and alcantara doesn't help with that. Made me wonder if it would look more "purposeful" with the plastic dash? Could well be IMO.
You can tell that they tried and with the cloth door openers (
) but just didn't take the concept far enough in my eyes. All the knobs and switchgear seemed 100% identical to the parts in our Cayenne Diesel. Not sure what else I expected?! It's just something I didn't consider before sitting in the car. The very high center console and lack of handbrake in a car like this seems wrong but it is even worse in the 991 GT3 RS. Who knows what they were thinking with the lava orange alcantara!
In my opinion they should have designed a new center console for the GT3 RS, the Cayenne/Panamera style console looks completely out of place in what is supposed to be a track car.
Anyway, the GT4 had two PSM buttons, a "Sport" button, a PASM button and a sports exhaust button. Lots of empty buttons.
As for the exterior: I'm not a big fan of the wing and front spoiler. The GTS is a better looking car in my eyes. My biggest worry are the approach angles and ground clearance. There will be aftermarket lifter kits available but those will invalidate the warranty. Suboptimal to say the least.
I'm not going to touch on the whole street vs. track tradeoff, it's labeled a GT car so it is what it is.
I came in very optimistic and giddy and left feeling like might be Porsche losing their way, N/A manual notwithstanding. In reality it's not Porsche but the whole industry. In fact Porsche is the only one giving the enthusiasts what they want!
Still very much looking forward to a test drive. Hopefully all my doubts will be washed away on that day since I sold two of my other cars to free up funds for the GT4... no turning back now.
PS: a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 now looks like a better investment than ever. IMO that is going to be the '73 RS of our generation.
k up the market for the S, new or used, all IMHO if course?With regards the above posts, 997 4ltr RS Rhd are up at 375k but not necessarily selling at that, JZM have a lovely blue one which is still sitting there at £375k. The left hand drive ones again look good value at £239-£249k Imo.
Next point, I'm sure the GT4 is excellent with the 3.8 but yes I think maybe the GTS with buckets is the sweet spot in the Cayman range.
Next point, I'm sure the GT4 is excellent with the 3.8 but yes I think maybe the GTS with buckets is the sweet spot in the Cayman range.
fioran0 said:
EricE said:
I suspect we'll see quite a few punters chop in their GT4s for something else in the next year or two. I know two people who wanted a GTS and switched their order to comfort spec GT4s for "earlier delivery and more power", they are in for quite a surprise.
Indeed. I expect the demand right now might just be heavily fueled by a combination of the marketing hype and interested parties thinking it is essentially a GTS plus.It may not be too tough to grab one of these as a second owner once the newness wears off and people realise it may be more uncompromising in terms of front nose scrapes and ride quality etc than they had in mind as a GTS plus.
Sierra Mike said:
fioran0 said:
EricE said:
I suspect we'll see quite a few punters chop in their GT4s for something else in the next year or two. I know two people who wanted a GTS and switched their order to comfort spec GT4s for "earlier delivery and more power", they are in for quite a surprise.
Indeed. I expect the demand right now might just be heavily fueled by a combination of the marketing hype and interested parties thinking it is essentially a GTS plus.It may not be too tough to grab one of these as a second owner once the newness wears off and people realise it may be more uncompromising in terms of front nose scrapes and ride quality etc than they had in mind as a GTS plus.
fioran0 said:
Yeah I wasnt subscribing to the 1-2 year turnover either. I suspect it will be much quicker for many too.
BTW, if Porsche produce a factory GT4 race series car folks should just buy one of these and stick plates on it.
How do you do that? I'd be up for giving it a go! Can you imagine how much fun that would be on track? Might be a tad OTT for getting there and back though, thinking about it. I don't fancy having to wear ear defenders to drive it about on the road!BTW, if Porsche produce a factory GT4 race series car folks should just buy one of these and stick plates on it.
J-P said:
fioran0 said:
Yeah I wasnt subscribing to the 1-2 year turnover either. I suspect it will be much quicker for many too.
BTW, if Porsche produce a factory GT4 race series car folks should just buy one of these and stick plates on it.
How do you do that? I'd be up for giving it a go! Can you imagine how much fun that would be on track? Might be a tad OTT for getting there and back though, thinking about it. I don't fancy having to wear ear defenders to drive it about on the road!BTW, if Porsche produce a factory GT4 race series car folks should just buy one of these and stick plates on it.
TheAnimal said:
J-P said:
fioran0 said:
Yeah I wasnt subscribing to the 1-2 year turnover either. I suspect it will be much quicker for many too.
BTW, if Porsche produce a factory GT4 race series car folks should just buy one of these and stick plates on it.
How do you do that? I'd be up for giving it a go! Can you imagine how much fun that would be on track? Might be a tad OTT for getting there and back though, thinking about it. I don't fancy having to wear ear defenders to drive it about on the road!BTW, if Porsche produce a factory GT4 race series car folks should just buy one of these and stick plates on it.
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