996 prices

[TOV!E]

Billy_Whizzzz said:

I think my values may have been out by a couple of K (ie too high) but I still believe the principle to be right - ie values held or capped by 997 and always less desirable than a 997. Delighted to be proved wrong though!

you wont be proved wrong, earlier 996 cars are now give away prices, my brother has been trying to sell his quick and dealers have offered him around £7000 for a year 2000 with 76000 miles, manual, full loaded in silver with full main dealer history, the 996 is the dog of the 911s he has been told, unless its a turbo get rid asap

Edit to quote Pistonheads this week "values of 996s are on the floor. We're talking Boxster-level. As in £8K. 997s have rapidly followed the descent of the 996, and early ones are now as cheap as late 996s".

Edited by TOV!E on Friday 26th June 15:43

[LordHaveMurci]

TOV!E said:

you wont be proved wrong, earlier 996 cars are now give away prices, my brother has been trying to sell his quick and dealers have offered him around £7000 for a year 2000 with 76000 miles, manual, full loaded in silver with full main dealer history, the 996 is the dog of the 911s he has been told, unless its a turbo get rid asap

Edit to quote Pistonheads this week "values of 996s are on the floor. We're talking Boxster-level. As in £8K. 997s have rapidly followed the descent of the 996, and early ones are now as cheap as late 996s".

Edited by TOV!E on Friday 26th June 15:43

And 964's were never the same of course, and 3.0SC's before them and so on & so on...

Only time will tell who's right.

[Moosh]

yummy, time to buy myself a nice tidy 996

[Black_mamba]

Mad March Taffy said:

Check out the estimate here....

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Better start polishing mine....

Coys are pants at estimating cars, and pretty pants at selling them and really pants about paying you! They wanted mine for the same auction, came round gave me all the gush its worth £Value ++ cos its such a nice car we'll have people fighting over it, look great in our glossy brochure etc etc. This was just before their Ascot sale, I'm local so I went along to see what all the fuss was all about. Each car got about 30 seconds bid time, not one of the cars I saw made estimate (the results on their website include the buyers premium at 10% btw, not hammer price) (there's also the sellers commission at 10%, nice business they are in, 20% for fack all!) I left realising that I should do it myself, I later met a chap who had 2 cars sell in the auction (below estimate) and 6 weeks later still hadn't been paid for them, despite Coys having the Buyers cash!) he had to go up the the showroom in Richmond where they still tried to serve out of it until he kicked up a fuss, he still only got a cheque for one car! Needless to say not going down that route.

[DanoS4]

Have to admit now that my 996 C4 has 102k on it, the prices are going north again. In the grand scheme of things, even with a Hartech rebuild, the value increase has significantly dented what the car owes me.

Rather chuffed tbh

Keeping hold of it, as I now know the car very well, although a 996 Turbo would possibly turn my head

Here's a pic for the haters no doubt worth all of 50p



Dan

[IknowJoseph]

TOV!E said:

the 996 is the dog of the 911s he has been told,

I would also tell your brother that if I was trying to buy a car off him

[Mad March Taffy]

Black_mamba said:

Coys are pants at estimating cars, and pretty pants at selling them and really pants about paying you! They wanted mine for the same auction, came round gave me all the gush its worth £Value ++ cos its such a nice car we'll have people fighting over it, look great in our glossy brochure etc etc. This was just before their Ascot sale, I'm local so I went along to see what all the fuss was all about. Each car got about 30 seconds bid time, not one of the cars I saw made estimate (the results on their website include the buyers premium at 10% btw, not hammer price) (there's also the sellers commission at 10%, nice business they are in, 20% for fack all!) I left realising that I should do it myself, I later met a chap who had 2 cars sell in the auction (below estimate) and 6 weeks later still hadn't been paid for them, despite Coys having the Buyers cash!) he had to go up the the showroom in Richmond where they still tried to serve out of it until he kicked up a fuss, he still only got a cheque for one car! Needless to say not going down that route.

