991 GT3 Hype

[stef1808]

P marketing have done a good job at hyping up the gt3 - I think ronin is trying to say here: don't fall for the "now with pdk, the gt3 will attract a new type of customer" malarkey... It's still very much a gt car

Saying it's just "meh" on the track is a first.. Interesting

Anyway, enjoy your turbo s, in my eyes, it's the best dd car out there

[the ronin]

I really do enjoy it, my RS211 will be getting a little lonely sitting all alone in the garage... I may even have to hook up a battery tender for the first time....

[piston3461]

stef1808 said:

P marketing have done a good job at hyping up the gt3 - I think ronin is trying to say here: don't fall for the "now with pdk, the gt3 will attract a new type of customer" malarkey... It's still very much a gt car

Saying it's just "meh" on the track is a first.. Interesting

Anyway, enjoy your turbo s, in my eyes, it's the best dd car out there

To Frank it would seem like a slug compared to his Lotus, so I can see why he prefers the rush of the Turbo.

That Lotus is an incredible car, absolutely love it.

Edited by piston3461 on Sunday 29th March 07:12

[Bieldside]

Not quite in the same league but I sold my 996 Turbo S to move to the GT3
I can only say that every time I walk up to the GT3 I start to smile and the smile stays until I put it away and the cover goes back on
Didn't do that with the Turbo S

[5517]

the ronin said:

But thanks for the warm welcome on the General Porsche forum....
Everything said about 99.999% of Porsche owners is true..

Cheers

fk off

[APOLO1]

lotus, did that not used to stand for something...".Loads of trouble....etc etc...

[griffgrog]

APOLO1 said:

lotus, did that not used to stand for something...".Loads of trouble....etc etc...

Lots Of Talk Usually ste

[V8KSN]

Can't we all just get along and accept other people like other stuff?

This forum is like a kids playground sometimes!

[Robbo66]

RDMcG said:

I have never felt very prescriptive about what other people should buy. Want a Turbo?..good. GT3? fine. Prefer manual to PDK?...why not. In the end of the day the variety of what motivates cars buyers is endless. The "real driver" argument to me seems like a lot of willy-waving.

Personally, I rate myself as track-competent, not competitive, but i enjoy the experience of a few track days a year. Logically I do not need a GT3RS, but i like them and enjoy the experience of driving them. There is a very strong argument that the premium in price is not matched by a premium in performance, which is true. In the end though, it just feels a bit more special and I am picking up my third one in Zuffenhausen in September, will run it in and do my usual trip to Spa and the NS.

If people prefer an Elise, Corvette, Ferrari or anything else, they'll get no criticism from me. Its their money. If an excellent driver in an objectively slower car passes me, it does not crush my ego. Its just about having some fun on the track, not being a gladiator.

Edited by RDMcG on Saturday 28th March 21:47

This is the most sensible post on here....and has been ignored by the PH massive as it states the blindingly obvious. But the massive are not interested in reasoned, objective and experienced views.

No, the usual suspects have extreme views at either end of the spectrum, usually written in reaction to someone's polar opposite opinion.
Cutting , quoting and pasting madly, 'where's that parrot pic ...there...submit...great...feel better now'....coming dear'.
And these are grown men.

[robgt3]

V8KSN said:

Can't we all just get along and accept other people like other stuff?

This forum is like a kids playground sometimes!

Plus 1

[5517]

Robbo66 said:

This is the most sensible post on here....and has been ignored by the PH massive as it states the blindingly obvious. But the massive are not interested in reasoned, objective and experienced views.

No, the usual suspects have extreme views at either end of the spectrum, usually written in reaction to someone's polar opposite opinion.
Cutting , quoting and pasting madly, 'where's that parrot pic ...there...submit...great...feel better now'....coming dear'.
And these are grown men.

Agreed, however this thread was started in an aggressive tone by a "grown man" and was intended to provoke the keyboard warrior that can be unearthed in all who frequent these forums.

In an ideal world I would run a 991 Turbo S alongside my 991 GT3 and enjoy both for their intended purposes.

[robgt3]

Robbo66 said:

This is the most sensible post on here....and has been ignored by the PH massive as it states the blindingly obvious. But the massive are not interested in reasoned, objective and experienced views.

