New 911 GT car in pipeline

New 911 GT car in pipeline

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cc3

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2,800 posts

117 months

lemmingjames

7,462 posts

205 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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GT name being sullied, what with the GT4 having hand me down parts and non motorsport engine to this.

How long will be until we see GTXX Black Ed. and so on

V8KSN

4,711 posts

185 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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cc3 said:
As much as I would like it to happen, it's an Autocar report so its all probably bks hehe

Cant help but feel if they wanted to make a 'back to basics' car championing mechanical interaction and involvement with an exploitable chassis over an electronically assisted quick-as-possible machine then they would be better off making a pared-back, stripped-down Cayman rather than a 911.

Cheib

23,278 posts

176 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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So this is basically a way of bringing a manual box to the GT3 without upsetting all the owners who wanted a manual GT3 and now own a PDK GT3 ?!?!

lemmingjames

7,462 posts

205 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Or will they do an Aston with the cygnat, ie buy up all the unsold Toyota GT-86's, stick on a 911 front and call it the new 968 GT?

996GT2

2,649 posts

211 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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V8KSN said:
As much as I would like it to happen, it's an Autocar report so its all probably bks hehe
Yep. Someone's probably seen a gen 2 GTS being tested and they've put 2 and 2 together and created another autocar exclusive.


Mario149

7,758 posts

179 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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cc3 said:
If it's true, I suspect a few PHers here will have just had a "moment" smile

I wonder how they'd go about it in theory?

Base 991 Carrera
6/7 speed manual 'box with a shorter final drive
Some GT3 suspensiony bits with X73 type sports suspension
Some weight saving a la rear seats delete and other minor bits
PTV/mechanical diff
Lightweight 19" wheels
Sports exhaust
Bucket seats

Job jobbed? I'd go for it if it was pitched at £80K or so

DMC2

1,834 posts

212 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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lemmingjames said:
GT name being sullied, what with the GT4 having hand me down parts and non motorsport engine to this.

How long will be until we see GTXX Black Ed. and so on
Is that in the same way the 991 GT3 has a non motorsport engine? And I hate to tell you, a lot of the parts which are hand me down on the GT4 were handed down to the GT3 from the cup car.

braddo

10,522 posts

189 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Mario149 said:
If it's true, I suspect a few PHers here will have just had a "moment" smile

I wonder how they'd go about it in theory?

Base 991 Carrera
6/7 speed manual 'box with a shorter final drive
Some GT3 suspensiony bits with X73 type sports suspension
Some weight saving a la rear seats delete and other minor bits
PTV/mechanical diff
Lightweight 19" wheels
Sports exhaust
Bucket seats

Job jobbed? I'd go for it if it was pitched at £80K or so
Sounds good. Maybe a 3.4 or 3.6 version of the GT3 engine (400-420hp), 18" wheels on non-Cup tyres, lighter flywheel; GT3 steering and brake pedal feel.

DLovett

329 posts

164 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Bye bye 997/996 GT3/RS values?

EricE

1,945 posts

130 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Very interested in this. Less race-car, more driver's car. GT4 was a step in the right direction but still too competent to feel it "move around" on the road.

Pricing will be crucial.
In theory there is no reason why a stripped, back-to-basics 991 should sell for more than a standard 991 C2 but let's face it, £80k is probably more realistic.

edit: The more I think about it the more excited I get. Narrowbody, maximum weight reductions, no gaudy aero with huge splitters and wings, just a really focused car for the road with a N/A engine and manual gear box.
Sounds like Walter Röhrl's dream, indubitably enabled by the sale success of the Cayman GT4.

Edited by EricE on Thursday 4th June 18:32

swimd

350 posts

122 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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lemmingjames said:
Or will they do an Aston with the cygnat, ie buy up all the unsold Toyota GT-86's, stick on a 911 front and call it the new 968 GT?
They would sell shedloads of them, we all know this. I like the idea.

DMC2

1,834 posts

212 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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EricE said:
GT4 was a step in the right direction but still too competent to feel it "move around" on the road.
Edited by EricE on Thursday 4th June 18:32
Really? When did you drive it?

DT398

1,745 posts

149 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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EricE said:
edit: The more I think about it the more excited I get. Narrowbody, maximum weight reductions, no gaudy aero with huge splitters and wings, just a really focused car for the road with a N/A engine and manual gear box
Already exists. It's called a 996 GT3

LaSource

2,622 posts

209 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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EricE said:
Very interested in this. Less race-car, more driver's car. GT4 was a step in the right direction but still too competent to feel it "move around" on the road.

Pricing will be crucial.
In theory there is no reason why a stripped, back-to-basics 991 should sell for more than a standard 991 C2 but let's face it, £80k is probably more realistic.

edit: The more I think about it the more excited I get. Narrowbody, maximum weight reductions, no gaudy aero with huge splitters and wings, just a really focused car for the road with a N/A engine and manual gear box.
Sounds like Walter Röhrl's dream, indubitably enabled by the sale success of the Cayman GT4.

Edited by EricE on Thursday 4th June 18:32
Walter does not look terribly excited in the recent 991 RS in car / on track videos...

Upnorthgt3

605 posts

144 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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DLovett said:
Bye bye 997/996 GT3/RS values?
Oh I bet that would just make your day wouldn't it...............

EricE

1,945 posts

130 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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DMC2 said:
Really? When did you drive it?
Last week...

J-P

4,351 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Mario149 said:
cc3 said:
If it's true, I suspect a few PHers here will have just had a "moment" smile

I wonder how they'd go about it in theory?

Base 991 Carrera
6/7 speed manual 'box with a shorter final drive
Some GT3 suspensiony bits with X73 type sports suspension
Some weight saving a la rear seats delete and other minor bits
PTV/mechanical diff
Lightweight 19" wheels
Sports exhaust
Bucket seats

Job jobbed? I'd go for it if it was pitched at £80K or so
So would I - sounds absolutely lovely!

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

210 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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DLovett said:
Bye bye 997/996 GT3/RS values?
Not even the tiniest chance of that.

r4_rick

454 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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mollytherocker said:
Not even the tiniest chance of that.
phew, good to read some reassuring comments smile