So, not a glowing recommendation then? Still curious to see how much this makes...

[rubystone]

TOV!E said:

you wont be proved wrong, earlier 996 cars are now give away prices, my brother has been trying to sell his quick and dealers have offered him around £7000 for a year 2000 with 76000 miles, manual, full loaded in silver with full main dealer history, the 996 is the dog of the 911s he has been told, unless its a turbo get rid asap

Edit to quote Pistonheads this week "values of 996s are on the floor. We're talking Boxster-level. As in £8K. 997s have rapidly followed the descent of the 996, and early ones are now as cheap as late 996s".

Edited by TOV!E on Friday 26th June 15:43

It's a manual coupe? With FPSH? If so, ping me and I'll be serious about offering above that trade bid.

[hygt2]

I guess the price different between a good (one that has a rebuild) and a bad condition one is still relatively small, and certainly not enough to include an engine rebuild. However, as most of the bad one got scrap / broken for parts, the value of 996 will rise. Just looked at the facelift 944 Turbo - I remembered a decent one could be had for c.£4,000 not that long ago but the same car is now worth twice as much because most of the bad ones have disappeared.

(I guess I have missed the boat on the 944 Turbo as well as I had with the NSX, E30 M3, etc. ...)

[Rob1178]

For a brand new, "wet behind the ears probably bought the wrong one" 996 Carrera 4 owner this thread is an excellent read!

Always wanted a 911, I saw the 996 as the only real entry point given current prices. IMS horror tales initially had me wary but some further digging showed that perhaps this is overstated and happens on poorly maintained examples.

I won't embarrass myself by admitting how much I paid but I did so with eyes wide open and the drive home from the dealer was everything you'd hope for in a 911.

Id be interested to know what constitutes a 'good one' when it comes to increased desireability. Is it age, spec, miles...which is the key element to making your 996 a good one?

First time poster and 1 day of ownership, so forgive my wide eyed naivety!!

[Billy_Whizzzz]

Rob1178 said:

For a brand new, "wet behind the ears probably bought the wrong one" 996 Carrera 4 owner this thread is an excellent read!

Always wanted a 911, I saw the 996 as the only real entry point given current prices. IMS horror tales initially had me wary but some further digging showed that perhaps this is overstated and happens on poorly maintained examples.

I won't embarrass myself by admitting how much I paid but I did so with eyes wide open and the drive home from the dealer was everything you'd hope for in a 911.

Id be interested to know what constitutes a 'good one' when it comes to increased desireability. Is it age, spec, miles...which is the key element to making your 996 a good one?

First time poster and 1 day of ownership, so forgive my wide eyed naivety!!

I'm a first time 911 (996 C4) owner. I've always admired 997s and never particularly liked 996s, and was vaguely keeping an eye on 997 prices which were looking tempting but soon realised I wanted a Gen 2 997 as really have been put off by bore score issues. So, not wanting to sell any of my other cars and not wanting to take a risk on a Gen 1 997, I realised that actually 996s weren't quite as bad looking as if remembered. They're incredibly spec dependent and I think that they only work in silver or black and need the 18 inch wheels, black interior, sports wheels and then they're not too bad. Weirdly it's not the lights that bother me the most but the rest of it that however you look at it just doesn't look as good as a 997! Anyway, without really looking, a 996 C4 in black on black with FSH came up and given that it had had preventative IMS done, looked too good to miss. Like you, my drive home was deliciously exciting and now I'm delighted to be in 911 for minimal risk while I save up for a 997 G2! What's not to like? For me, there's certainly the 911 experience as dynamically they're not much difference from early 997s and they (or at least mine does) sounds fantastic! It fees a little loose and a bit slow compared to my Z4M, but that's not really the point - I find myself wafting around, just enjoying its tactility...
So, my advice is to have fun and enjoy and not worry too much what the 'right' spec is.

[YoungMD]

Well after one year of looking at 996 and 997.1 I finally bought a 997.1, BUT not because I think the 997.1 is better, for me they are very similar, mechanically porsche claim 70% different or some nonsense but to me a lay person all the engine etc looks similar.