No, the usual suspects have extreme views at either end of the spectrum, usually written in reaction to someone's polar opposite opinion.
Cutting , quoting and pasting madly, 'where's that parrot pic ...there...submit...great...feel better now'....coming dear'.
And these are grown men.

Plus 1

[Yellow491]

fioran0 said:

Here is Frank (the Ronin) and his car (not the GT3 or the Turbo S) on Jay Leno's Garage. It's quite an interesting car that he built so worth a watch.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2dbd0z_ronin-rs-...

Thanks for the link,what a great car,interesting leno comments on size of other cars etc.
It is about time porsche wake up and smell the coffee on making true driver cars again,not these overweight lardy autos full of sales hype.
I can see where frank is coming from,especially if he got rear ended by a porsche driver,who probaly needed a pdk box ,as his reaction time would not cope with a manual version!!!
It would be nice to have those canyons over here frank.

[Phooey]

Frank, i want one!

Check this vid - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHFwLczVrGw

[sidicks]

Yellow491 said:

Thanks for the link,what a great car,interesting leno comments on size of other cars etc.
It is about time porsche wake up and smell the coffee on making true driver cars again,not these overweight lardy autos full of sales hype.
I can see where frank is coming from,especially if he got rear ended by a porsche driver, who probaly needed a pdk box ,as his reaction time would not cope with a manual version!!!
It would be nice to have those canyons over here frank.

A few sensible posts above and then someone has to spoil it with a stupid comment asserting that PDK drivers are somehow inferior to those who prefer manuals. How dull.

[Yellow491]

sidicks said:

A few sensible posts above and then someone has to spoil it with a stupid comment asserting that PDK drivers are somehow inferior to those who prefer manuals. How dull.

You are so predicatable we can catch you any time,you call sensible posts telling some one to go back to lotus forum as they challenge your so special/precious car.
You said inferior not me!

[sidicks]

Yellow491 said:

You are so predicatable we can catch you any time,you call sensible posts telling some one to go back to lotus forum as they challenge your so special/precious car.

I said no such thing.

Yellow491 said:

You said inferior not me!

You don't think reaction times are important in driving?

Edited by sidicks on Sunday 29th March 11:42

[Phooey]

Yellow491 said:

You are so predicatable we can catch you any time

shouldn't take the mick out of peoples naivety

[sidicks]

Phooey said:

shouldn't take the mick out of peoples naivety

No naivety required.

If someone is posting drivel purely to try and wind someone else up, then that just destroys the forum for everyone and really is school playground stuff.

Much more useful for those who have experience of different cars to post their views and interesting comparisons (I'd be really interested to the views of people who own 991 GT3s and who have previously owned earlier versions - in particular their opinions of where the new car is better and worse than earlier versions - rather than the constant nonsense from people who haven't driven the new car about how it drives itself etc).

But I guess that's tpo much to ask.

[IMIA]

sidicks said:

the ronin said:

And now except for a rare few are the very typical Porsche owners response mechanism at work...

I said the 991 GT3 sucks in the canyons and in general as a road car.... and all those journalists are wrong in my opinion since I doubt any bought a new 991 GT3 as a daily driver..

IMO the 991 GT3 can be used as a daily driver but that is not its forte. I agree that the Turbo might make a better daily driver. Most of us 991 GT3 owners did not buy the GT3 to be used as a daily driver - it's far more special than that.

However it is an extremely accomplished road car, and driven properly, can provide a huge amount of entertainment. In the right gear performance is on a par with the Turbo - the key difference is how you drive it and your comment about a 'lack of torque' suggests you tried to drive it in the same way as the Turbo S, which would explain a lot.

Of course the Turbo with 4WD has greater grip - again the key with the GT3 is to manage the grip appropriately,

the ronin said:

But thanks for the warm welcome on the General Porsche forum....
Everything said about 99.999% of Porsche owners is true..

Cheers

Ronin hats of to you on your Lotus and the J Leno piece was probably his most enjoyable piece of last year for me - he properly looked like he was having fun too - someone like you needs to be running Lotus as your car is off the chart.

Sidicks you are so arrogant and defensive about your own choice of steed its beyond comprehension.

Now back to choosing which colour deviated stitching I'm having on my next car.