Gen 2 997 GT3 RS
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Alpinestars said:
The 7.2 is just much more interactive. Better steering, manual change, better noise most of the time. The 991 is faster and more clinical. And dare I say it, boring in comparison.
Got to agree with the above . No doubt the 991 was faster , but the 996 and 997 felt more special . (That's why the 991 went when I received a decent offer ) Never driven a Gen 2 RS but I guess it's all the experence of the standard car turned up to 11+ .
EDIT: I'd still give my right arm to get 991 RS . I think it will move the game on again and maybe add some impractability back in !
Edited by GT3cs on Sunday 15th February 08:29
Edited by GT3cs on Sunday 15th February 08:32
GT3cs said:
EDIT: I'd still give my right arm to get 991 RS . I think it will move the game on again and maybe add some impractability back in !
You better hope it's PDK then or you won't be able to drive it Edited by GT3cs on Sunday 15th February 08:29
Edited by GT3cs on Sunday 15th February 08:32
OP – I hope you don’t mind, but I thought I’d reply in your original thread here to the question you asked last night over in the garage contents thread about the 7.2RS as a stable mate to the 991 GT3, since I think my views are consistent with some of the other responses above in this thread. I should point out at the start, though, that my 991GT3 isn’t fully run in yet, so I have yet to experience the delights of 9,000 revs – I am very much looking forward to that!
I can say that the 7.2RS has felt “special” to drive on every occasion I’ve been lucky enough to do so – from the first time I was hooked trying out one of Porsche’s cars at the PEC soon after its launch, to picking up my car when I bought it a couple of years ago, to the country road fun drive yesterday after I took the photos.
I don’t have the driving skill, technical knowledge or breadth of car experience of some on here, but I can tell you that I find the 7.2RS strikes a wonderful balance in a number of ways – you feel absolutely connected to everything through the steering, the suspension, the gear change, the throttle response with the single mass flywheel, and that engine note, yet it isn’t so “raw” as to be frustrating on typical badly surfaced UK roads, given the compliance retained in the suspension; its capabilities clearly far exceed mine but, as long as it is shown respect, it isn't a difficult car to drive and it rewards things done well even if they weren’t quite as smooth/quick/precise as they could have been – it makes the driving experience all the more enjoyable, and makes me want to become a better driver to get the most out of it.
It was wonderful to be able to drive it and the 991 GT3 one after the other on the same roads yesterday, and the old 3.2 Supersport put in a pretty good showing, too. When the roads were clear and well sighted, all three cars were great fun, albeit in the 991 I kept thinking how exceptionally good the car was and revelling in the bullet-fast up-changes and perfectly blipped down-changes, whereas in the 7.2RS I was thinking both about how great the car was and how pleased I was/wasn’t with my last input; in the 3.2 I enjoyed being able to keep the power down for longer because there was less of it and trying to master the long throw of the 915 gearbox after the precision and short throw of the 7.2RS! On stretches of road where it wasn’t possible or sensible to extend the cars, the 991 felt very “normal” whereas the 7.2RS felt like it was champing at the bit – I can see why the extra refinement of the 991 might be a big benefit in some situations, but not for a Sunday blast. I saw enough in the 991, though, to know that when the engine is fully run in, there is going to be serious fun to be had on the right roads…
Having written all that, I have no idea if it will make much sense to anyone else, or be of any use to the OP…but you can probably at least tell that if you have an opportunity to get a 7.2RS, OP, I would wholeheartedly recommend it!
I can say that the 7.2RS has felt “special” to drive on every occasion I’ve been lucky enough to do so – from the first time I was hooked trying out one of Porsche’s cars at the PEC soon after its launch, to picking up my car when I bought it a couple of years ago, to the country road fun drive yesterday after I took the photos.
