997 Turbo upgrade to 9e 28 by Nine Excellence (pic heavy)
Discussion
TB993tt said:
I've been trying to hint to you in previous posts that much of what "tuners" tell you should be taken with a pinch of salt, for many years snake oil has been well and truly force fed into us poor punters.
Firstly Parr Motorsport are NOT and never have been an "agent" for RS Tuning. Parr's relationship was with Cargraphic. The Cargraphic car whose pic is on their website had two versions of engine tune both with working VTGs. The original tune was 624PS/826NM standard internals but Secan intercoolers to allow the high power reliably (in terms of maintaining the power through IAT control). The second rebuild had different pistons and Carillos and was around 680PS/900NM, this was the engine which propelled that 1519kg car (in the pic) from 0-200 in 9.1s and 0-300 in 23.8s (in the Sport Auto test). RS Tuning have not built any other engines for CG since then in fact I understand they don't speak much now.
So you thinking that you may have been "considering" an RS Tuning build is wide of the mark, like I said many "tuners" feed you "stuff". You say above that RS Tuning wanted you to use the CG 200 cell exhaust ? I can tell you that RS do not use 200 cell cats, they only use 100 cell Motorsport (expensive) HJS cats. My guess is that if you had gone with Parr you would have got a kit put together by CG with a program from either Parr or CG's new program supplier, sure they all like to say it is from RS but whilst it may be similar and I'm sure CG know a lot of RS's suppliers it ain't the same as RS want premium prices for their proprietary components.
Lastly Ken did not struggle with VTGs pulling timing for 6-7 years because I don't think Ken even owned a Porsche 7 years ago and 9E didn't exist until 4 years ago
Sorry should hav said 4-5 years re 9e. I've been aware of the issues since your monster VTG thread. Re Parr I'm disappointed if you're right as they never mentioned CG just RS. There was a discussion with them about inter coolers and exhaust and they always mentioned RS. I'd have been suing them if you are correct so pleased I went with 9e. Sorry newby to this modding scene so did not pick up the hint lol!Firstly Parr Motorsport are NOT and never have been an "agent" for RS Tuning. Parr's relationship was with Cargraphic. The Cargraphic car whose pic is on their website had two versions of engine tune both with working VTGs. The original tune was 624PS/826NM standard internals but Secan intercoolers to allow the high power reliably (in terms of maintaining the power through IAT control). The second rebuild had different pistons and Carillos and was around 680PS/900NM, this was the engine which propelled that 1519kg car (in the pic) from 0-200 in 9.1s and 0-300 in 23.8s (in the Sport Auto test). RS Tuning have not built any other engines for CG since then in fact I understand they don't speak much now.
So you thinking that you may have been "considering" an RS Tuning build is wide of the mark, like I said many "tuners" feed you "stuff". You say above that RS Tuning wanted you to use the CG 200 cell exhaust ? I can tell you that RS do not use 200 cell cats, they only use 100 cell Motorsport (expensive) HJS cats. My guess is that if you had gone with Parr you would have got a kit put together by CG with a program from either Parr or CG's new program supplier, sure they all like to say it is from RS but whilst it may be similar and I'm sure CG know a lot of RS's suppliers it ain't the same as RS want premium prices for their proprietary components.
Lastly Ken did not struggle with VTGs pulling timing for 6-7 years because I don't think Ken even owned a Porsche 7 years ago and 9E didn't exist until 4 years ago
For the sake of clarity from 9e position, what we have done with vtgs is different to other tuners. Yes fitting expensive intercoolers allows you to run the car harder (it is why we don't do any tuning without at least fitting gt2rs intercoolers) but we took a different approach. Intercoolers in our opinion are a bandaid, a very important one of course.
What we examined is why the iats rose/timing retard/boost dropping on vtg cars once you get into 4th gear etc. We worked in conjunction with another Company, conducted extensive testing, and between us created a component which significantly reduces the above issues. That cost 9e five figures in R&D and development.
