The £180K 991 GT3 has arrived as predicted...

The £180K 991 GT3 has arrived as predicted...

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Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Upnorthgt3 said:
Never mind the £180k 991 GT3 - the £200k 997 GT3RS has arrived......

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Save yourself £40k
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/911/gen...

& if you are happy with LHD, you can save a further £40k


Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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RushSpeed said:
pete a said:
As the car is PDK what's wrong with LHD, this looks better value, guards red, club sport, £104,000

http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/porsche-991-g...
Even better value at £84K - http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/porsche-997-9...
You have to be pretty foolish to pay many of these RHD prices......

Wilmslowboy

4,214 posts

207 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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RushSpeed said:
" Repaired accident damage "

pete a

3,799 posts

185 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Wilmslowboy said:
" Repaired accident damage "
Doh, getmecoat

F1TUK

14 posts

152 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Guys Do you think the white car will sell for 180K as it is a VAT Qualifying? Or is the seller off his head?

throt

3,055 posts

171 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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F1TUK said:
Guys Do you think the white car will sell for 180K as it is a VAT Qualifying? Or is the seller off his head?
I have a better spec than that one, and tbh, no, I think it will not fetch that amount.

ttdan

1,091 posts

194 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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AndrewD said:
Upnorthgt3 said:
Never mind the £180k 991 GT3 - the £200k 997 GT3RS has arrived......

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Nice looking car, bonkers price imo
Totally bonkers.

C. Grimsley

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196 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Wilmslowboy

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207 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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C. Grimsley said:
Unfortunately unless it's front wheel drive, it won't be going anywhere.... getmecoat




RSVP911

8,192 posts

134 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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isaldiri said:
Heh, happy to be proven wrong but.....no car imo is going to be that much better than the 7.2 rs which in many respects is probably the 2nd best car i have driven. Might rent one from rsr or something next time I am at the ring to have a proper go anyway but capable and quick as the 991 gt3 is, still think the older car offers more of what I like in a car these days.
What was the best ? smile

Richie200

2,011 posts

210 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Does anyone have any actual proof that these £160k+ asking prices are actually being met? Just seems ridiculous when you compare their LHD counterparts.

keep it lit

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168 months

RSVP911

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134 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Mermaid said:
Save yourself £40k
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/911/gen...

& if you are happy with LHD, you can save a further £40k
Nice car this one - however the milage is 3 x the £K 200 997.2 RS - at these prices they are becoming very milage sensitive - the £K 200 car is pushing it though - not even got ceramics - the ads a joke , refers to brakes as "red" and mentions the sat Nav twice and then mentions all the standard parts - great work smile.

What I do think will be interesting is where both the 991 GT3 and the 997.2 GT3 RS will end up post the 991 RS launch ?

The 991 RS will flood the media with article after article stating it's best car on the planet . There will be lots of tests where it will be pitched against the Spez. and I imagine the 997.2 RS / 991 GT3 - with the conclusion saying it is more acomplished and it's super , amazing , however there will also be loads of love for the 997.2 / 991 GT3 . Add to this the fact that virtually no one other than 918 customers and a handful of others will get an RS - this leaves disappointed customers with a choice of where to go after the magazine / Youtube fest - only one place to scratch this itch ( assuming they don't want to pay ridicioulious eye watering overs on the RS ) and that's the 991 GT3 or the 997.2 RS - I think this will continue to move prices forward at one hell of a pace - this was another reason why when I was offered £K 150 for mine the other day I said no smile


Edited by RSVP911 on Sunday 22 February 19:59

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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RSVP911 said:
I think this will continue to move prices forward at one hell of a pace - this was another reason why when I was offered £K 150 for mine the other day I said no smile
So would you buy a couple more at circa £150k, as DT398 suggested earlier?


RSVP911

8,192 posts

134 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Mermaid said:
So would you buy a couple more at circa £150k, as DT398 suggested earlier?
You know what that's a fair question - let me answer it as follows - firstly I am not a speculator , but a genuine 911 nut - I love the old air cooled as much as the modern stuff - they are all great in their own way . As such I bought my GT3 in good faith and If I was after a fast buck I would have sold it by now , but as I said in an earlier post , IMHO there is nowhere to go until you can jump out of a 991 GT3 , put in literally a few quid and jump into a Speciale and even then I'm not sure I'd do it. In truth the only thing that would make me sell my car would be a 991 RS and even then I would really think it through as I can drive the GT3 to work but the RS would be pushing it on all sorts of levels - however, the temptation would be too great for me to resist - I'd get the RS and walk to work.

So should I put my money where my mouth is and snap up all the GT3s I can at £K 150 - well the answer would have to be no. Although I genuinely believe they will keep rising as mentioned previously , that is different to it being a cast iron guarantee and as such , I wouldn't want to risk my money speculating on another car that I already own , as I firmly believe that are for driving not for investing . I guess ,if I was going to speculate on one it would be the 997.2 RS as this way I'd spread my risk , rather than having two 991 GT3's and I also think over the long run this will be a really good bet as it is the last of the raw naturally aspirated , race bred engined , manual 911 - I think 991 GT3 will rise faster , but long term it will be overtaken by the 997 RS IMHO ?

What do you think ? smile

Edited by RSVP911 on Sunday 22 February 20:54


Edited by RSVP911 on Sunday 22 February 20:55

GT3cs

1,200 posts

242 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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RSVP911 said:
What do you think

Edited by RSVP911 on Sunday 22 February 20:55
Makes sense . Good answer .

RSVP911

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134 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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GT3cs said:
Makes sense . Good answer .
Oh , thanks very much - in truth this whole speculation thing is a bit gauche and I really have tried to ignore it , but it is getting to a level where it's impossible not to be intrigued by the phenomenon - not happy with myself for taking part in the debate - I guess in its simplest form , It is an overwhming desire for absolutely amazing products that have severely restricted supply and I guess this is why it's currently and will continue happening - however , at some point it will stop and this will be when you can buy something better for the same price smile

throt

3,055 posts

171 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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RSVP911 said:
GT3cs said:
Makes sense . Good answer .
Oh , thanks very much - in truth this whole speculation thing is a bit gauche and I really have tried to ignore it , but it is getting to a level where it's impossible not to be intrigued by the phenomenon - not happy with myself for taking part in the debate - I guess in its simplest form , It is an overwhming desire for absolutely amazing products that have severely restricted supply and I guess this is why it's currently and will continue happening - however , at some point it will stop and this will be when you can buy something better for the same price smile
Don't give a monkees either. However, the peak time will be when RS units are announced , imo. Long term, know body knows.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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throt said:
RSVP911 said:
GT3cs said:
Makes sense . Good answer .
Oh , thanks very much - in truth this whole speculation thing is a bit gauche and I really have tried to ignore it , but it is getting to a level where it's impossible not to be intrigued by the phenomenon - not happy with myself for taking part in the debate - I guess in its simplest form , It is an overwhming desire for absolutely amazing products that have severely restricted supply and I guess this is why it's currently and will continue happening - however , at some point it will stop and this will be when you can buy something better for the same price smile
Don't give a monkees either. However, the peak time will be when RS units are announced , imo. Long term, know body knows.
... Agree with all of the above, the car is so good - the speculation taints it. The value increases on all things Porsche has been a bit like the rapid house price increases - need more houses, need more cars to temper the speculation and make available at prices that are not volatile. If the 991RS was available to order and no limits, things would calm down across the range

You get the drift.. biggrin


RSVP911

8,192 posts

134 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Mermaid said:
... Agree with all of the above, the car is so good - the speculation taints it. The value increases on all things Porsche has been a bit like the rapid house price increases - need more houses, need more cars to temper the speculation and make available at prices that are not volatile. If the 991RS was available to order and no limits, things would calm down across the range

You get the drift.. biggrin
If the 991 RS was fully orderable then all bets would be off , that's for sure. Makes you wonder why Porsche invests in developing & making a car that it could sell 4 * over and then doesn't fulfull the order potential - I just don't get it , I don't buy all that "gift for our most loyal customer" stuff - it can only be to hype the brand I guess - confused.com ?

Edited by RSVP911 on Sunday 22 February 22:27