996 prices

[LordHaveMurci]

sib8292 said:

So - since I'm thinking of selling my 2005 reg Midnight Blue 996 C4S auto with Bise, memory seat, good condition with new discs/ pads all round, and 65k - what's that worth do we think?

Top lurking.

[LordHaveMurci]

shantybeater said:

I don't think 997 prices will govern 996 prices, the cars are after-all different enough. There are two reasons people believe a 997 is 'infinitely better' than a 996 - The headlights & the interior. Both are cosmetic and a matter of opinion. When the 997 was new and just released it made the 996 look old to some/most, now both are old and I actually believe the 996 is ageing better, especially the interior

I agree, a lot of people seem to be thinking the 996 looks cleaner & purer than the 997 now they are both getting on a bit. Just a shame my 3.4 996 isn't an earlier car on ambers, may have to wait a bit longer for it to be 'desirable'...!

[Adam B]

LordHaveMurci said:

I agree, two 996 owners seem to be thinking the 996 looks cleaner & purer than the 997 now they are both getting on a bit.

EFA

Edited by Adam B on Friday 19th June 16:30

[shantybeater]

Adam B said:

EFA

Yes that's my opinion, I'm sure plenty of others prefer the 997. Point is the majority of reasons for preference between the two is cosmetic which is down to the personal choice, so I don't see 997 prices affecting 996's

Edited by shantybeater on Friday 19th June 16:01

[fastgerman]

1) £26k - get it sold
2) comparing to a 997, come off it, the 997 is the most beautiful of them all ;-)

[Adam B]

shantybeater said:

Yes that's my opinion, I'm sure plenty of others prefer the 997. Point is the majority of reasons for preference between the two is cosmetic which is down to the personal choice, so I don't see 997 prices affecting 996's

Agree with you that the differences a largely cosmetic although for the model I was after it included a meaningful 60bhp increase. I am not a 996 hater, indeed I was initially looking to buy a 996 turbo, I do think the 997 is prettier and I prefer the rear spoiler of the 7t, but the interior is streets ahead - IMHO obviously.

In terms of impacts on value I think it is more meaningful to judge the views of those who don't currently a 996 or 997

[rubystone]

LordHaveMurci said:

Yes I do. The 964 was not popular until quite recently, your car is clearly worth more than £16k & 997's are not infinitely more desirable than 996's, this may be my personal opinion however.

Lot's of people on here with far more knowledge than me believe 996 prices are, or will, rise.

You're dead right IMHO. I'm old enough to remember how derided the 964 was. I'm also old enough to to remember when the SC was looked down on by 3.2 owners.

I think that the 996 has a way to go before an 18k miles non S trades for £26k. So I'd take that offer...

[Billy_Whizzzz]

shantybeater said:

Adam B said:

EFA

Yes that's my opinion, I'm sure plenty of others prefer the 997. Point is the majority of reasons for preference between the two is cosmetic which is down to the personal choice, so I don't see 997 prices affecting 996's

Well, it isn't 'just' cosmetic but the entire external styling... Far from there being minor differences between the two, the 997 is better proportioned in every way and looks better from every angle. The. 997 looks a bit lumpy from most angles, unlike the 997. In terms of values, I'd happily pay £26k for a 997 but the most I'd pay for a 996 in any condition is about £12k -and I speak as someone that has just bought one. So, like me, I suspect that there are many others that are buying 996s because they can't yet afford a Gen 2 997 and the Gen 1 997 is looking a bit too risky for £26k, so a punt on an old 996 to tide you over until Gen 2 997 prices drop to below £30k is well worth it. Like me, many posters on this thread seem to be 996 owners, and like it or not, the 996 has come in for far more negative criticism that the 964 ever did - which always looked perfect. And SC owners may have been looked down on, but again, at least it looked perfect. So, as we were- bite his hand off if you've been offered strong money as 996 prices will always fall behind 997.

[Polome]

anonymous said:

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Couldn't put it better myself...over ten years in a '99 996 manual and now in my third year of 997 ( gen2) . The later car is faster, corners better, stops better and ...my wife loves it. As an everyday car the 997 is a great all rounder...if it's the better drivers car an early 996 ( for all of the above) takes the beans.

[LordHaveMurci]

I seem to remember the 996 surprising a lot of people when it did so well in the EVO 911 group test a year or two back.

But I'm sure most on here have driven them all too & know better

[Billy_Whizzzz]

anonymous said:

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I'd probably agree with you there - I also have a BMW z4M which on the face of it are better than better than Z3M - even the one with the S54 - and have to say I'd always assumed that Z4M prices would cap Z3s but that doesn't seem the case. Also with E36 M3s - always unloved and overshadowed by E46 M3s - surprise surprise they seem to be coming out of the doldrums and the good ones are rising in value. As you say, as the cheaper 996s disappear, the good ones will retain their value and rise.

[RT]

Thanks for the views.

I tend to agree that the 996 is underrated. I love the thing. Even the looks have held their own and maybe even improved a little with age. Mines a facelift so no fried eggs.

Also benefits from sports chassis, full carbon, Bose, polar, PSE and a carrera aerokit from new.

I guess the question is whether it's going to ever be worth significantly more than 26k....

RT

Edited by RT on Sunday 21st June 11:33

[NJH]

RT said:

I guess the question is whether it's going to ever be worth significantly more than 26k....

RT

Edited by RT on Sunday 21st June 11:33

Not really. The only question that matters is what would you do with the £26k? If you have your eye on another car which may also appreciate then it sort of neutralises that area of concern. The ole cost to change thing.

[Magic919]

I'd be cashing out now if a dealer offered me that.

[rubystone]

NJH said:

Not really. The only question that matters is what would you do with the £26k? If you have your eye on another car which may also appreciate then it sort of neutralises that area of concern. The ole cost to change thing.

I'd buy a 60k mile early 996 and pocket at least £14k and not worry about having to keep the mileage down. Job done...

[Chlorothalonil]

I would take the money, no question. You could always buy another one at a lower price, or look out for a 996 Turbo - there are still some out there if you look hard enough.

[Mario149]

rubystone said:

I'd buy a 60k mile early 996 and pocket at least £14k and not worry about having to keep the mileage down. Job done...

I think this is sensible. £26K is strong money for a 996, even in C4S form. Buy a higher mileage one, pocket the difference.

[NJH]

That's the idea. Buy a decent 60k miler, drive it like you stole it and don't worry about it as there is 10 grand in the kitty. About as low stress as one could get with these cars. Spend the other 4 on a nice touring holiday road trip in the thing.

[Crimp]

Basically what I did, bought a cheaper Pork then bought a house and rented it out.

[Mad March Taffy]

Check out the estimate here....

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Better start polishing mine....