We don't sell the solution, nor do we discuss what the solution is. It has given us a serious competitive edge, so much so that the only way a customer can have this solution is by purchasing the appropriate 9e package. And from our perspective is will also work on later generations, despite Porsche making it even harder in their quest for more instant response.
We have been through 3 generations of this solution with one customer. The first generation didn't work very well, the second generation made a significant improvement, so much that the solution ran 201gps at 1.6 miles at Vmax event. The latter generation of the solution, which ran at the last vmax, ran 201gps again but in only 1.35 miles. We reduced iats by over 8 degrees across the board by changing the component between generation 2 and 3 of the solution.
The customer kindly allowed for his car to be used as a test car and benefited in that he did not pay for the updates. No changes were made to anything else between those two runs at Vmax. Simply swopped out the gen 2 component for the gen 3 component. No change to tuning or any other hardware.
It is also not a question that we understate hp - we never state it in the first place, given only a guide. The solution above does not generate more hp as such, what it does is retain the hp, just like a good intercooler does. Instead we prefer to prove the packages in the public arena, either with our own cars or customers.
K.
What we examined is why the iats rose/timing retard/boost dropping on vtg cars once you get into 4th gear etc. We worked in conjunction with another Company, conducted extensive testing, and between us created a component which significantly reduces the above issues. That cost 9e five figures in R&D and development.
We don't sell the solution, nor do we discuss what the solution is. It has given us a serious competitive edge, so much so that the only way a customer can have this solution is by purchasing the appropriate 9e package. And from our perspective is will also work on later generations, despite Porsche making it even harder in their quest for more instant response.
We have been through 3 generations of this solution with one customer. The first generation didn't work very well, the second generation made a significant improvement, so much that the solution ran 201gps at 1.6 miles at Vmax event. The latter generation of the solution, which ran at the last vmax, ran 201gps again but in only 1.35 miles. We reduced iats by over 8 degrees across the board by changing the component between generation 2 and 3 of the solution.
The customer kindly allowed for his car to be used as a test car and benefited in that he did not pay for the updates. No changes were made to anything else between those two runs at Vmax. Simply swopped out the gen 2 component for the gen 3 component. No change to tuning or any other hardware.
It is also not a question that we understate hp - we never state it in the first place, given only a guide. The solution above does not generate more hp as such, what it does is retain the hp, just like a good intercooler does. Instead we prefer to prove the packages in the public arena, either with our own cars or customers.
K.
IMIA said:
Thanks David. Can you keep us updated?
As an aside how's your GT2 compared to your old GT3 RS?!
Sure will update thoughts when they enter mind..As an aside how's your GT2 compared to your old GT3 RS?!
The GT2 is now set up with exactly same suspension, wheels, gearshift, steering, wheels & slicks as the GT3RS plus has 150bhp more so great fun as you can imagine.
Just can't wait for Spa next month. Have fitted it with 4 camera system and data logger and in next month or so will post a load of videos on line of Mr Wilds doing his stuff around all the best tracks in UK and Europe. Should help us all keep on the black stuff:-)
IMIA said:
http://shop.jzmporsche.com/porsche-carbon-ceramic-...
Has anyone tried the surface transforms ceramics? ^^^^
Or how about these bad boys from Sicom (they are the company that can do a refurb of your existing PCCBs) run at about £10.5K
TB993tt said:
Lastly Ken did not struggle with VTGs pulling timing for 6-7 years because I don't think Ken even owned a Porsche 7 years ago and 9E didn't exist until 4 years ago
Actually my friend longer in Porsche ownership. 9e is 4 years old and we celebrated in testing by running over 370kph for several minutes with a top speed in excess of 403kph (250mph) in private testing recently. Just don't expect us to 500kph to celebrate when we reach 5 years
Nineexcellence said:
Actually my friend longer in Porsche ownership.
9e is 4 years old and we celebrated in testing by running over 370kph for several minutes with a top speed in excess of 403kph (250mph) in private testing recently. Just don't expect us to 500kph to celebrate when we reach 5 years
Where is this 20 mile straight, don't tell me you shipped it over to the Bonneville salt flats 9e is 4 years old and we celebrated in testing by running over 370kph for several minutes with a top speed in excess of 403kph (250mph) in private testing recently. Just don't expect us to 500kph to celebrate when we reach 5 years
Be careful out there you crazy mother f
kers 
. Dave Sums said:
IMIA said:
Thanks David. Can you keep us updated?
As an aside how's your GT2 compared to your old GT3 RS?!
Sure will update thoughts when they enter mind..As an aside how's your GT2 compared to your old GT3 RS?!
The GT2 is now set up with exactly same suspension, wheels, gearshift, steering, wheels & slicks as the GT3RS plus has 150bhp more so great fun as you can imagine.
Just can't wait for Spa next month. Have fitted it with 4 camera system and data logger and in next month or so will post a load of videos on line of Mr Wilds doing his stuff around all the best tracks in UK and Europe. Should help us all keep on the black stuff:-)
Nineexcellence said:
TB993tt said:
Lastly Ken did not struggle with VTGs pulling timing for 6-7 years because I don't think Ken even owned a Porsche 7 years ago and 9E didn't exist until 4 years ago
Actually my friend longer in Porsche ownership. 9e is 4 years old and we celebrated in testing by running over 370kph for several minutes with a top speed in excess of 403kph (250mph) in private testing recently. Just don't expect us to 500kph to celebrate when we reach 5 years
The Hennessey Venom GT hit 270.49mph at the Kennedy Space Center on February 14th, thus becoming the fastest production car in the world by beating the Bugatti Veyron Super Sport's previous record of 269.86 mph.
IMIA said:
Dave Sums said:
IMIA said:
Thanks David. Can you keep us updated?
As an aside how's your GT2 compared to your old GT3 RS?!
Sure will update thoughts when they enter mind..As an aside how's your GT2 compared to your old GT3 RS?!
The GT2 is now set up with exactly same suspension, wheels, gearshift, steering, wheels & slicks as the GT3RS plus has 150bhp more so great fun as you can imagine.
Just can't wait for Spa next month. Have fitted it with 4 camera system and data logger and in next month or so will post a load of videos on line of Mr Wilds doing his stuff around all the best tracks in UK and Europe. Should help us all keep on the black stuff:-)
TB993tt said:
IMIA said:
Mr RS should defo have a word with his UK agent Parr Motorsport. Lawrence at Parrs own words were, "RS tuning modify your OEM turbos and fix vanes in fully open position. Result is not as wide power band but when you're in the zone above 3-4000 rpm they really come into their own and the car is more urgent." Their demo car was a peach but God knows what he was talking about re fixing the variable vanes as he sounded pretty convincing - maybe Mr RS does not want to give his trade secrets away or may be they reprogramme the vanes to stay open for more time? Who knows? Ken Napier will not tell me how they've managed to find a solution to their VTGS pulling timing lol (a problem they struggled with for 6-7 years with VTGS which initially put me off tuning my VTGS) so these guys do all keep trade R&D secrets to themselves! As I mentioned earlier in this thread I was all set to go with Parr but the allure of the GT2 turbos was too hard to resist. 9e were also a bit more flexible. By way of example RS Tuning did not want me to use a Europipe 100 cel stage 2 exhaust with their package as they'd not tested it (totally understandable but I felt I was getting an inferior exhaust with their Cargraphic 200 cel exhaust which was all that was on offer with their 997.1 stage 4 kit). Something may have got lost in the translation on both the VTG turbos and exhaust as later after I'd sent the car to 9e instead Parr did say they would have worked something out on the Europipe exhaust. Hopefully see you and your beasty at VMAX on 7th March?
