Prospective 981 GT4 Owners Discussion Forum.

[BubblesNW]

mollytherocker said:

BubblesNW said:

With reference to the old tech, old interior comments etc. do you think a 996 or 997 GT3 would be more desirable without the ancient PCM 1 or 2 or even 3 as tech has moved on so much it's more of an embarrassment to have instead of a blank panel?

If I do actually get a GT4 I'm thinking of omitting the navigation as tech moves on so quickly the next generation will make the current systems look like a horse and cart compared with an F1 car.

No.

The tech that comes with the car suits the car and is period. Have you ever seen a 964 with a big phone on a coiled lead? Funny as hell and totally awesome!

Had that phone on my 996 Millennium - leather covered of course. Looked dreadful.

[BubblesNW]

Double post

Edited by BubblesNW on Friday 6th March 22:57

[mollytherocker]

BubblesNW said:

Had that phone on my 996 Millennium - leather covered of course. Looked dreadful.

Yes but thats because at that time it was ancient tech. Still funny though and I think its a talking piece.

[keep it lit]

Amathus said:

https://instagram.com/p/z45mTZIx4d/

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iVC2hXKwh80

[georgeq]

keep it lit said:

Amathus said:

https://instagram.com/p/z45mTZIx4d/

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iVC2hXKwh80

They don't call it the baby-GT car for nothing.

[anniesdad]

http://youtu.be/JmjIJ3ni7Mc

Apologies if this has been posted already. 10 minute video on the testdriven channel. Car sounds great, bassy and gutterall.

[BubblesNW]

keep it lit said:

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iVC2hXKwh80

Hi Ade, and how close is your 6RS to stock? Maybe valid if a GT4RS appears some day.

[isaldiri]

mollytherocker said:

The 997 GT3 is a special car in a way that the GT4 doesnt understand.

To be completely fair, that is very hard to say the above without anyone having driven the gt4...? I agree the gt3 is likely to prove be the far more special car but who knows for now...

[mollytherocker]

isaldiri said:

mollytherocker said:

The 997 GT3 is a special car in a way that the GT4 doesnt understand.

To be completely fair, that is very hard to say the above without anyone having driven the gt4...? I agree the gt3 is likely to prove be the far more special car but who knows for now...

Agree that none of us have driven one. Thats obvious.

Thing is, I know what a 996/7 GT3 is, its a road going homologated race car. Its competed in 1000's of races, including Le Mans. For 24 hours. Reliably and quickly. Its engine is truly legendary, up there with the Cosworth DFV and Rolls Royce L series.

The GT4 is a Cayman with a detuned Carrera S engine and a big spoiler.

[Cazooch]

Check out these interesting track times for the GT4 and the GT3 991

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BSDFYQskofc&feat...

http://youtu.be/vm4ajQxImhE

Not bad for a detuned 911 engine

[Littleern]

Cazooch said:

Check out these interesting track times for the GT4 and the GT3 991

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BSDFYQskofc&feat...

http://youtu.be/vm4ajQxImhE

Not bad for a detuned 911 engine

Beat me to it (with the video and the comment)!! Different drivers but WR still shifting manually and with a passenger in tow. I'll Happily take that detuned engine thanks!

[Littleern]

Over on RL they stated that Chris Harris did something like. 2 02.3 in the 991 GT3 and WR just did the same circuit on the same tyres in 2 02.5 with a passenger.I'm sure WR is worth more than a few second though, but still!!

[BubblesNW]

Cazooch said:

Check out these interesting track times for the GT4 and the GT3 991

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BSDFYQskofc&feat...

http://youtu.be/vm4ajQxImhE

Not bad for a detuned 911 engine

OK Walter in a GT4 is 1 second quicker around a circuit than Chris Harris in a 991 GT3 but that probably has more to do with the driver than the car.

[isaldiri]

mollytherocker said:

Thing is, I know what a 996/7 GT3 is, its a road going homologated race car. Its competed in 1000's of races, including Le Mans. For 24 hours. Reliably and quickly. Its engine is truly legendary, up there with the Cosworth DFV and Rolls Royce L series.

The GT4 is a Cayman with a detuned Carrera S engine and a big spoiler.

I disagree with nothing above but..... racing success is not necessarily equivalent with being a great car to drive even if the link between the racing car and road car was far closer than most other platforms. Would a road converted R8LMS or SLS GT3 necessarily be a great road car in the way the older gt3s are? The 6/7 gt3 would be special cars even if they had no successful racing history. There are other great cars with no equivalent racing history either.

[FrankCayman]

anonymous said:

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Amen

[n17ves]

Received confirmation yesterday from my OPC yesterday that they have been allocated a further 3 cars (6 in total) and that I will now be getting a car . No idea if this is the 2nd batch of cars, or that they have simply increased the allocations....either way, pretty excited to be getting a car!

[Littleern]

n17ves said:

Received confirmation yesterday from my OPC yesterday that they have been allocated a further 3 cars (6 in total) and that I will now be getting a car . No idea if this is the 2nd batch of cars, or that they have simply increased the allocations....either way, pretty excited to be getting a car!

Great news and congrats. Hopefully this means other OPC's will follow suit.

Porsche Club America posted this brief review on their facebook site. They have more info and photos also. Sounds like the main issue is the tall gearing, which is what everyone was concerned about:

"End of a long but great day with the GT4—and the big takeaway is that this car is a bullseye. Fantastic on track, great in the canyons, and surprisingly refined on the road. It is fast, its steering is at least as good as the 991 GT3's, the shifter may be Porsche's best to date, it makes great noises, it is remarkably stable yet agile on track (even on Pilot Sport Cup 2s that had seen their best laps before our wave arrived), and is very much a 1:1 car—it feels mechanical and pure, something many enthusiasts have been asking for of late.
So there's a lot to love about the GT4, and very little to dislike—it has met or exceeded expectations, and these are very high given its name and who developed it. I could see wanting to shorten gears 2, 3, 4, 5 and then install a taller 6th for sub-3000-rpm freeway cruising, but I'd want to spend time with the car and someone who knows gears very well before playing with the ratios. But hard pulls to redline in third were telling: You're moving, but the tach needle just doesn't sprint from 5000 or 6000 rpm to redline in the way some Porsches do (yes, we've been spoiled by several incredible cars, every GT3 so far among them). After that, criticisms are few, and largely come down to preferences.
Thanks for all the great questions, and hope we've answer most of them. Will check back through when I've got faster Internet. Photos below are the last quick uploads from here in Portugal, with a few for the trackday and tire nerds—from a trackday and tire nerd. I'll add some nerdy comments to go with the latter."

[mollytherocker]

isaldiri said:

I disagree with nothing above but..... racing success is not necessarily equivalent with being a great car to drive even if the link between the racing car and road car was far closer than most other platforms. Would a road converted R8LMS or SLS GT3 necessarily be a great road car in the way the older gt3s are? The 6/7 gt3 would be special cars even if they had no successful racing history. There are other great cars with no equivalent racing history either.

I totally agree with that of course. A racing car and a road car are very different propositions.

The GT4 will be a great road car, and for most that will be all that matters.

[Littleern]

mollytherocker said:

I totally agree with that of course. A racing car and a road car are very different propositions.

The GT4 will be a great road car, and for most that will be all that matters.

Seems that those that have driven the GT4 thinks it's fantastic on road and track (PCA). What's more important, as others have pointed out, is not the track times but the drive feel. Again, from the PCA it sounds like it is (almost) spot on.

[Mermaid]

FrankCayman said:

anonymous said:

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Amen

& again.