The £150,000 GT3 has arrived as predicted

The £150,000 GT3 has arrived as predicted

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graeme4130

3,825 posts

181 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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With the eyes of someone who missed the boat on the first wave of cars, and has sinced been priced out the market now they're listing at 140ish (unsold according to classifieds), is it known that there definitely won't be a 991.2 GT3 in the next couple of years as they did with the 997.1/2 ?
From what I've read on here, the assumption is no, but when talking with my OPC, he said not to rule it out (although sales guys don't tend to get much info until they need it)

So, is there expected to be no 991.2 GT3 ? If there is, will that result in 991.1 GT3's plummeting I'm price ?

5517

1,952 posts

245 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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D1ckie said:
Thanks, so the 2013 GT 3 with 12K miles @ £125K is a good deal then?
Well the next car is 143k today then 145k and then 1 at 150 and that's it.
Ive never seen any model of car sell so quickly, its usually a matter of days.
Ive also never experienced values increasing from one sale to the next quite like this but anyone who has driven one can understand the demand.
There is nothing out there like it and the more you use one the more you fall totally in love. Its an addictive experience.
I think you are more than safe in any car at 125K especially a club sport with LEDS and PCCB. Shame theres no lift but the lips are only £130 so you can budget for a few of them instead.



5517

1,952 posts

245 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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itsybitsy said:
With regards to 991 gt3 as of 3 rd qtr 2014 some 195 cars had been registered as new by the dvla with more to come after that if still being built/registered 4th qtr 2014,so not exactly rare is it!
That data is corrupt.

167 UK cars delivered and no more coming.

itsybitsy

5,201 posts

185 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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5517 said:
That data is corrupt.

167 UK cars delivered and no more coming.
Source is DVLA cars registered new for the first time!
Although not sure if a used car coming in from abroad and registered over here would fall into that bracket!

Mario149

7,750 posts

178 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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graeme4130 said:
With the eyes of someone who missed the boat on the first wave of cars, and has sinced been priced out the market now they're listing at 140ish (unsold according to classifieds), is it known that there definitely won't be a 991.2 GT3 in the next couple of years as they did with the 997.1/2 ?
From what I've read on here, the assumption is no, but when talking with my OPC, he said not to rule it out (although sales guys don't tend to get much info until they need it)

So, is there expected to be no 991.2 GT3 ? If there is, will that result in 991.1 GT3's plummeting I'm price ?
If there is a 991.2 GT3 and

1) it's a similar progression from the 991.1 as the 997.2 was from the 997.1 i.e. they don't balls it up but make it incrementally better
and
2) it's priced similarly to a 991.1 + inflation i.e. £110k or a tad more

....I think buyers of 991 GT3s now are going to take a bit of a bath. If it was me and I'd had my GT3 for a year or more, I'd probably be playing the long game, banging out the moment I got the slightest whiff of a 991.2 GT3 on the horizon (or even before, possibly now if £25k+ over list was offered) and putting my money somewhere safe, or in something like 997.2 GT3 which won't be too adversely affected by say a 20% drop in 991 GT3 prices. While the 991 GT3 is an epic car, it's not really low volume so medium to long term it is going to drop IMO, although if Porsche charged £130k for a 991.2 GT3, it would prop them up a little for longer I reckon

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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5517 said:
I didn't mention the £147,500 car because that is sold too and since i posted this the 145k car has also sold. But ive just seen there are a couple on topmarques...

Edited by 5517 on Thursday 29th January 19:58
You might want to change that link as it has (presumably) your postcode?!

av185

18,500 posts

127 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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sidicks said:
5517 said:
I didn't mention the £147,500 car because that is sold too and since i posted this the 145k car has also sold. But ive just seen there are a couple on topmarques...

Edited by 5517 on Thursday 29th January 19:58
You might want to change that link as it has (presumably) your postcode?!
The first Top Marques listed black 14 14 plate 1k mile clubsport car is actually on at £160800........

av185

18,500 posts

127 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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New thread required....!!!

graeme4130

3,825 posts

181 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Mario149 said:
graeme4130 said:
With the eyes of someone who missed the boat on the first wave of cars, and has sinced been priced out the market now they're listing at 140ish (unsold according to classifieds), is it known that there definitely won't be a 991.2 GT3 in the next couple of years as they did with the 997.1/2 ?
From what I've read on here, the assumption is no, but when talking with my OPC, he said not to rule it out (although sales guys don't tend to get much info until they need it)

So, is there expected to be no 991.2 GT3 ? If there is, will that result in 991.1 GT3's plummeting I'm price ?
If there is a 991.2 GT3 and

1) it's a similar progression from the 991.1 as the 997.2 was from the 997.1 i.e. they don't balls it up but make it incrementally better
and
2) it's priced similarly to a 991.1 + inflation i.e. £110k or a tad more

