997 engine failure
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I know its kinda impossible to second guess but with all the expertise on here I was hoping someone could let me know there thoughts on the following...
I bought a 2006 997 3.6 4 months ago and have done 1400mls in it. Earlier this week I was driving it and when i pulled in for fuel it stalled which is unusual, it started again so I thought no more of it, when leaving the filling station the car felt 'tight' I would say, just like it was holding back a bit, but all gauges reading ok and no warnings, it then stalled once more in traffic (on motorway) the traffic cleared and i guess I got to about 55 - 60mph when the engine gave a death rattle and the car vibrated as if rear tyres were flat, i dipped the clutch and the engine cut out, plenty of smoke in the read view mirror.
The engine will not even turn over now, the oil level and coolant levels still look ok, but inside the oil filler is a large amounth of mayonaise type deposit that was not there before the journey when i checked the levels.
Im now stuck with a dead 911 and I was wondering what im likely to be in for, new engine?
As an aside the dealer i bought it off,informed me it had had headgasket work at a Porsche main agent and bores checked shortly before I purchased it.
any advice would be appreciated
sad times
I bought a 2006 997 3.6 4 months ago and have done 1400mls in it. Earlier this week I was driving it and when i pulled in for fuel it stalled which is unusual, it started again so I thought no more of it, when leaving the filling station the car felt 'tight' I would say, just like it was holding back a bit, but all gauges reading ok and no warnings, it then stalled once more in traffic (on motorway) the traffic cleared and i guess I got to about 55 - 60mph when the engine gave a death rattle and the car vibrated as if rear tyres were flat, i dipped the clutch and the engine cut out, plenty of smoke in the read view mirror.
The engine will not even turn over now, the oil level and coolant levels still look ok, but inside the oil filler is a large amounth of mayonaise type deposit that was not there before the journey when i checked the levels.
Im now stuck with a dead 911 and I was wondering what im likely to be in for, new engine?
As an aside the dealer i bought it off,informed me it had had headgasket work at a Porsche main agent and bores checked shortly before I purchased it.
any advice would be appreciated
sad times
Ask the dealer how they can help by all means, but unless they included a warranty covering whatever's failed they have no statutory responsibility to deal with it. Within the first 6 months since purchase they are required to prove that it wasn't faulty at point of sale - but in this case that's easily done and is self evident as the engine was starting, running and driving when it was supplied and for the following months.
As for what to do with it now - take it to Hartech.
As for what to do with it now - take it to Hartech.
Thanks for the advice so far 
I have emailed the supplying dealer, they seemed like reasonable guys when I bought the car, so will see what they come back with.
I certainly feel a £27k car should last longer than 4 months and achieve a little more than 1400mls before it needs a new engine
I have emailed the supplying dealer, they seemed like reasonable guys when I bought the car, so will see what they come back with.I certainly feel a £27k car should last longer than 4 months and achieve a little more than 1400mls before it needs a new engine
chocolatemonk said:
Thanks for the advice so far I have emailed the supplying dealer, they seemed like reasonable guys when I bought the car, so will see what they come back with.
I certainly feel a £27k car should last longer than 4 months and achieve a little more than 1400mls before it needs a new engine
Presume at that level of purchase you also have some form of Warranty, most likely third party? I have emailed the supplying dealer, they seemed like reasonable guys when I bought the car, so will see what they come back with.I certainly feel a £27k car should last longer than 4 months and achieve a little more than 1400mls before it needs a new engine
Given the short time you've had it I'd have thought best course of action will be to see what the vendor will do for you first and if they're not helpful, get legal advice. The fact that it has porportedly had head gasket work done recently, and you've now got the tell-tale signs of water/oil mix - I'd say its entirely possible the fix wasn't done properly. Hope you eventually get a satisfactory solution.
Fl0pp3r said:
Given the short time you've had it I'd have thought best course of action will be to see what the vendor will do for you first and if they're not helpful, get legal advice. The fact that it has porportedly had head gasket work done recently, and you've now got the tell-tale signs of water/oil mix - I'd say its entirely possible the fix wasn't done properly. Hope you eventually get a satisfactory solution.
agreed, any dealer supplied car legally comes with a 6 month warranty, given time and miles I would say you have a good case to claim car was not for for purpose if engine goes popAdam B said:
agreed, any dealer supplied car legally comes with a 6 month warranty, given time and miles I would say you have a good case to claim car was not for for purpose if engine goes pop
I thought there was no legal requirement to give a warranty, but most offer a minimum of 3 months? I am not an expert by any means and hope I am wrong for the OP in this case. On a car well North of £20k I would be expecting an absolute minimum 6 month warranty to be offered. Thanks for all your help and advice, the dealer did not hide the fact that Porsche had carried out head gasket
Works and I have seen the invoice.
The dealer called me back after I emailed and I feel more confident an agreeable arrangement can be made. Fingers crossed.
Will keep topic updated!
Works and I have seen the invoice.
The dealer called me back after I emailed and I feel more confident an agreeable arrangement can be made. Fingers crossed.
Will keep topic updated!
Not a lawyer either but:
"The amendments to the Sales of Goods Act (EC Directive 1999/44/EC) that came into force on 31st March 2003 now place the burden of proof on you 'the car dealer' for the first six months after a purchase.
If your customer makes a claim in the first six months it will be up to you to prove the vehicle was correct when it left your premises.
This is your customers’ legal rights, not their warranty. In addition to having their legal rights a customer may be offered a warranty by the car dealer on a voluntary basis."
http://www.lawgistics.co.uk/legal-article-warranty...
"The amendments to the Sales of Goods Act (EC Directive 1999/44/EC) that came into force on 31st March 2003 now place the burden of proof on you 'the car dealer' for the first six months after a purchase.
If your customer makes a claim in the first six months it will be up to you to prove the vehicle was correct when it left your premises.
This is your customers’ legal rights, not their warranty. In addition to having their legal rights a customer may be offered a warranty by the car dealer on a voluntary basis."
http://www.lawgistics.co.uk/legal-article-warranty...
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