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I cannot really envisage a scenario where a Porsche gt car will not have bucket seats of some form available ,I mean you can go and order a 991 base model with buckets so there is no possible logical reason for some form of bucket not to be available.
Porsche have handled this very badly,the minute the issue with the lwb' was announced they should have made regular buckets (folding ones or whatever) available to order.
Porsche have handled this very badly,the minute the issue with the lwb' was announced they should have made regular buckets (folding ones or whatever) available to order.
franki68 said:
I cannot really envisage a scenario where a Porsche gt car will not have bucket seats of some form available ,I mean you can go and order a 991 base model with buckets so there is no possible logical reason for some form of bucket not to be available.
Porsche have handled this very badly,the minute the issue with the lwb' was announced they should have made regular buckets (folding ones or whatever) available to order.
I thought the GT4 has the special seats from the 918?Porsche have handled this very badly,the minute the issue with the lwb' was announced they should have made regular buckets (folding ones or whatever) available to order.
Have a read of page 207 of this thread 
EricE said:
It does but as it turns out they are not quite as desirable as everybody thought.
Amazing how when something becomes unavailable it somehow becomes undesirable at precisely the same time. I will be happy to have them after sitting in them. In my opinion they lift the look of the interior the moment the doors are opened.
Why are the adaptive 18-way electric seats 'only' a £923 option over standard sport seats+ when on other Cayman's they are £1914 extra over sport seats+. Has the cost of these seats recently been reduced on the GT4 configurator? I can't remember what the seat option prices were a week ago but i'm sure the 18-way electrics were same price as the 918 buckets eg each was an extra £1914? Maybe i'm wrong or have Porsche reduced the price to take some of the orders away from buckets.
Edited by stewy49 on Friday 12th June 21:05
Edited by stewy49 on Friday 12th June 21:06
stewy49 said:
Why are the adaptive 18-way electric seats 'only' a £923 option over standard sport seats+ when on other Cayman's they are £1914 extra over sport seats+. Has the cost of these seats recently been reduced on the GT4 configurator? I can't remember what the seat option prices were a week ago but i'm sure the 18-way electrics were same price as the 918 buckets eg each was an extra £1914? Maybe i'm wrong or have Porsche reduced the price to take some of the orders away from buckets.
Normal,when I bought the 997 turbo the adaptive seats were half the price of the same adaptive seats on the normal 997.Edited by stewy49 on Friday 12th June 21:05
Edited by stewy49 on Friday 12th June 21:06
Do not try to induce logic into any discussion about Porsche option prices.
lsb said:
Amazing how when something becomes unavailable it somehow becomes undesirable at precisely the same time.
I will be happy to have them after sitting in them. In my opinion they lift the look of the interior the moment the doors are opened.
More to do with the fact that the first owner reviews are appearing and the lwb's have come in for a fair bit of criticism from most of the owners.i was happy to accept a ten week delay to get them,but after reading several reviews I'm debating whether or not they are needed.I will be happy to have them after sitting in them. In my opinion they lift the look of the interior the moment the doors are opened.
they unquestionably look superb and lift the interior ,not sure how superb they look when you get out and have a rolled up sleeping bag lying on them because you need it to stop backache .one should carefully consider how and where the car is being used ,most of the owners are in countries with better roads than the UK and the firmness of the ride is universally noted.
franki68 said:
More to do with the fact that the first owner reviews are appearing and the lwb's have come in for a fair bit of criticism from most of the owners.i was happy to accept a ten week delay to get them,but after reading several reviews I'm debating whether or not they are needed.
they unquestionably look superb and lift the interior ,not sure how superb they look when you get out and have a rolled up sleeping bag lying on them because you need it to stop backache .one should carefully consider how and where the car is being used ,most of the owners are in countries with better roads than the UK and the firmness of the ride is universally noted.
I would be very wary of "owner reviews" when it comes to something as subjective as seats. In my opinion many people option seats that do not suit them in the first place - due to their size/weight, a bad back or a lack of flexibility in accessing the interior of the car. After receiving the car they blame the seat rather than the lack of thought in the ordering process. The seats do not adjust for rake - this will always cause them to be somewhat compromised in the comfort department.they unquestionably look superb and lift the interior ,not sure how superb they look when you get out and have a rolled up sleeping bag lying on them because you need it to stop backache .one should carefully consider how and where the car is being used ,most of the owners are in countries with better roads than the UK and the firmness of the ride is universally noted.
Pick an article that you have bought recently and rate highly. Google it and check out a couple of review sites. There are bound to be at least a few negative reviews no matter how good the product is - some people love to find fault in everything....
I would rather trust my own opinion or at least gut feeling. Beyond that I would take on the opinions of the journalists whose opinions I trust the most. They after all, have sat in more bucket seats than most and should manage to spot a seat that is downright uncomfortable from the get go. I do not recall reading comments such as these.
I don't believe the car was designed to be a luxurious tourer. It has a very firm ride, not a lot of ground clearance at the front and a noisy transmission; nearly all reviews note this.
You are correct about the state of the UK roads. Having different seats will not make the road surface better or the ride less firm though. I think a lot of people may find the car tiring on the UK roads no matter what seats they have fitted.
lsb said:
I would be very wary of "owner reviews" when it comes to something as subjective as seats. In my opinion many people option seats that do not suit them in the first place - due to their size/weight, a bad back or a lack of flexibility in accessing the interior of the car. After receiving the car they blame the seat rather than the lack of thought in the ordering process. The seats do not adjust for rake - this will always cause them to be somewhat compromised in the comfort department.
Pick an article that you have bought recently and rate highly. Google it and check out a couple of review sites. There are bound to be at least a few negative reviews no matter how good the product is - some people love to find fault in everything....
I would rather trust my own opinion or at least gut feeling. Beyond that I would take on the opinions of the journalists whose opinions I trust the most. They after all, have sat in more bucket seats than most and should manage to spot a seat that is downright uncomfortable from the get go. I do not recall reading comments such as these.
I don't believe the car was designed to be a luxurious tourer. It has a very firm ride, not a lot of ground clearance at the front and a noisy transmission; nearly all reviews note this.
You are correct about the state of the UK roads. Having different seats will not make the road surface better or the ride less firm though. I think a lot of people may find the car tiring on the UK roads no matter what seats they have fitted.
I agree the seat won't make a car ride better ,but a bit of cushioning would help slightly.Pick an article that you have bought recently and rate highly. Google it and check out a couple of review sites. There are bound to be at least a few negative reviews no matter how good the product is - some people love to find fault in everything....
I would rather trust my own opinion or at least gut feeling. Beyond that I would take on the opinions of the journalists whose opinions I trust the most. They after all, have sat in more bucket seats than most and should manage to spot a seat that is downright uncomfortable from the get go. I do not recall reading comments such as these.
I don't believe the car was designed to be a luxurious tourer. It has a very firm ride, not a lot of ground clearance at the front and a noisy transmission; nearly all reviews note this.
You are correct about the state of the UK roads. Having different seats will not make the road surface better or the ride less firm though. I think a lot of people may find the car tiring on the UK roads no matter what seats they have fitted.
I disagree about owners views compared to journalists ,living with a car is a completely different experience from having the run of one for a few hours on a racetrack,and journalists are dependent on the car maker for their living.
Journalist reviews help point me towards what cars I am interested in ,but when deciding on parting with my cash I value the input of current owners .I rarely buy without a test drive unless like in this instance with the gt4 it is impossible to drive before buying,but based on my experiences of driving Porsche gt cars I think this will be a stupendous car .
Of the owner reviews so far on.y one person has completely praised the seats ,and most of the others have had to add some form of cushioning to make them acceptable.
My car is still specced with buckets ,with the latest info regarding deliveries that I am aware of ,it makes no difference whether the car has buckets or not, so I have to decide whether the seat will suit me or not,the issue of availability is irrelevant to me ,it is not something I will make my decision on which is what you suggested in your previous post (generally not at me personally obviously)
The owner reviews state the seats aRe comfortable to start with,they become uncomfortable after a bit of use,I think it would be unwise to completely ignore such comments .
Everyone has to make their own minds up ,about what they think will best suit them,the more information available ,the better the quality of that decision.
franki68 said:
I agree the seat won't make a car ride better ,but a bit of cushioning would help slightly.
I disagree about owners views compared to journalists ,living with a car is a completely different experience from having the run of one for a few hours on a racetrack,and journalists are dependent on the car maker for their living.
Journalist reviews help point me towards what cars I am interested in ,but when deciding on parting with my cash I value the input of current owners .I rarely buy without a test drive unless like in this instance with the gt4 it is impossible to drive before buying,but based on my experiences of driving Porsche gt cars I think this will be a stupendous car .
Of the owner reviews so far on.y one person has completely praised the seats ,and most of the others have had to add some form of cushioning to make them acceptable.
My car is still specced with buckets ,with the latest info regarding deliveries that I am aware of ,it makes no difference whether the car has buckets or not, so I have to decide whether the seat will suit me or not,the issue of availability is irrelevant to me ,it is not something I will make my decision on which is what you suggested in your previous post (generally not at me personally obviously)
The owner reviews state the seats aRe comfortable to start with,they become uncomfortable after a bit of use,I think it would be unwise to completely ignore such comments .
