GT3 RS 1st road test.

[keep it lit]

APOLO1 said:

LaSource said:

Yep, an element of truth to that. Even back in the late 80s once your front engined/rear wheel car had more than 250 bhp it was already beginning to break traction if pressed on enthusiastically on the road. My E39 M5 from 2002 is technically too powerful for the unknowing boy racer if it did not have some granny aids.

Until recently the 911s managed to overcome rear grip by having the engine over the wheels, but I guess 420+ bhp is about the limit

At times I smile, they spent the best part of 40 years?, trying to get the back end to go round a corner, then someone decided to bring in RWS.......

looking forward to the EVO vid....

Are you a sales executive for RWS?

[APOLO1]

keep it lit said:

Are you a sales executive for RWS?

for me, along with the PDK-S box, its what completely transform's the 991GT3 over the earlier cars,...

[fioran0]

But in which direction is the transformation? The perspective on this is really at the heart of the discussions around the new car. Though in the modern reductive way, debate is mostly framed as a binary position yelling about PDK.
We should be able to do better in terms of conversation.

Having seen several 991 GT3's on track now, what struck me was the mid corner, self effected, yaw changes the car now clearly presents. The only other car I have seen make such pronounced changes in the same circumstances is the GTR. (note for the sensitive. this is an observation, not a disparaging snipe. there is no opinion contained within that)
These changes are simply the various systems (including RWS and torque vectoring) working away to keep things within predefined parameters. In one sense it is no big deal, but as you mention the word "transformation" it felt interesting to post since unquestionably one has very much taken place. The GT3 has moved firmly into the present after years or standing against the rushing waters.

[robgt3]

Have a look at Autocar's latest track test of the RS. Driver makes some interesting comparisons with the GT4

[Harris_I]

APOLO1 said:

At times I smile, they spent the best part of 40 years?, trying to get the back end to go round a corner, then someone decided to bring in RWS.......

looking forward to the EVO vid....

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The 911 has always been fabulous through the corners. It's not the car's fault people can't be bothered to learn it.

[APOLO1]

Harris_I said:

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The 911 has always been fabulous through the corners. It's not the car's fault people can't be bothered to learn it.

after 35 years in 911s, I would agree with that, but times change, more sales, more bhp, much more,, ie the tech stuff is required, doesn't mean its not as much fun to drive though....

[Scooty100]

APOLO1 said:

after 35 years in 911s, I would agree with that, but times change, more sales, more bhp, much more,, ie the tech stuff is required, doesn't mean its not as much fun to drive though....

Thoughts turn to the 6RS with no TC etc.........

[RDMcG]

Fairly complete and well documented review here:


http://www.9tro.com/features/new-cars/porsche-gt3-...

[robgt3]

RDMcG said:

Fairly complete and well documented review here:


http://www.9tro.com/features/new-cars/porsche-gt3-...

+1

[PorscheGT4]

again watch the track vid, no one gets to 8+k revs

only time to see max revs is when they do it for the camera to make a point, on road tests and tracks bar a straight, the cars never manage to get up that rev range !!

must be very fustrating

[V8KSN]

PorscheGT4 said:

again watch the track vid, no one gets to 8+k revs

only time to see max revs is when they do it for the camera to make a point, on road tests and tracks bar a straight, the cars never manage to get up that rev range !!

must be very fustrating

With most high performance cars, you will struggle to use all the revs all the time, its what makes the moments (when you can use all the revs) all the more special and memorable.

The GT4 will be the same.

Having said that, I spent a weekend in Wales not long ago and I managed to use the car to its full potential in all gears

[APOLO1]

robgt3 said:

+1

thanks for posting the vid, my understanding is that this 7.20 time is very very "conservative"........

[PorscheGT4]

V8KSN said:

With most high performance cars, you will struggle to use all the revs all the time, its what makes the moments (when you can use all the revs) all the more special and memorable.

The GT4 will be the same.

Having said that, I spent a weekend in Wales not long ago and I managed to use the car to its full potential in all gears

and me, GT3's still get in the way though :-p, must be why they cover their number plates ! :-)
1st time out on track this year with new mods, car was amazing.

Edited by PorscheGT4 on Friday 29th May 11:17

[IMI A]

[RSVP911]

First EVO video - he looks as happy as a pig in poop - enjoy

http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911-gt3-rs

[APOLO1]

RSVP911 said:

First EVO video - he looks as happy as a pig in poop - enjoy

http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911-gt3-rs

Thanks for this R, best vid so far imv......so much for any concerns regarding "interaction" fun to drive......

Edited by APOLO1 on Saturday 30th May 06:51

[RSVP911]

APOLO1 said:

Thanks for this R, best vid so far imv......so much for any concerns regarding "interaction" fun to drive......

Edited by APOLO1 on Saturday 30th May 06:51

Morning - yep best so far by a mile - loved watching the lap - usually nothing more boring - but that was epic ! Also the journalist was just 100% genuinely as pleased as punch to be driving it - it all felt very real and not as forced as the CH review - I am VERY excited now ! Word on the street is PTS is up for grabs too - ummmmmmmm ?????

[AndrewD]

APOLO1 said:

RSVP911 said:

First EVO video - he looks as happy as a pig in poop - enjoy

http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911-gt3-rs

Thanks for this R, best vid so far imv......so much for any concerns regarding "interaction" fun to drive......

Edited by APOLO1 on Saturday 30th May 06:51

Indeed. Morning to the PH grannies, no hard feeling ladies eh? Car is epic, sure different, but epic, that's clear

[APOLO1]

RSVP911 said:

Morning - yep best so far by a mile - loved watching the lap - usually nothing more boring - but that was epic ! Also the journalist was just 100% genuinely as pleased as punch to be driving it - it all felt very real and not as forced as the CH review - I am VERY excited now ! Word on the street is PTS is up for grabs too - ummmmmmmm ?????

I like Evos vids, they set the bench mark imv....I would even pay to watch em...they don't seem bothered about hits, just make brilliant vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dss44VBDN8
This has to be top of my Fav list

PTS, is that not for next year though....? sticking with Lava, for RHD......

Edited by APOLO1 on Saturday 30th May 08:52

[RSVP911]

APOLO1 said:

I like Evos vids, they set the bench mark imv....I would even pay to watch em...they don't seem bothered about hits, just make brilliant vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dss44VBDN8
This has to be top of my Fav list

PTS, is that not for next year though....? sticking with Lava, for RHD......

Edited by APOLO1 on Saturday 30th May 08:52

Yep - fantastic vid - looking forward to the inevitable head to head with the Speciale - should be fun