I've been trying to hint to you in previous posts that much of what "tuners" tell you should be taken with a pinch of salt, for many years snake oil has been well and truly force fed into us poor punters.Firstly Parr Motorsport are NOT and never have been an "agent" for RS Tuning. Parr's relationship was with Cargraphic. The Cargraphic car whose pic is on their website had two versions of engine tune both with working VTGs. The original tune was 624PS/826NM standard internals but Secan intercoolers to allow the high power reliably (in terms of maintaining the power through IAT control). The second rebuild had different pistons and Carillos and was around 680PS/900NM, this was the engine which propelled that 1519kg car (in the pic) from 0-200 in 9.1s and 0-300 in 23.8s (in the Sport Auto test). RS Tuning have not built any other engines for CG since then in fact I understand they don't speak much now.
So you thinking that you may have been "considering" an RS Tuning build is wide of the mark, like I said many "tuners" feed you "stuff". You say above that RS Tuning wanted you to use the CG 200 cell exhaust ? I can tell you that RS do not use 200 cell cats, they only use 100 cell Motorsport (expensive) HJS cats. My guess is that if you had gone with Parr you would have got a kit put together by CG with a program from either Parr or CG's new program supplier, sure they all like to say it is from RS but whilst it may be similar and I'm sure CG know a lot of RS's suppliers it ain't the same as RS want premium prices for their proprietary components.
Lastly Ken did not struggle with VTGs pulling timing for 6-7 years because I don't think Ken even owned a Porsche 7 years ago and 9E didn't exist until 4 years ago
Also there was a long discussion about intercoolers and which exhaust I would use over a period of 6 months. The guys at Parr specifically said they would have to check with RS Tuning on the intercoolers and exhaust not Cargraphic as their software had not been tested with those bits of hardware so they would not be able to then guarantee the 624 ps stage 4 package.
Parr runs Carrera Cup GB and one of their drivers is doing pretty well in Pro Am 2:
http://www.porsche.com/uk/motorsportandevents/moto...
http://www.porsche.com/uk/motorsportandevents/moto...
I can't see guys with this sort of pedigree pulling the wool over their customers eyes. In fact I'd have more faith in Parr or 9e for that matter than I would an OPC in terms of looking after my car moving forward. I hadn't appreciated Parr has been around as a Porsche Motorsport specialist for 30 + years.
IMIA said:
Hi Toby, been doing a bit of research on Parr and whilst I accept they may not be RS Tuning agents I'm pretty sure they have a good relationship with RS Tuning. Firstly their car which I drove is brilliant. http://www.parr-uk.co.uk/Parr%20997%20Turbo%20feat...
Also there was a long discussion about intercoolers and which exhaust I would use over a period of 6 months. The guys at Parr specifically said they would have to check with RS Tuning on the intercoolers and exhaust not Cargraphic as their software had not been tested with those bits of hardware so they would not be able to then guarantee the 624 ps stage 4 package.
I don't know Parr and from what you say they do seem a decent outfit. I was pointing out that Parr will deal with RS through CG, RS have only "built" two engines for CG and haven't actually done anything with CG for a few years since they appeared to stop talking -for reasons unkown but CG went through a fair transition with the Schnarr brothers splitting the company.Also there was a long discussion about intercoolers and which exhaust I would use over a period of 6 months. The guys at Parr specifically said they would have to check with RS Tuning on the intercoolers and exhaust not Cargraphic as their software had not been tested with those bits of hardware so they would not be able to then guarantee the 624 ps stage 4 package.
This silver car in your link has a Cargraphic engine build from what I can see, 200 cell HD cats (like I said before RS only use 100 cell Motorsport), carbon air pipe (RS don't use these), larger throttle body - RS tested these and doesn't use them at this level of tune, and most tellingly it states it has larger intercoolers yet the price for the kit is £20K ? The price from CG when RS developed this kit was 47592 Euro + MwSt and in late 2013 that would have been £48K !!! this is with the ridiculously expensive intercoolers and we (Parr included by the looks) know RS would not sell the kit without their coolers.
Doesn't quite add up does it.
