GT4RS

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Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Akajak said:
GT4 with PDK coming (so I've heard)
Will make the manual GT4 an instant classic. smile

Do you have nay more information - timing, power...

swimd

350 posts

121 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Mermaid said:
Will make the manual GT4 an instant classic. smile
Not sure. I found the long gearing to be so annoying (on my roads) that I would definitely prefer a "correctly" geared car with PDK-S over the current manual.
I hope we'll see more details about this rumoured version before mine arrives, it wouldn't make sense for me to cancel the order with the current residuals.

av185

18,507 posts

127 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Akajak said:
GT4 with PDK coming (so I've heard)
Be interesting to know where this information was sourced.......

Personally I think it unlikely but personally I would prefer a PDK as long as it is PDK S.........driving

fioran0

2,410 posts

172 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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The last I heard, the budget/club racer Cayman that was planned for 2016 will be PDK. It is not too much of a stretch to assume that some jazzed up GT4 with a PDK will also hit the showrooms. Porsche aren't typically shy in making sure their model layering is thorough enough to stop anyone falling through a crack. Given the way they have been shifting the ground with their organisational ad-speak (PDK for performance, manual for fun) I can't see them having trouble positioning it in a landscape already containing a GT4 (and using RS or similar).

FWIW, on the cayman racer. No single make series plans initially. The car will be a production line vehicle that will be sold through regular dealers. No involvement or support from Motorsports (i.e. build, maintenance or spares). PDK, stock engine, no homologation (including for GT4 series) and no identified race series use.
It is planned to be an entry level track car that will act as a gateway drug for the Cups. Porsche perhaps feel there are a few customers they could hook by making entry easier and cheaper.
This was the gist, however it all still sounded somewhat fluid so time will tell how much of that comes to pass.


jackwood

2,614 posts

208 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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fioran0 said:
The last I heard, the budget/club racer Cayman that was planned for 2016 will be PDK. It is not too much of a stretch to assume that some jazzed up GT4 with a PDK will also hit the showrooms. Porsche aren't typically shy in making sure their model layering is thorough enough to stop anyone falling through a crack. Given the way they have been shifting the ground with their organisational ad-speak (PDK for performance, manual for fun) I can't see them having trouble positioning it in a landscape already containing a GT4 (and using RS or similar).

FWIW, on the cayman racer. No single make series plans initially. The car will be a production line vehicle that will be sold through regular dealers. No involvement or support from Motorsports (i.e. build, maintenance or spares). PDK, stock engine, no homologation (including for GT4 series) and no identified race series use.
It is planned to be an entry level track car that will act as a gateway drug for the Cups. Porsche perhaps feel there are a few customers they could hook by making entry easier and cheaper.
This was the gist, however it all still sounded somewhat fluid so time will tell how much of that comes to pass.
So would it be fully stripped, full cage, buckets, adjustable passive damping, everything FIA approved, etc? How would that work if there was no motorsport involvement? Leave it to the regular production guys to design it?

A bit confused what this car is. A lightweight track car (basically a true ClubSport)? Or a race car?

Sorry for the stupid questions.

ChrisW.

6,296 posts

255 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Thanks Fioran0 ... really interesting ...

But it sounds like the existing CS spec plus a few bells with no massive advantages ??

Unless the GT4 is "less" than we think ??

Robbo66

3,833 posts

233 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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swimd said:
Not sure. I found the long gearing to be so annoying (on my roads) that I would definitely prefer a "correctly" geared car with PDK-S over the current manual.
I hope we'll see more details about this rumoured version before mine arrives, it wouldn't make sense for me to cancel the order with the current residuals.
Agree with you here. The RS version should have been the GT4 from the start. The GT4 as it stands just doesn't have the pull for me. I was offered a slot, but turned it down. I would consider an RS version possibly.....lot more out there that I would prefer though.

J-P

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4,350 posts

206 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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jackwood said:
fioran0 said:
The last I heard, the budget/club racer Cayman that was planned for 2016 will be PDK. It is not too much of a stretch to assume that some jazzed up GT4 with a PDK will also hit the showrooms. Porsche aren't typically shy in making sure their model layering is thorough enough to stop anyone falling through a crack. Given the way they have been shifting the ground with their organisational ad-speak (PDK for performance, manual for fun) I can't see them having trouble positioning it in a landscape already containing a GT4 (and using RS or similar).

