Condition of PCCB

Condition of PCCB

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Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

189 months

Sunday 31st May 2015
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HokumPokum said:
per disc?
Hi

Nope, for the set. In Europe they are offering €300 per worn disc. So a slightly better deal in the UK in terms of exchange rate.

You can use the old discs as PX as well if you wanted to buy a full new set.

Yellow491

2,923 posts

119 months

Sunday 31st May 2015
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Hi
Can you let me know if your 300 or 305mm discs would fit a 1973rsr bell and in the 917 calipers with pads.
Also what is the weight and thickness of the 300mm disc
How good are they,from Cold for hill climbing,and not a lot of heat generated
Thanks

Spoof

1,854 posts

215 months

Sunday 31st May 2015
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Good news, but with the exchange rate, will it be cheaper for UK guys to send them to Germany?

Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

189 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Spoof said:
Good news, but with the exchange rate, will it be cheaper for UK guys to send them to Germany?
Depends entirely on the exchange rate.

We're looking to finalise the UK prices as soon as possible and fix them.

Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

189 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Yellow491 said:
Hi
Can you let me know if your 300 or 305mm discs would fit a 1973rsr bell and in the 917 calipers with pads.
Also what is the weight and thickness of the 300mm disc
How good are they,from Cold for hill climbing,and not a lot of heat generated
Thanks
Hi

In theory we can make any disc ...as long as a minimum order of 5 is requested. However nothing officially for the older 911 models. Though that said, if 911 discs are interchangeable through the years then it could fit.....the offset, clearances etc would be a bigger challenge though.

Sicom discs will only work with SICOM calipers due to the thickness unless you are very good at modifying calipers.

Thickness is around 38mm.

For hill climbing they would be perfect as braking uphill would generate the sort of heat needed to get the best out of the discs.

Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

189 months

Saturday 20th June 2015
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Apologies for the lack of updates. We've been really busy on the refurbishment side!

Here are some pictures of a Ferrari CCB we refurbished. A different material is used from Brembo/SGL as you can see.





Some more, from a different car (a F430 I believe)















Edited by Schermerhorn on Monday 22 June 09:03

Bennachie

1,090 posts

151 months

Sunday 21st June 2015
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No pix.

miskalachi

398 posts

116 months

Sunday 21st June 2015
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I'm delighted to have come across this thread, I was in two minds whether to spec PCCBS on my GT4 because of the fear factor when it comes to replacing the rotors etc. now I know this refurbishment service is available, I'll now be including the carbon ceramics on my spec smile

Fl0pp3r

859 posts

203 months

Sunday 21st June 2015
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miskalachi said:
I'm delighted to have come across this thread, I was in two minds whether to spec PCCBS on my GT4 because of the fear factor when it comes to replacing the rotors etc. now I know this refurbishment service is available, I'll now be including the carbon ceramics on my spec smile
+1

Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

189 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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Apologies guys, pictures should be working now.

Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

189 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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miskalachi said:
I'm delighted to have come across this thread, I was in two minds whether to spec PCCBS on my GT4 because of the fear factor when it comes to replacing the rotors etc. now I know this refurbishment service is available, I'll now be including the carbon ceramics on my spec smile
Excellent. Check us out on Twitter for more info!

https://twitter.com/SicomBRAKESUK

ChrisW.

6,310 posts

255 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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Well, just for information, I've just done exactly the same.

Re-specced PCCB's an my GT4.

But for context I'm anticipating a shiny new set of refurbished PCCB's to be fitted to my Cayman R in time for my track days at Spa early in July ... my feeling is that Porsche themselves should offer this as a service option.

Maybe this is a conversation to be had .... I'll let you know how I get on smile

miskalachi

398 posts

116 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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ChrisW. said:
Well, just for information, I've just done exactly the same.

Re-specced PCCB's an my GT4.

But for context I'm anticipating a shiny new set of refurbished PCCB's to be fitted to my Cayman R in time for my track days at Spa early in July ... my feeling is that Porsche themselves should offer this as a service option.

Maybe this is a conversation to be had .... I'll let you know how I get on smile
Happy days! looking forward to an update smile

miskalachi

398 posts

116 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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Schermerhorn said:
Excellent. Check us out on Twitter for more info!

https://twitter.com/SicomBRAKESUK
Thanks for the link. Out of interest, if I chipped a disc, when you refurbish them, will that eliminate the chip / damage?

Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

189 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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Hi

It depends on the severity of the chip.

If it is like the one below, we cannot refurbish as there is simply too much structure that has been lost to refurbish. Chances are a disc like this is also cracked internally when we X-ray them. Internal cracks (ceramic equivalent to 'warping' if you will) will cause instability over a short period of time and quickly render the disc pretty useless.



Do you have a picture of the discs, I'll be able to give a better assessment.

In the meanwhile, here is some information for you guys.


Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

189 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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ChrisW. said:
Well, just for information, I've just done exactly the same.

Re-specced PCCB's an my GT4.

But for context I'm anticipating a shiny new set of refurbished PCCB's to be fitted to my Cayman R in time for my track days at Spa early in July ... my feeling is that Porsche themselves should offer this as a service option.

Maybe this is a conversation to be had .... I'll let you know how I get on smile
Chris, did you get the refurbishment through us, or are you wanting to do it?

ChrisW.

6,310 posts

255 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Through Foxx Automotive .... awaiting delivery now.

Fl0pp3r

859 posts

203 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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One and the same - am I right Schermerhorn?

Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

189 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Yup. 100% the same.

Foxx Automotive is the umbrella company. Then you have SICOM and Akrapovic etc etc within the same organisation.

All of which are owned and managed by CEO Wolfgang Dietz.

ChrisW.

6,310 posts

255 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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I can only say that Foxx have been very helpful.

If it works as anticipated -- the refurbishment of PCCB's could significantly increase the proportion of cars sold with carbon brakes.

I estimate that my PCCB's lasted as long as three sets of steel discs --- around the same cost as my PCCB refurbishment.

The bottom line is also that the Cayman steels are not really good enough for serious amateur track work --- making SICOM carbon discs and callipers a potentially interesting upgrade ...