997.1 you need to be extra careful, 3rd radiator and temp sense etc, but have o say my only preference is the 997 interior, but I like the thinner back of the 996 more than 997.

If I had another £15 I would be buying a 996 as it has the be in C2 form is next big riser, a.ways happens, turbo first then slowly C2, I only bought a 997.1 as I saw a very good one with an OCD owner for £20k, and I saw no really good 996 for less than £18k

[Crimp]

I need to get me a 996 Carrera C2 soon, the more hatred the more I want one to compliment my turbo.
Obviously everybody are buying rusty Impact Bumper 911's for £30k plus
The wise man will buy the 996 and enjoy the price rise over the next 2 yrs.

[shantybeater]

Crimp said:

I need to get me a 996 Carrera C2 soon, the more hatred the more I want one to compliment my turbo.
Obviously everybody are buying rusty Impact Bumper 911's for £30k plus
The wise man will buy the 996 and enjoy the price rise over the next 2 yrs.

Seconded, a basic C2, manual, in silver. They just seem to be growing old very gracefully!

[Tydeides]

I've had my 997 C4S for years now.

I was quite keen on the 996 GT3 RS, but I didn't like the headlights and my wife thought it uncomfortable.

So the compromise was a997 with aero kit which I loved the look of and ticked all the boxes. Driving it out of the dealers was a good day!

Generally now it just gets dusty in my garage as I use other cars more, but an Epic fail if I'm assessing current value of cars. I certainly couldn't have done over 100,000 miles in a 996 GT RS!

[Tydeides]

I've had my 997 C4S for years now.

I was quite keen on the 996 GT3 RS, but I didn't like the headlights and my wife thought it uncomfortable.

So the compromise was a997 with aero kit which I loved the look of and ticked all the boxes. Driving it out of the dealers was a good day!

Generally now it just gets dusty in my garage as I use other cars more, but an Epic fail if I'm assessing current value of cars. I certainly couldn't have done over 100,000 miles in a 996 GT RS!

[monthefish]

LordHaveMurci said:

TOV!E said:

you wont be proved wrong, earlier 996 cars are now give away prices, my brother has been trying to sell his quick and dealers have offered him around £7000 for a year 2000 with 76000 miles, manual, full loaded in silver with full main dealer history, the 996 is the dog of the 911s he has been told, unless its a turbo get rid asap

Edit to quote Pistonheads this week "values of 996s are on the floor. We're talking Boxster-level. As in £8K. 997s have rapidly followed the descent of the 996, and early ones are now as cheap as late 996s".

Edited by TOV!E on Friday 26th June 15:43

And 964's were never the same of course, and 3.0SC's before them and so on & so on...

Only time will tell who's right.

Good post.

TOV!E said:

"values of 996s are on the floor."

Exactly.
TOV!E - do you understand what this phrase means? The prices are rock-bottom. They can't go any lower. Yes, I think you'd be a fool to expect sudden or rapid appreciation, but there shouldn't be any depreciation, and there are very few cars in the world that you can say that about.

[dank]

agree with the standard silver C2 996 being a lovely machine, i am very tempted by these too, sleek, slimline and elegant, prices quite strong for a decent one though, £18k ish?

[Billy_Whizzzz]

dank said:

agree with the standard silver C2 996 being a lovely machine, i am very tempted by these too, sleek, slimline and elegant, prices quite strong for a decent one though, £18k ish?

Agree. Everyone raves about the turbo and GT3 but I can't stand the way they look - body kits and spoilers (except ducktail of course) are anathema to the simple and understated elegance of that simple 911 shape.

[RT]

Well - after some deliberation and talking to a few more dealers I decided to 'bite his arm off' - so it's sold and replaced with a nice 987.

It's up for sale in the OPC network - and is a stunner if anyone is after the ultimate 996 C2.

Whether it will every be collectible, time will tell.

RT

Edited by RT on Friday 24th July 22:33