I don’t have the driving skill, technical knowledge or breadth of car experience of some on here, but I can tell you that I find the 7.2RS strikes a wonderful balance in a number of ways – you feel absolutely connected to everything through the steering, the suspension, the gear change, the throttle response with the single mass flywheel, and that engine note, yet it isn’t so “raw” as to be frustrating on typical badly surfaced UK roads, given the compliance retained in the suspension; its capabilities clearly far exceed mine but, as long as it is shown respect, it isn't a difficult car to drive and it rewards things done well even if they weren’t quite as smooth/quick/precise as they could have been – it makes the driving experience all the more enjoyable, and makes me want to become a better driver to get the most out of it.
It was wonderful to be able to drive it and the 991 GT3 one after the other on the same roads yesterday, and the old 3.2 Supersport put in a pretty good showing, too. When the roads were clear and well sighted, all three cars were great fun, albeit in the 991 I kept thinking how exceptionally good the car was and revelling in the bullet-fast up-changes and perfectly blipped down-changes, whereas in the 7.2RS I was thinking both about how great the car was and how pleased I was/wasn’t with my last input; in the 3.2 I enjoyed being able to keep the power down for longer because there was less of it and trying to master the long throw of the 915 gearbox after the precision and short throw of the 7.2RS! On stretches of road where it wasn’t possible or sensible to extend the cars, the 991 felt very “normal” whereas the 7.2RS felt like it was champing at the bit – I can see why the extra refinement of the 991 might be a big benefit in some situations, but not for a Sunday blast. I saw enough in the 991, though, to know that when the engine is fully run in, there is going to be serious fun to be had on the right roads…
Having written all that, I have no idea if it will make much sense to anyone else, or be of any use to the OP…but you can probably at least tell that if you have an opportunity to get a 7.2RS, OP, I would wholeheartedly recommend it!
Edited by Matisse on Monday 16th February 22:20
RSVP911 said:
Matisse said:
OP – I hope you don’t mind, but I thought I’d reply in your original thread here to the question you asked last night over in the garage contents thread about the 7.2RS as a stable mate to the 991 GT3, since I think my views are consistent with some of the other responses above in this thread. I should point out at the start, though, that my 991GT3 isn’t fully run in yet, so I have yet to experience the delights of 9,000 revs – I am very much looking forward to that!
I can say that the 7.2RS has felt “special” to drive on every occasion I’ve been lucky enough to do so – from the first time I was hooked trying out one of Porsche’s cars at the PEC soon after its launch, to picking up my car when I bought it a couple of years ago, to the country road fun drive yesterday after I took the photos.
I don’t have the driving skill, technical knowledge or breadth of car experience of some on here, but I can tell you that I find the 7.2RS strikes a wonderful balance in a number of ways – you feel absolutely connected to everything through the steering, the suspension, the gear change, the throttle response with the single mass flywheel, and that engine note, yet it isn’t so “raw” as to be frustrating on typical badly surfaced UK roads, given the compliance retained in the suspension; its capabilities clearly far exceed mine but, as long as it is shown respect, it isn't a difficult car to drive and it rewards things done well even if they weren’t quite as smooth/quick/precise as they could have been – it makes the driving experience all the more enjoyable, and makes me want to become a better driver to get the most out of it.
It was wonderful to be able to drive it and the 991 GT3 one after the other on the same roads yesterday, and the old 3.2 Supersport put in a pretty good showing, too. When the roads were clear and well sighted, all three cars were great fun, albeit in the 991 I kept thinking how exceptionally good the car was and revelling in the bullet-fast up-changes and perfectly blipped down-changes, whereas in the 7.2RS I was thinking both about how great the car was and how pleased I was/wasn’t with my last input; in the 3.2 I enjoyed being able to keep the power down for longer because there was less of it and trying to master the long throw of the 915 gearbox after the precision and short throw of the 7.2RS! On stretches of road where it wasn’t possible or sensible to extend the cars, the 991 felt very “normal” whereas the 7.2RS felt like it was champing at the bit – I can see why the extra refinement of the 991 might be a big benefit in some situations, but not for a Sunday blast. I saw enough in the 991, though, to know that when the engine is fully run in, there is going to be serious fun to be had on the right roads…
Having written all that, I have no idea if it will make much sense to anyone else, or be of any use to the OP…but you can probably at least tell that if you have an opportunity to get a 7.2RS, OP, I would wholeheartedly recommend it!
