Condition of PCCB
Discussion
s2000db said:
Schermerhorn said:
vallance5 said:
How would porsche view refurbished discs in relation to a warranty? Would it void it?
That's a good question.Brakes are not covered under warranty in most cases as they are a wear and tear item and unless Porsche was to give a specific warranty with their OEM PCCB brakes I can not see how it would affect a warranty.
We have had customers having had refurbishing on 2011/2012 997 Turbo Gen 2 ceramic brakes and as far as I know the warranty has been unaffected.
Schermerhorn said:
PTT said:
Silly question,
can this be fixed or do i have an expensive piece of art on the garage wall.
Kaput I am afraid. The structure is severely damaged. If it was just heavy scoring across the disc surface it would be be saved.can this be fixed or do i have an expensive piece of art on the garage wall.
Have two of those, happend long time ago when changing the bell on to a new disc (second hand), think it where disc of the back axle of a 997GT3.
Like i said, looks nice on the garage wall.
David A said:
Schermerhorn said:
Kaput I am afraid. The structure is severely damaged. If it was just heavy scoring across the disc surface it would be be saved.
Curious - what about small edge chips I.e. Within porsche tolerances for pccbs?If you have pics I can have a look.
If you look on our Twitter page it gives a general gist of what kind of discs can be refurbed. We have loads of before and after shots.
PS we also have some pics on this thread too!
s2000db said:
Well if Porsche won't give you a warranty with a non Porsche battery, or N rated tyres.. They're hardly likely to give one with non-standard disks.. Are they?
How would they know?Both examples given would have a permanent label. I would not expect a Porsche tech to be able to intuitively know that discs have been relaminated?
Schermerhorn said:
s2000db said:
Is it undetectable? Looks a different colour for a start??
It is no different to any other (steel) brake disc. They lose the surface shine after the bedding in process. With ceramics it takes longer naturally due to the materials used. s2000db said:
Schermerhorn said:
s2000db said:
Is it undetectable? Looks a different colour for a start??
It is no different to any other (steel) brake disc. They lose the surface shine after the bedding in process. With ceramics it takes longer naturally due to the materials used. Mousem40 said:
I disagree. My rears are just as shiny and single coloured (as opposed to the mottled grey matt finish of these reconditioned ones) after 11 years of driving. You can easily tell the difference.
FWIW.
driving < slow>. difference <between ceramics on a GT3 to a GT2.> missing verseFWIW.
Mousem40 said:
I disagree. My rears are just as shiny and single coloured (as opposed to the mottled grey matt finish of these reconditioned ones) after 11 years of driving. You can easily tell the difference.
FWIW.
Depends on driving styles. Ceramics are designed to take serious abuse and track work. The temperatures have to rise way beyond standard steel jobs. FWIW.
Mousem40 said:
wycoller said:
driving < slow>. difference <between ceramics on a GT3 to a GT2.> missing verse
Lol 
I meant even new vs new they look nothing like each other, one is shiny and has a single grey/silver colour, the other has a fibrous mottled grey matt finish. To be fair though, the carbon ceramics that Porsche used in the mid 2000's are not even the same as the ones they use now. This technology is getting a lot of R&D poured into it by the big suppliers, SICOM included.
RWD cossie wil said:
From brand new, what sort of life/milage would you expect from the 996 380mm discs/pads upgrade kit?
Car would be mainly road use but with some trackdays, Nurburgring & Vmac runs...
Hard to quanitify with an answer.Car would be mainly road use but with some trackdays, Nurburgring & Vmac runs...
It all depends on how you drive on the road, how hard you drive on the track etc.
Put it this way, our GT2 test car did 98 Nurburgring lap over a weekend with 2 tyre changes in between and the brake pedal never went long. However, it was using brand new Sicom discs/pads/cooling kit and not the refurbished discs.
Our 997 GT3 RS test car has been doing 2-3 long race distances, testing and racing on the same set of refurbished discs before being examined and had no issues. All undertaken by professional racing drivers who know warm up procedures, cool down laps etc it must be said
For standard road use only, significantly longer than a steel disc is what we usually tell our customers.
The refurbished discs and new complete kits are made from the same material.
If you follow our Twitter page there are plenty of pictures of the GT3 RS on track!
Schermerhorn said:
RWD cossie wil said:
From brand new, what sort of life/milage would you expect from the 996 380mm discs/pads upgrade kit?
Car would be mainly road use but with some trackdays, Nurburgring & Vmac runs...
Hard to quanitify with an answer.Car would be mainly road use but with some trackdays, Nurburgring & Vmac runs...
It all depends on how you drive on the road, how hard you drive on the track etc.
Put it this way, our GT2 test car did 98 Nurburgring lap over a weekend with 2 tyre changes in between and the brake pedal never went long. However, it was using brand new Sicom discs/pads/cooling kit and not the refurbished discs.
Our 997 GT3 RS test car has been doing 2-3 long race distances, testing and racing on the same set of refurbished discs before being examined and had no issues. All undertaken by professional racing drivers who know warm up procedures, cool down laps etc it must be said
For standard road use only, significantly longer than a steel disc is what we usually tell our customers.
The refurbished discs and new complete kits are made from the same material.
If you follow our Twitter page there are plenty of pictures of the GT3 RS on track!
I was looking at your kit for the 996 turbo that is circa £5500 GBP, thinking that in the long run maybe the saving on discs & pads might work out close to running steels..... Interesting Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff