no one saying much about the £375k RS 4.0

[hunter 66]

I doubt it will be driven anyway , well not on track .......... amazed Porsche does not double the price initially for these "rare" models ......strange business sense as clearly the market can support it in these times of money printing.

[CheesyFootballs]

5517 said:

Absolutely!!!


Having said that if anyone is after a LHD 4.0 I can help so get in touch to discuss.
EU car, great spec, low KM's.

I'd quite happily have a LHD.

Would a V6 Exige and a packet of Wotsits suffice as a px?
That's all all I can offer, unfortunately.


(The Wotsits are the rare prawn cocktail variety, unopened of course)

[DiscoColin]

Robbo66 said:

Having driven both, I find it staggering that a 4.0 is touted at around £250k more than a 991 GT3.

RHD UK 991 GT3s - around 200. RHD UK 4 litres - around 30 left in the country, if that...

One is the last manual Porsche 911 GT car, the other ... if rumours are to be believed is about to be thoroughly eclipsed by the 991 RS in terms of performance and desirability. In short, there is plenty of supply to meet the demand for the 991 GT3, but negligible supply to meet the market for the 4 litre.

I am staggered that you would find it staggering

[5517]

DiscoColin said:

RHD UK 991 GT3s - around 200. RHD UK 4 litres - around 30 left in the country, if that...

One is the last manual Porsche 911 GT car, the other ... if rumours are to be believed is about to be thoroughly eclipsed by the 991 RS in terms of performance and desirability. In short, there is plenty of supply to meet the demand for the 991 GT3, but negligible supply to meet the market for the 4 litre.

I am staggered that you would find it staggering

Well... You missed the bit where Robbo 66 said "Having driven both".

The 991 GT3RS that is about to totally eclipse the 991 GT3 is going to be £200K + day one for the 30-40 cars that land here of which most will disappear never to be seen again.


Supply of the 991 GT3 does not meet demand as proven by the premiums of nearing 30% now on some cars.

Edited by 5517 on Saturday 24th January 19:29

[Wozy68]

Magic919 said:

It's whose, not who's. Carry on.

Really?

[DT398]

Wozy68 said:

Magic919 said:

It's whose, not who's. Carry on.

Really?

'fraid so!

[APOLO1]

DiscoColin said:

RHD UK 991 GT3s - around 200. RHD UK 4 litres - around 30 left in the country, if that...

One is the last manual Porsche 911 GT car, the other ... if rumours are to be believed is about to be thoroughly eclipsed by the 991 RS in terms of performance and desirability. In short, there is plenty of supply to meet the demand for the 991 GT3, but negligible supply to meet the market for the 4 litre.

I am staggered that you would find it staggering

167OPC 991GT3s, as for the 4.0RHDs, only 27 to start with, I would say single Figs left in UK......

[keep it lit]

APOLO1 said:

167OPC 991GT3s, as for the 4.0RHDs, only 27 to start with, I would say single Figs left in UK......

total v UK figures ?


agree on low no c16 still on these shores tho...

[WindyMiller67]

Was anyone on here driving a black one between Wonersh and Shalford (near Guildford) around lunchtime today?

[DiscoColin]

5517 said:

DiscoColin said:

RHD UK 991 GT3s - around 200. RHD UK 4 litres - around 30 left in the country, if that...

One is the last manual Porsche 911 GT car, the other ... if rumours are to be believed is about to be thoroughly eclipsed by the 991 RS in terms of performance and desirability. In short, there is plenty of supply to meet the demand for the 991 GT3, but negligible supply to meet the market for the 4 litre.

I am staggered that you would find it staggering

Well... You missed the bit where Robbo 66 said "Having driven both".

I didn't miss it at all. What the hell has the driving opinion of a single PHer got to do with the value of one rare car over another? Just because an opinion is valid doesn't necessarily make it relevant - it is still only an opinion. Conversely, I am just talking about the safest general rule of thumb for car prices : rarity + desirability + historical significance usually = value. Desirability is key, especially when you consider the number of serial GT3 buyers who had no interest in buying the car when it was announced (and still don't). The 991 is of course also tainted by its early reliability issues and blanket ignored by everyone who likes to change their own gears (closing a portion of the market to the car. Regardless of whether you think it might be their loss, it doesn't change the fact that they don't want one).

5517 said:

Supply of the 991 GT3 does not meet demand as proven by the premiums of nearing 30% now on some cars.

The supply/demand argument hinges on what is in the market and how quickly they sell. There has always been a choice of 991s in the market since deliveries started, as there is today. As there will be tomorrow. Give it a few years (not least to determine whether all of the new systems on the car turn out to have further issues) and that may change (and I think probably will). But right now, there is not a shortage given how few cars there are in the country. The argument better supported are that cars are overpriced by sellers prepared to wait longer for a buyer.

All GT3s have always been a comparatively safe place to put your money (even in the days before the current euphoria they were still the slowest depreciating car that the company made). But the ones that collectors want that you cannot readily buy are always going to be the ones with insanity pricing. Not the ones that they made many more of and which are always available.

[Robbo66]

Opinions vary, as does the 'relevance' and weight of that opinion. I have driven both, and have one of them, therefore I would suggest my opinion 'relevant'.

Plenty on here have 'opinions' that could be considered 'irrelevant', having driven neither. They tend to be the most vocal, attracting at best a skim over, but more often just a scroll down. It's still and opinion though, just without a huge amount of foundation, IMO obviously

[MPOWERBULLA]

Truly awesome RS I will Say the best I've seen and if I had a spare £375k it would be mine!!!.....but I ain't , but there will be someone out there who has..

[5517]

Robbo66 said:

Opinions vary, as does the 'relevance' and weight of that opinion. I have driven both, and have one of them, therefore I would suggest my opinion 'relevant'.

Plenty on here have 'opinions' that could be considered 'irrelevant', having driven neither. They tend to be the most vocal, attracting at best a skim over, but more often just a scroll down. It's still an opinion though, just without a huge amount of foundation, IMO obviously

Only owners know just how very very very special the 991 GT3 is.

[keep it lit]

5517 said:

Robbo66 said:

Opinions vary, as does the 'relevance' and weight of that opinion. I have driven both, and have one of them, therefore I would suggest my opinion 'relevant'.

Plenty on here have 'opinions' that could be considered 'irrelevant', having driven neither. They tend to be the most vocal, attracting at best a skim over, but more often just a scroll down. It's still an opinion though, just without a huge amount of foundation, IMO obviously

Only owners know just how very very very special the 991 GT3 is.

All the GT3 models have been very very very special... every single car!

... and yes I've been in and driven a 991GT3 road & Track. Awesome !!

[5517]

5517 said:

Having said that if anyone is after a LHD 4.0 I can help so get in touch to discuss.
EU car, great spec, low KM's.

Thanks to all who enquired about the 4.0.
It is now sold and on its way to the UK

[WCZ]

£400k next and they'll still sell, I think.