TB993tt said:
IMIA said:
Hi Toby, been doing a bit of research on Parr and whilst I accept they may not be RS Tuning agents I'm pretty sure they have a good relationship with RS Tuning. Firstly their car which I drove is brilliant. http://www.parr-uk.co.uk/Parr%20997%20Turbo%20feat...
Also there was a long discussion about intercoolers and which exhaust I would use over a period of 6 months. The guys at Parr specifically said they would have to check with RS Tuning on the intercoolers and exhaust not Cargraphic as their software had not been tested with those bits of hardware so they would not be able to then guarantee the 624 ps stage 4 package.
I don't know Parr and from what you say they do seem a decent outfit. I was pointing out that Parr will deal with RS through CG, RS have only "built" two engines for CG and haven't actually done anything with CG for a few years since they appeared to stop talking -for reasons unkown but CG went through a fair transition with the Schnarr brothers splitting the company.Also there was a long discussion about intercoolers and which exhaust I would use over a period of 6 months. The guys at Parr specifically said they would have to check with RS Tuning on the intercoolers and exhaust not Cargraphic as their software had not been tested with those bits of hardware so they would not be able to then guarantee the 624 ps stage 4 package.
This silver car in your link has a Cargraphic engine build from what I can see, 200 cell HD cats (like I said before RS only use 100 cell Motorsport), carbon air pipe (RS don't use these), larger throttle body - RS tested these and doesn't use them at this level of tune, and most tellingly it states it has larger intercoolers yet the price for the kit is £20K ? The price from CG when RS developed this kit was 47592 Euro + MwSt and in late 2013 that would have been £48K !!! this is with the ridiculously expensive intercoolers and we (Parr included by the looks) know RS would not sell the kit without their coolers.
Doesn't quite add up does it.
With Secans it would be £36k + VAT ish less the cost of the GT2 RS coolers. Remember 997 turbo/GT2 is now a very old platform so I can understand why the Likes of CG etc have moved onto tuning 991/Cayman/Boxster/Cayenne etc. All those carbon bits and throttle bodies etc are CG bits available on their website. RS Tuning do the bulk of the work i.e. provide the software and modify the turbos on CG's packages or they did. As you're aware obviously same on engine build where RS Tuning carry out the builds. I don't thing the bulk of CGs work would be based on engine builds. Cg's in the business of selling maps and exhausts mostly - thats their bread and butter so it doesn't surprise me that only two cars were prepared by RS Tuning for them.
I reckon the 624 PS car CG were touting around various tests was really built 680 PS car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMnPzRYiqbk
The Parr car I drove basically has the same engine as above youtube clip and whilst its not got all the carbon fibre lightening by 150kgs its certainly not as good or fast as the CG car in the clip. You can't have what I'd describe as a really fast car without building the engine - no chance.
Edited by IMIA on Tuesday 10th February 12:59
IMIA said:
it doesn't surprise me that only two cars were prepared by RS Tuning for them.
I reckon the 624 PS car CG were touting around various tests was really built 680 PS car.
Just to clarify it was 2 engine builds (on the same car) which RS did. The black car in the vid started off with 624PS/82XNM and got TUV approval, they then developed it further mindful that that the rods were at risk since other customer's cars (RS Customers) had bent their rods at these levels. The further development was different pistons and Carillos and tuned up to ~680PS it was in this level of tune that Sport Auto tested it in that group test with 0-300 in 23.8s - they wrote 624PS in the specs but that was because the cars had to be full TUV approved.....I reckon the 624 PS car CG were touting around various tests was really built 680 PS car.
This car received a wrap in white and when CG had it for sale recently they offered it with 624PS and TUV papers or for export with 680PS - same car !
TB993tt said:
IMIA said:
it doesn't surprise me that only two cars were prepared by RS Tuning for them.
I reckon the 624 PS car CG were touting around various tests was really built 680 PS car.