What a great post - thanks for spending the time on it , very nicely put . I know exactly what you mean about enjoying the old and the new - nothing better than a blast in the GT3 followed by a bit of old school air cooled . Re RS - I'm working on it I can say that the 7.2RS has felt “special” to drive on every occasion I’ve been lucky enough to do so – from the first time I was hooked trying out one of Porsche’s cars at the PEC soon after its launch, to picking up my car when I bought it a couple of years ago, to the country road fun drive yesterday after I took the photos.
I don’t have the driving skill, technical knowledge or breadth of car experience of some on here, but I can tell you that I find the 7.2RS strikes a wonderful balance in a number of ways – you feel absolutely connected to everything through the steering, the suspension, the gear change, the throttle response with the single mass flywheel, and that engine note, yet it isn’t so “raw” as to be frustrating on typical badly surfaced UK roads, given the compliance retained in the suspension; its capabilities clearly far exceed mine but, as long as it is shown respect, it isn't a difficult car to drive and it rewards things done well even if they weren’t quite as smooth/quick/precise as they could have been – it makes the driving experience all the more enjoyable, and makes me want to become a better driver to get the most out of it.
It was wonderful to be able to drive it and the 991 GT3 one after the other on the same roads yesterday, and the old 3.2 Supersport put in a pretty good showing, too. When the roads were clear and well sighted, all three cars were great fun, albeit in the 991 I kept thinking how exceptionally good the car was and revelling in the bullet-fast up-changes and perfectly blipped down-changes, whereas in the 7.2RS I was thinking both about how great the car was and how pleased I was/wasn’t with my last input; in the 3.2 I enjoyed being able to keep the power down for longer because there was less of it and trying to master the long throw of the 915 gearbox after the precision and short throw of the 7.2RS! On stretches of road where it wasn’t possible or sensible to extend the cars, the 991 felt very “normal” whereas the 7.2RS felt like it was champing at the bit – I can see why the extra refinement of the 991 might be a big benefit in some situations, but not for a Sunday blast. I saw enough in the 991, though, to know that when the engine is fully run in, there is going to be serious fun to be had on the right roads…
Having written all that, I have no idea if it will make much sense to anyone else, or be of any use to the OP…but you can probably at least tell that if you have an opportunity to get a 7.2RS, OP, I would wholeheartedly recommend it!
Edited by Matisse on Monday 16th February 22:20
Matisse said:
OP – I hope you don’t mind, but I thought I’d reply in your original thread here to the question you asked last night over in the garage contents thread about the 7.2RS as a stable mate to the 991 GT3, since I think my views are consistent with some of the other responses above in this thread. I should point out at the start, though, that my 991GT3 isn’t fully run in yet, so I have yet to experience the delights of 9,000 revs – I am very much looking forward to that!
I can say that the 7.2RS has felt “special” to drive on every occasion I’ve been lucky enough to do so – from the first time I was hooked trying out one of Porsche’s cars at the PEC soon after its launch, to picking up my car when I bought it a couple of years ago, to the country road fun drive yesterday after I took the photos.
I don’t have the driving skill, technical knowledge or breadth of car experience of some on here, but I can tell you that I find the 7.2RS strikes a wonderful balance in a number of ways – you feel absolutely connected to everything through the steering, the suspension, the gear change, the throttle response with the single mass flywheel, and that engine note, yet it isn’t so “raw” as to be frustrating on typical badly surfaced UK roads, given the compliance retained in the suspension; its capabilities clearly far exceed mine but, as long as it is shown respect, it isn't a difficult car to drive and it rewards things done well even if they weren’t quite as smooth/quick/precise as they could have been – it makes the driving experience all the more enjoyable, and makes me want to become a better driver to get the most out of it.