Everyone has to make their own minds up ,about what they think will best suit them,the more information available ,the better the quality of that decision.
I would agree that all information is good information but perhaps add the caveat that some requires a little more filtering I disagree about owners views compared to journalists ,living with a car is a completely different experience from having the run of one for a few hours on a racetrack,and journalists are dependent on the car maker for their living.
Journalist reviews help point me towards what cars I am interested in ,but when deciding on parting with my cash I value the input of current owners .I rarely buy without a test drive unless like in this instance with the gt4 it is impossible to drive before buying,but based on my experiences of driving Porsche gt cars I think this will be a stupendous car .
Of the owner reviews so far on.y one person has completely praised the seats ,and most of the others have had to add some form of cushioning to make them acceptable.
My car is still specced with buckets ,with the latest info regarding deliveries that I am aware of ,it makes no difference whether the car has buckets or not, so I have to decide whether the seat will suit me or not,the issue of availability is irrelevant to me ,it is not something I will make my decision on which is what you suggested in your previous post (generally not at me personally obviously)
The owner reviews state the seats aRe comfortable to start with,they become uncomfortable after a bit of use,I think it would be unwise to completely ignore such comments .
Everyone has to make their own minds up ,about what they think will best suit them,the more information available ,the better the quality of that decision.
In my previous post I was trying to point out that it is interesting to note how some people react when an option of their choice is withdrawn. At this point some feel the need to convince themselves that they actually never did want the option in the first place. How much of this discussion would take place if the lwb's were readily available ?
It is a free market and as you rightly say everyone should make their own choice. I do find it interesting how the views of customer base shifts with availability though.
franki68 said:
More to do with the fact that the first owner reviews are appearing and the lwb's have come in for a fair bit of criticism from most of the owners.i was happy to accept a ten week delay to get them,but after reading several reviews I'm debating whether or not they are needed.
they unquestionably look superb and lift the interior ,not sure how superb they look when you get out and have a rolled up sleeping bag lying on them because you need it to stop backache .one should carefully consider how and where the car is being used ,most of the owners are in countries with better roads than the UK and the firmness of the ride is universally noted.
You have me misread here. To clarify, The seat cushion lifts out to access the buckle for the 6 point harness. I put the cushion under the seat cushion. There is no way To see this at all. Also, you must know that i have a confirmed medical condition with my lower back, and thus i am more sensitive to this than most.they unquestionably look superb and lift the interior ,not sure how superb they look when you get out and have a rolled up sleeping bag lying on them because you need it to stop backache .one should carefully consider how and where the car is being used ,most of the owners are in countries with better roads than the UK and the firmness of the ride is universally noted.
pegon said:
You have me misread here. To clarify, The seat cushion lifts out to access the buckle for the 6 point harness. I put the cushion under the seat cushion. There is no way To see this at all. Also, you must know that i have a confirmed medical condition with my lower back, and thus i am more sensitive to this than most.
Tbh I wasn't talking about you specifically ,but thanks for clarifying where the cushion goes.PorscheGT4 said:
I am still having the 918 style, many people don't like normal GT2 folding, I love them, so 1 review says not nice, he raises the cushion and now says perfect
918 seats are a must have imo.
I agree, also you get the elec height adjust the 918 style, as on RS? but no tilt adjust, although you can, but you have to order the base from the normal sport bucket....bit of agg.......918 seats are a must have imo.
any one ordered a early car with the normal seats..?
Edited by APOLO1 on Saturday 13th June 10:57
960Spyder said:
I've changed my spec from 918 buckets (code P11) to 18 way adaptives (P07) due to -
1. Retains July build slot
2. They will be more comfortable for European trips than the buckets with rumoured comfort issues
3. I can have heating
4. £700 less (with heating included)
5. I'll never track it, so cage and buckets are just not necessary for me.
I sometimes have back issues and cannot risk the seats being uncomfortable, although I have to say the 918 seats look great and go very well with the theme of the car.
I would have gone for heated GT2 folding buckets then, I cannot think any one thinks Sports seats are more comfortable, having owned 4 porkers with all types of seats GT2 folding are just the nicest to sit it esp long distance.1. Retains July build slot
2. They will be more comfortable for European trips than the buckets with rumoured comfort issues
3. I can have heating
4. £700 less (with heating included)
5. I'll never track it, so cage and buckets are just not necessary for me.
I sometimes have back issues and cannot risk the seats being uncomfortable, although I have to say the 918 seats look great and go very well with the theme of the car.
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