The £150,000 GT3 has arrived as predicted

The £150,000 GT3 has arrived as predicted

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Robbo66

3,834 posts

234 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Mermaid said:
Most likely to be announced in 2016 after all the Gen 1 991 RS's have been delivered. I say late 2016/ early 2017 delivery if true to form from prior years.
Yeh, probably end of spring..maybe earlier. 2015 obviously. Hope so, we could throw a party.

david hockney

1,204 posts

154 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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I'm just utterly relieved- after many months of people moaning about Porsche because the early fires
had hindered their GT3 production- relentless pages of moaning about Porsche's actions (or lack of).......
we can at least have a happy ending- an instant profit on the GT3.....it's nice that things turned out sweet.
Never lose faith in Porsche.....they are the Real Madrid of the car world.

RSVP911

8,192 posts

134 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Just for fun then - hypothetically pretend you had to sell your GT3 for £K 150 and chuck in £K 15 to get to £K 165 ( to cover the dealer margin - I wish) would you invest in , to get the best long term financial return :

Another 991 GT3

A 997.2 RS

An air cooled car , say a 964 3.6 Turbo or similar

Discuss smile

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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RSVP911 said:
Just for fun then - hypothetically pretend you had to sell your GT3 for £K 150 and chuck in £K 15 to get to £K 165 ( to cover the dealer margin - I wish) would you invest in , to get the best long term financial return :

Another 991 GT3

A 997.2 RS

An air cooled car , say a 964 3.6 Turbo or similar

Discuss smile
2 GT4's smile

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

266 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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remember some people also got paid £15k from POrsche for not having a GT3 on time, sell one now for 150k

and that's a nice £65k margin atm.

still there is a club sports for sale at £125k so not sure who is buying these £165k GT3 if trade is £150k

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
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still there is a club sports for sale at £125k
Link please

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

266 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Mermaid said:
Link please
Porsche Centre Chester
991 GT3 clubsport

Price: £ 125,995

With 2 Years of Porsche Approved Warranty



Edited by PorscheGT4 on Friday 30th January 22:39

dazren

22,612 posts

262 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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As a 991 GT3 owner and driver who is in the for the long term (7.5k miles already), I'm getting hacked off with limited supplies and the resultant premiums. We seem to be moving in a direction with interesting sports cars that you have to be a very good customer/frequent buyer/frequent speculator etc to get one. When the "professionals" see these cars as guaranteed "free money", I'm not sure an infrequent buying long term customer like me would get on the list next time I want to make a purchase. Quite concerning.

EricE

1,945 posts

130 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Some guys on german forums suggest that there are owners that are on their third GT3 engine now.
They got a second engine replacement as directed by Zuffenhausen, complete with a nondisclosure agreement. Fun times if true. Can anybody confirm/deny this?

rosino

1,346 posts

173 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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EricE said:
Some guys on german forums suggest that there are owners that are on their third GT3 engine now.
They got a second engine replacement as directed by Zuffenhausen, complete with a nondisclosure agreement. Fun times if true. Can anybody confirm/deny this?
First time I hear about this. And how the hell would they make you sign a non disclosure for swapping an engine which is faulty under warranty :-)

Sound like Internet BS to me

LindsayMac

569 posts

203 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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You would imagine that if there was still an engine issue you would hear from the RL in the States given the amount of GT3s utilised on track over the pond.

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
Mermaid said:
Link please
Porsche Centre Chester
991 GT3 clubsport

Price: £ 125,995

With 2 Years of Porsche Approved Warranty



Edited by PorscheGT4 on Friday 30th January 22:39
Thickish 12k miles largely explains the price.....yes

V8KSN

4,711 posts

185 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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av185 said:
PorscheGT4 said:
Mermaid said:
Link please
Porsche Centre Chester
991 GT3 clubsport

Price: £ 125,995

With 2 Years of Porsche Approved Warranty



Edited by PorscheGT4 on Friday 30th January 22:39
Thickish 12k miles largely explains the price.....yes
12k miles is not a lot at all! Jesus!

griff7

765 posts

166 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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EricE said:
Some guys on german forums suggest that there are owners that are on their third GT3 engine now.
They got a second engine replacement as directed by Zuffenhausen, complete with a nondisclosure agreement. Fun times if true. Can anybody confirm/deny this?
Saw quite a few in germany with problems including 4 Uk cars that went over for the weekend to the ring and only one drove home !Two others on ramps with oil chucked out everywhere and waiting for porsche to collect them.Could have been simple problems but the garage did not seem to think so.All of them had had new engines and run them in.

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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V8KSN said:
12k miles is not a lot at all! Jesus!
12900 miles is high for a barely 12 month old GT3 and these cars values ARE very mileage sensitive.

5517

1,952 posts

246 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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av185 said:
and these cars values ARE very mileage sensitive.
What do you base that statement on?

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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5517 said:
av185 said:
and these cars values ARE very mileage sensitive.
What do you base that statement on?
All 911s are hugely mileage sensitive.....and always have been....especially GT models under 5 years old and over £100k as is any vehicle in this price category e.g. Romans recently sold an 11 plate 458 with 17k miles c £145k which they stocked for ages simply due to the 'relatively' high mileage for this type of vehicle.

The £17k price difference between the 2 OPC cars is partly down to spec and provenance perhaps but largely down to the 10k mileage difference.

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

266 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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av185 said:
12900 miles is high for a barely 12 month old GT3 and these cars values ARE very mileage sensitive.
So buy it keep it a year and don't use it, then sell it for £165k as 6k pa will then be very low miles. Lol.

this car is priced well, £150k cars with 6k miles are not.

5517

1,952 posts

246 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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av185 said:
All 911s are hugely mileage sensitive.....and always have been....especially GT models under 5 years old and over £100k as is any vehicle in this price category e.g. Romans recently sold an 11 plate 458 with 17k miles c £145k which they stocked for ages simply due to the 'relatively' high mileage for this type of vehicle.
I have ran both 911's and F cars for years and the last thing 911 owners need is Ferrari mileage sensitivity or clocked to death cars as is the Maranello way.

I put 12K miles on a Sport Classic in 12 months and sold it for more than i paid for it with del miles on so when the cars rare and desirable its not so critical with Porsche because we all know they are good for it..

A lower mileage car will always sell first and for more money but 911's sell well at all mileages unlike F cars.

I think the OPC car at 125K is priced very fairly in todays market place.

DT398

1,745 posts

149 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
So buy it keep it a year and don't use it, then sell it for £165k as 6k pa will then be very low miles. Lol.

this car is priced well, £150k cars with 6k miles are not.
I agree, if I were a buyer, I'd see £25k as a big premium to pay for 7,000 less miles

I have a really well specced club sport with <500 miles. Based on the mileage, I'm going to hold out for £200k ;-)

I think it's definitely the case though that Porsche got the list price "wrong" for the RHD 991 GT3 market, compared to what else was available for the money.

Thinking about going for a drive, what are the Cup tyres like on the snow, I wonder?