Just to clarify it was 2 engine builds (on the same car) which RS did. The black car in the vid started off with 624PS/82XNM and got TUV approval, they then developed it further mindful that that the rods were at risk since other customer's cars (RS Customers) had bent their rods at these levels. The further development was different pistons and Carillos and tuned up to ~680PS it was in this level of tune that Sport Auto tested it in that group test with 0-300 in 23.8s - they wrote 624PS in the specs but that was because the cars had to be full TUV approved.....I reckon the 624 PS car CG were touting around various tests was really built 680 PS car.
This car received a wrap in white and when CG had it for sale recently they offered it with 624PS and TUV papers or for export with 680PS - same car !
IMIA said:
TB993tt said:
IMIA said:
it doesn't surprise me that only two cars were prepared by RS Tuning for them.
I reckon the 624 PS car CG were touting around various tests was really built 680 PS car.
Just to clarify it was 2 engine builds (on the same car) which RS did. The black car in the vid started off with 624PS/82XNM and got TUV approval, they then developed it further mindful that that the rods were at risk since other customer's cars (RS Customers) had bent their rods at these levels. The further development was different pistons and Carillos and tuned up to ~680PS it was in this level of tune that Sport Auto tested it in that group test with 0-300 in 23.8s - they wrote 624PS in the specs but that was because the cars had to be full TUV approved.....I reckon the 624 PS car CG were touting around various tests was really built 680 PS car.
This car received a wrap in white and when CG had it for sale recently they offered it with 624PS and TUV papers or for export with 680PS - same car !
Little bit of an update. My cars just been back from a complimentary service at OPC Hatfield. The service guys there were literally blown away by the 9e 28 package and commented on how well thought out they feel the upgrades are. Service guy said if I ever decide to sell her he'd like first right of refusal to buy my baby!
She passed her MOT with flying colours and it turns out that I only covered 5000 miles last year. I've had her back a few months since 9e carried out their alchemy and I have already covered 3000 miles! She used to be my daily driver so I never really bothered taking her on any special runs. I now take her out at every opportunity which speaks for itself. She's run faultlessly apart from on a hard two hour midnight run her high flow IPD Y pipe came off very slightly. It was easy enough to get back on and tighten the jubilee clip. I'm running a competition 82mm IPD plenum with GT3 throttle body which is a first on this package. On previous customers cars 9e used the 74mm IPD plenum. I lose some mid range punch but gain at the top end with the larger plenum. Imagine sucking air through a larger straw - its that much more difficult but when the GT2 turbos are lit the extra flow gives her more power and torque at the top end. I'm v.happy with this latest upgrade to the 9e 28 package as its mid range torque which blows up engines on modified cars and the trade off with a v.strong top end is worth it in my book. We shall find out if this latest tweak has given me a bit more power for sure at VMAX on the 7th of March where I will VBOX and video some 0-300 kph runs - really looking forward to the event very much.
Pic of the Y Pipe which had blown itself off with all the extra power. Its not happened since and I've covered over 1000 miles since it happened.
She's got a bit mucky so decided to give her a good wash today.
Before.
After.
[url]
|http://thumbsnap.com/hWbbZhcC[/url]
So verdict after 3000 miles. My wife is convinced I'm going to lose my license or worse. She reminds me I have four children and can't understand why I pop out at 12am for an occasional hoon - think she may suspect I'm having an affair My best friend says that he thinks I'd be better off with a new Lambo or Fezza and that I should sell my car to him immediately lol! 
Other road users including Ferrari drivers now give her the 
Me, I waited 8 years before upgrading her with which for me are arguably the best after market components currently available on the market without rebuilding an engine with forged internals. Was i right to wait 8 years? Yes in my book because every single other VTG upgrade package results in timing being pulled after a few runs in 4th, 5th and 6th gears. Ken has only recently revealed the tech he's used to over come this issue with VTGs (I think he may have thought I was a spy from a competitor!). I have to say 9e's solution to help counter this well documented issue is ingenious. I cannot unfortunately reveal much more but 9e found a solution by turning the problem upside down and focussing on the core of the problem rather than the effect as competitors have done. Ken in the past has always been quite derogatory about Porsche using VTGs but ironically 9e's VTG solution may open up the door to 9e becoming the market leader tuning Porsches later turbo platforms such as 997.2 turbo and 991 turbo. With all 911s becoming turbocharged the future looks quite bright for 9e. What many people do not realise is that they're just as enthusiastic about Caymans, Boxsters, Pannys, Cayennes and Carreras, vintage and classic Porsches as they are turbos.