....I think buyers of 991 GT3s now are going to take a bit of a bath. If it was me and I'd had my GT3 for a year or more, I'd probably be playing the long game, banging out the moment I got the slightest whiff of a 991.2 GT3 on the horizon (or even before, possibly now if £25k+ over list was offered) and putting my money somewhere safe, or in something like 997.2 GT3 which won't be too adversely affected by say a 20% drop in 991 GT3 prices. While the 991 GT3 is an epic car, it's not really low volume so medium to long term it is going to drop IMO, although if Porsche charged £130k for a 991.2 GT3, it would prop them up a little for longer I reckon
Good response. Point well made, agreed


sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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graeme4130 said:
Mario149 said:
graeme4130 said:
With the eyes of someone who missed the boat on the first wave of cars, and has sinced been priced out the market now they're listing at 140ish (unsold according to classifieds), is it known that there definitely won't be a 991.2 GT3 in the next couple of years as they did with the 997.1/2 ?
From what I've read on here, the assumption is no, but when talking with my OPC, he said not to rule it out (although sales guys don't tend to get much info until they need it)

So, is there expected to be no 991.2 GT3 ? If there is, will that result in 991.1 GT3's plummeting I'm price ?
If there is a 991.2 GT3 and

1) it's a similar progression from the 991.1 as the 997.2 was from the 997.1 i.e. they don't balls it up but make it incrementally better
and
2) it's priced similarly to a 991.1 + inflation i.e. £110k or a tad more

....I think buyers of 991 GT3s now are going to take a bit of a bath. If it was me and I'd had my GT3 for a year or more, I'd probably be playing the long game, banging out the moment I got the slightest whiff of a 991.2 GT3 on the horizon (or even before, possibly now if £25k+ over list was offered) and putting my money somewhere safe, or in something like 997.2 GT3 which won't be too adversely affected by say a 20% drop in 991 GT3 prices. While the 991 GT3 is an epic car, it's not really low volume so medium to long term it is going to drop IMO, although if Porsche charged £130k for a 991.2 GT3, it would prop them up a little for longer I reckon
Good response. Point well made, agreed
150-200 cars = not low volume??

5517

1,952 posts

245 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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graeme4130 said:
Good response. Point well made, agreed
Apart from the fact its all based on a 991 gt3 2 which aint coming.

5517

1,952 posts

245 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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av185 said:
The first Top Marques listed black 14 14 plate 1k mile clubsport car is actually on at £160800........
ahhhh... 134K plus 20% VAT= 160800.

APOLO1

5,256 posts

194 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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5517 said:
Apart from the fact its all based on a 991 gt3 2 which aint coming.
In addition to 167 is not a lot of cars, even more so for something that is so usable like the GT3......

Think that there will be some profit taking at these 160k prices though.....

av185

18,500 posts

127 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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APOLO1 said:
In addition to 167 is not a lot of cars, even more so for something that is so usable like the GT3......

Think that there will be some profit taking at these 160k prices though.....
Personally D I would see some further seasonal uplift as Spring approaches......

Carl_Docklands

12,154 posts

262 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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APOLO1 said:
5517 said:
Apart from the fact its all based on a 991 gt3 2 which aint coming.
In addition to 167 is not a lot of cars, even more so for something that is so usable like the GT3......

Think that there will be some profit taking at these 160k prices though.....
if either of this information is correct then my hat I will eat. To say the DVLA information is wrong is a bit far fetched.

Time will tell, I doubt 20 import cars made the trip to the UK in such a short space of time.

I also find it hard to swallow that there is no 992/991.2 GT3 follow-up already in the pipeline, the GT3 is the halo we will see one whenever there is a new 911 model.

Happy to eat humble pie in 3 years time.

Sandy59

2,706 posts

211 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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With ref to DVLA info, I'm not sure exactly how it all works, is it possible many are the same cars being sold and re-registered with new owners ??

isaldiri

18,514 posts

168 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Sandy59 said:
With ref to DVLA info, I'm not sure exactly how it all works, is it possible many are the same cars being sold and re-registered with new owners ??
New car regs are vs each car as it is issued a plate and not vs the owner I believe.

Bieldside

Original Poster:

583 posts

199 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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HavIng declined £150000 I do wonder at what point in the curve would I take the money
£175000 possibly as then it becomes an asset and not a car to drive and park
And that would be a real shame - but we all have a price and I think that's mine
Or have it stored professionally and anticipate further rises
First car ever that I have owned that has increased in value from day 1

Sandy59

2,706 posts

211 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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isaldiri said:
New car regs are vs each car as it is issued a plate and not vs the owner I believe.
I presume private plate transfers shouldn't affect the figures then either ??

APOLO1

5,256 posts

194 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Carl_Docklands said:
I also find it hard to swallow that there is no 992/991.2 GT3 follow-up already in the pipeline, the GT3 is the halo we will see one whenever there is a new 911 model.
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I agree, but the 991 15Y face lift is not a new model, and by the time the FL is out, the RS will have only just been built, it may even still be in production at the time the FL is out, so why even bother building it if you are going to FL it a short time later.?

Not saying that imv, there will never be another GT3 of sorts, (no idea as to what engine either) but from what I know, there wont be in the 991 same goes for RS also....

IMHO