FWIW, on the cayman racer. No single make series plans initially. The car will be a production line vehicle that will be sold through regular dealers. No involvement or support from Motorsports (i.e. build, maintenance or spares). PDK, stock engine, no homologation (including for GT4 series) and no identified race series use.
It is planned to be an entry level track car that will act as a gateway drug for the Cups. Porsche perhaps feel there are a few customers they could hook by making entry easier and cheaper.
This was the gist, however it all still sounded somewhat fluid so time will tell how much of that comes to pass.
So would it be fully stripped, full cage, buckets, adjustable passive damping, everything FIA approved, etc? How would that work if there was no motorsport involvement? Leave it to the regular production guys to design it?

A bit confused what this car is. A lightweight track car (basically a true ClubSport)? Or a race car?

Sorry for the stupid questions.
I'm a bit confused by this too?

hunter 66

3,905 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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HI Jack ...... hope all well .
Recently in the last few years GT3 race cars have moved on a lot becoming more complex ( less like their road origin ) a lot faster , so the GT4 class is seen as a future for the Gentleman/ Pro combos ...... so homologation of the GT4 makes sense so there may be a GT4RS as the road homologation car for this GT4 race car ....
Peter

J-P

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4,350 posts

206 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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hunter 66 said:
HI Jack ...... hope all well .
Recently in the last few years GT3 race cars have moved on a lot becoming more complex ( less like their road origin ) a lot faster , so the GT4 class is seen as a future for the Gentleman/ Pro combos ...... so homologation of the GT4 makes sense so there may be a GT4RS as the road homologation car for this GT4 race car ....
Peter
But according to Fiorano's post this new Cayman race car will not be homologated for the GT4 series? R built by the Motorsport team, so confused as to what it is going to be?

jackwood

2,614 posts

208 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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Hi Peter,
All good here thanks.
Still got FAB and actually just purchased GT04 FAB reg to go on a GT4 coming later this year. Should make a great pair.
The GT3 not getting a lot of use but still makes a fantastic car for doing a spot of shopping in Alderley Edge wink



Jack

jackwood

2,614 posts

208 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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Hi Peter,
All good here thanks.
Still got FAB and actually just purchased GT04 FAB reg to go on a GT4 coming later this year. Should make a great pair.
The GT3 not getting a lot of use but still makes a fantastic car for doing a spot of shopping in Alderley Edge wink



Jack

hunter 66

3,905 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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Good Man , so happy that she has the perfect home !!!! enjoy the GT4 , I think it will be a really nice car ....Looking at some more Race Pork myself but not sure yet what??

miskalachi

398 posts

116 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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jackwood said:
Hi Peter,
All good here thanks.
Still got FAB and actually just purchased GT04 FAB reg to go on a GT4 coming later this year. Should make a great pair.
The GT3 not getting a lot of use but still makes a fantastic car for doing a spot of shopping in Alderley Edge wink



Jack
Haha! That's a village I know well smile

jackwood

2,614 posts

208 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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miskalachi said:
jackwood said:
Hi Peter,
All good here thanks.
Still got FAB and actually just purchased GT04 FAB reg to go on a GT4 coming later this year. Should make a great pair.
The GT3 not getting a lot of use but still makes a fantastic car for doing a spot of shopping in Alderley Edge wink



Jack
Haha! That's a village I know well smile
You a local?

Is your GT4 coming from Wilmslow then?

mdianuk

2,890 posts

171 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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jackwood said:
The GT3 not getting a lot of use but still makes a fantastic car for doing a spot of shopping in Alderley Edge wink
Shopping in AE, are you mad; I thought people only went there to be seen biggrin

jackwood

2,614 posts

208 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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mdianuk said:
jackwood said:
The GT3 not getting a lot of use but still makes a fantastic car for doing a spot of shopping in Alderley Edge wink
Shopping in AE, are you mad; I thought people only went there to be seen biggrin
The Waitrose is very good now biggrin

miskalachi

398 posts

116 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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jackwood said:
You a local?

Is your GT4 coming from Wilmslow then?
I am! However, the car is coming from a London OPC

That will be 4 of us now who I know has a GT4 coming based in the local area smile

jackwood

2,614 posts

208 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Is one of them Tom? And Brommers?

BubblesNW

1,710 posts

183 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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miskalachi said:
jackwood said:
You a local?

Is your GT4 coming from Wilmslow then?
I am! However, the car is coming from a London OPC

That will be 4 of us now who I know has a GT4 coming based in the local area smile
Does that include me? Mine's coming from Sheffield even though Wilmslow is only a few miles away from home.