It was wonderful to be able to drive it and the 991 GT3 one after the other on the same roads yesterday, and the old 3.2 Supersport put in a pretty good showing, too. When the roads were clear and well sighted, all three cars were great fun, albeit in the 991 I kept thinking how exceptionally good the car was and revelling in the bullet-fast up-changes and perfectly blipped down-changes, whereas in the 7.2RS I was thinking both about how great the car was and how pleased I was/wasn’t with my last input; in the 3.2 I enjoyed being able to keep the power down for longer because there was less of it and trying to master the long throw of the 915 gearbox after the precision and short throw of the 7.2RS! On stretches of road where it wasn’t possible or sensible to extend the cars, the 991 felt very “normal” whereas the 7.2RS felt like it was champing at the bit – I can see why the extra refinement of the 991 might be a big benefit in some situations, but not for a Sunday blast. I saw enough in the 991, though, to know that when the engine is fully run in, there is going to be serious fun to be had on the right roads…
Having written all that, I have no idea if it will make much sense to anyone else, or be of any use to the OP…but you can probably at least tell that if you have an opportunity to get a 7.2RS, OP, I would wholeheartedly recommend it!
I can say that the 7.2RS has felt “special” to drive on every occasion I’ve been lucky enough to do so – from the first time I was hooked trying out one of Porsche’s cars at the PEC soon after its launch, to picking up my car when I bought it a couple of years ago, to the country road fun drive yesterday after I took the photos.
I don’t have the driving skill, technical knowledge or breadth of car experience of some on here, but I can tell you that I find the 7.2RS strikes a wonderful balance in a number of ways – you feel absolutely connected to everything through the steering, the suspension, the gear change, the throttle response with the single mass flywheel, and that engine note, yet it isn’t so “raw” as to be frustrating on typical badly surfaced UK roads, given the compliance retained in the suspension; its capabilities clearly far exceed mine but, as long as it is shown respect, it isn't a difficult car to drive and it rewards things done well even if they weren’t quite as smooth/quick/precise as they could have been – it makes the driving experience all the more enjoyable, and makes me want to become a better driver to get the most out of it.
It was wonderful to be able to drive it and the 991 GT3 one after the other on the same roads yesterday, and the old 3.2 Supersport put in a pretty good showing, too. When the roads were clear and well sighted, all three cars were great fun, albeit in the 991 I kept thinking how exceptionally good the car was and revelling in the bullet-fast up-changes and perfectly blipped down-changes, whereas in the 7.2RS I was thinking both about how great the car was and how pleased I was/wasn’t with my last input; in the 3.2 I enjoyed being able to keep the power down for longer because there was less of it and trying to master the long throw of the 915 gearbox after the precision and short throw of the 7.2RS! On stretches of road where it wasn’t possible or sensible to extend the cars, the 991 felt very “normal” whereas the 7.2RS felt like it was champing at the bit – I can see why the extra refinement of the 991 might be a big benefit in some situations, but not for a Sunday blast. I saw enough in the 991, though, to know that when the engine is fully run in, there is going to be serious fun to be had on the right roads…
Having written all that, I have no idea if it will make much sense to anyone else, or be of any use to the OP…but you can probably at least tell that if you have an opportunity to get a 7.2RS, OP, I would wholeheartedly recommend it!
I spent over 7 months, day in day out, searching the net and contacting owners to try and prise the car out of their hands. Deals were nearly done with 2 cars and at the last minute the owners decided to keep them.
I thought I was fighting a losing battle and nearly ready to give up. So much so that a GT2RS was found and considered, but in the end my dad decided to hold out for the GT3RS.
Eventually, this was purchased...
I've only had the pleasure of being out in it once, but it was enough to let me know that my efforts were not wasted. It was worth every hour I spent...
There are a few on the market at the moment. If you can justify it, then go for it. I'm sure you won't regret it.