Any other upgrades planned? For now I'm happy. Yes motorsport suspension will improve her but I do not want to ruin her supple ride. Carbon brakes from Surface Transforms are on the cards at some stage maybe but the stock steel Porsche brakes for road use are up to the job. Adios, I shall report back after VMAX. Watch this space....
She passed her MOT with flying colours and it turns out that I only covered 5000 miles last year. I've had her back a few months since 9e carried out their alchemy and I have already covered 3000 miles! She used to be my daily driver so I never really bothered taking her on any special runs. I now take her out at every opportunity which speaks for itself. She's run faultlessly apart from on a hard two hour midnight run her high flow IPD Y pipe came off very slightly. It was easy enough to get back on and tighten the jubilee clip. I'm running a competition 82mm IPD plenum with GT3 throttle body which is a first on this package. On previous customers cars 9e used the 74mm IPD plenum. I lose some mid range punch but gain at the top end with the larger plenum. Imagine sucking air through a larger straw - its that much more difficult but when the GT2 turbos are lit the extra flow gives her more power and torque at the top end. I'm v.happy with this latest upgrade to the 9e 28 package as its mid range torque which blows up engines on modified cars and the trade off with a v.strong top end is worth it in my book. We shall find out if this latest tweak has given me a bit more power for sure at VMAX on the 7th of March where I will VBOX and video some 0-300 kph runs - really looking forward to the event very much.
Pic of the Y Pipe which had blown itself off with all the extra power. Its not happened since and I've covered over 1000 miles since it happened.
She's got a bit mucky so decided to give her a good wash today.
Before.
After.
[url]|http://thumbsnap.com/hWbbZhcC[/url]So verdict after 3000 miles. My wife is convinced I'm going to lose my license or worse. She reminds me I have four children and can't understand why I pop out at 12am for an occasional hoon - think she may suspect I'm having an affair
My best friend says that he thinks I'd be better off with a new Lambo or Fezza and that I should sell my car to him immediately lol! Other road users including Ferrari drivers now give her the Me, I waited 8 years before upgrading her with which for me are arguably the best after market components currently available on the market without rebuilding an engine with forged internals. Was i right to wait 8 years? Yes in my book because every single other VTG upgrade package results in timing being pulled after a few runs in 4th, 5th and 6th gears. Ken has only recently revealed the tech he's used to over come this issue with VTGs (I think he may have thought I was a spy from a competitor!). I have to say 9e's solution to help counter this well documented issue is ingenious. I cannot unfortunately reveal much more but 9e found a solution by turning the problem upside down and focussing on the core of the problem rather than the effect as competitors have done. Ken in the past has always been quite derogatory about Porsche using VTGs but ironically 9e's VTG solution may open up the door to 9e becoming the market leader tuning Porsches later turbo platforms such as 997.2 turbo and 991 turbo. With all 911s becoming turbocharged the future looks quite bright for 9e. What many people do not realise is that they're just as enthusiastic about Caymans, Boxsters, Pannys, Cayennes and Carreras, vintage and classic Porsches as they are turbos.
Any other upgrades planned? For now I'm happy. Yes motorsport suspension will improve her but I do not want to ruin her supple ride. Carbon brakes from Surface Transforms are on the cards at some stage maybe but the stock steel Porsche brakes for road use are up to the job. Adios, I shall report back after VMAX. Watch this space....
TB: Thanks for that info. the SICOM PCCB discs, rotors and pads work out at around £10k inc. is that not about the same as OEM on a 997 Turbo or, are the OEM re-placements even more than that?
Also, roughly how many times can I re-laminate a de-laminated set of front PCCB disks with light-track day use ?
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