I thought I was fighting a losing battle and nearly ready to give up. So much so that a GT2RS was found and considered, but in the end my dad decided to hold out for the GT3RS.
Eventually, this was purchased...
I've only had the pleasure of being out in it once, but it was enough to let me know that my efforts were not wasted. It was worth every hour I spent...
There are a few on the market at the moment. If you can justify it, then go for it. I'm sure you won't regret it.
Blukoo said:
I spent over 7 months, day in day out, searching the net and contacting owners to try and prise the car out of their hands. Deals were nearly done with 2 cars and at the last minute the owners decided to keep them.
I thought I was fighting a losing battle and nearly ready to give up. So much so that a GT2RS was found and considered, but in the end my dad decided to hold out for the GT3RS.
Eventually, this was purchased...
I've only had the pleasure of being out in it once, but it was enough to let me know that my efforts were not wasted. It was worth every hour I spent...
There are a few on the market at the moment. If you can justify it, then go for it. I'm sure you won't regret it.
Thanks for the post - stunning col combo ! I thought I was fighting a losing battle and nearly ready to give up. So much so that a GT2RS was found and considered, but in the end my dad decided to hold out for the GT3RS.
Eventually, this was purchased...
I've only had the pleasure of being out in it once, but it was enough to let me know that my efforts were not wasted. It was worth every hour I spent...
There are a few on the market at the moment. If you can justify it, then go for it. I'm sure you won't regret it.
RSVP911 said:
Does anyone know how many 997.2 GT3 RS RHD UK cars were delivered ? cheers
I actually contacted Porsches research team to get a figure of 2010 and 2011 cars produced and they did get back to me.I'll see if I can find the exact figures but off the top off my head I believe there were around 110 RHD 2010 cars and 20 RHD 2011 cars.
Edited with info as supplied by Porsche:
102 UK RHD 2010 GT3RS
32 UK RHD 2011 GT3RS.
32 RHD 4.0 GT3RS, although I was always under the impression is was (26).
Maybe these figured aren't to be trusted 100% but that's what a Rachel from Porsche told me.
Edited by Blukoo on Friday 20th February 06:12
Blukoo said:
I actually contacted Porsches research team to get a figure of 2010 and 2011 cars produced and they did get back to me.
I'll see if I can find the exact figures but off the top off my head I believe there were around 110 RHD 2010 cars and 20 RHD 2011 cars.
Edited with info as supplied by Porsche:
102 UK RHD 2010 GT3RS
32 UK RHD 2011 GT3RS.
32 RHD 4.0 GT3RS, although I was always under the impression is was (26).
Maybe these figured aren't to be trusted 100% but that's what a Rachel from Porsche told me.
That's great thanks - just for clarity - are you saying 134 3.8 RS's in total - just clarifying as coincidently the 2011 number is 32 , which happens to also be the same number for the 4.0 - I think this is the case as your post is really clear , thanks very much I'll see if I can find the exact figures but off the top off my head I believe there were around 110 RHD 2010 cars and 20 RHD 2011 cars.
Edited with info as supplied by Porsche:
102 UK RHD 2010 GT3RS
32 UK RHD 2011 GT3RS.
32 RHD 4.0 GT3RS, although I was always under the impression is was (26).
Maybe these figured aren't to be trusted 100% but that's what a Rachel from Porsche told me.
Edited by Blukoo on Friday 20th February 06:12
Edited by RSVP911 on Friday 20th February 08:43
Edited by RSVP911 on Friday 20th February 08:44
Excerpt from Top Gear Review - do they all get a sport button as standard ?
Cheers
Excerpt below :
"Press the Sport button and a couple of baffles are opened in the exhaust which release an extra 26lb ft of torque, and the engine note gets a lot snarlier"
Cheers
Excerpt below :
"Press the Sport button and a couple of baffles are opened in the exhaust which release an extra 26lb ft of torque, and the engine note gets a lot snarlier"
Edited by RSVP911 on Friday 20th February 23:46
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