Inspection misses clocked car

Inspection misses clocked car

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Scooty100

1,469 posts

116 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Hugo911 said:
Agree I was lucky, but then one of the reasons I bought from this dealer was his reputation. Paid a fair price for the car initially so he clearly trades on his reputation and hence makes enough money on each car so he can stand by it for future problems.

I can imagine most dealers telling me where to go or blaming me/hand of God!

The good news is not many people seem to have come across clocked cars... Which either is a good thing as there's not many out there... Or a bad thing if people have unknown clocked cars, especially if people "properly" clock cars and leave no discrepancy between dash and ECU.
Well done for sticking with the dealer with a decent rep. I'd heard poor feedback with the one that legged me over but never thought it could be that bad. How wrong I was but hey you live and learn.

I'd say the older aircooled cars are susceptible to clocking for sure

m33ufo

4,959 posts

231 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Curious how the dealer who purchased the car is going to advertise it for resale?

gowmonster

2,471 posts

167 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Hugo911 said:
davek_964 said:
Which leads to an interesting question.

If the dealer is able to check the mileage against the ECU - how did he originally buy (and sell to you) a clocked car?
THAT my friend is the million dollar question... it shows up nicely on his equipment there is a discrepancy.

Two years ago how he AND the guy who did my £400 inspection (which includes mileage check) did not spot this at the time is what puzzles me!
is it possible that something can be recording it wrong?

I have no idea how these things work, whether something is the master and it is replicated to other devices or whether there are some sort of counters that count miles and there is a fault somewhere

m33ufo said:
Curious how the dealer who purchased the car is going to advertise it for resale?
keep it as a courtesy car?

sell it as not guaranteed mileage? punt it at auction? trade sale to another trader?

m33ufo

4,959 posts

231 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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gowmonster said:
keep it as a courtesy car?

sell it as not guaranteed mileage? punt it at auction? trade sale to another trader?
So most likely someone buys it who has no knowledge that it's been clocked.

Would be nice to see the car in question to protect an enthusiast from buying it in the future.

gowmonster

2,471 posts

167 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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m33ufo said:
gowmonster said:
keep it as a courtesy car?

sell it as not guaranteed mileage? punt it at auction? trade sale to another trader?
So most likely someone buys it who has no knowledge that it's been clocked.

Would be nice to see the car in question to protect an enthusiast from buying it in the future.
They could sell it honestly and price accordingly and someone could buy it on condition. I bought a banger on a private sale and asked about mileage and they said that it wasn't the correct mileage on the clocks so i bought it on condition, very different to a pricey porsche mind you.

They couldn't lose much on 57k miles could they? if it was clocked using digital correction then surely they could do the reverse and set it to whatever the highest count is? would that me illegal?

Hugo911

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220 posts

105 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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So I emailed Mr "leading Porsche inspection chap in the UK" and he hasn't even had the decency to respond to a polite email:

Dear <name>

You inspected a car I was purchasing from <dealer>.

The car was a 997.1 Tip, reg <reg>.

I was attempting to sell the car recently and an inspection arranged by the prospective buyer revealed a discrepancy on the mileage. The odometer is showing c7,000 lower mileage than the ECU.

The inspection chap suggested my buyer walk away from this car, as I imagine you would have too as the findings imply the mileage of the car has been tampered with.

<Original dealer> have accepted the car has an issue on the mileage and after some discussion agreed to purchase the car back from me.

As you can imagine I am unhappy that your inspection did not uncover this discrepancy at the time of inspection. I was fortunate that I purchased from <dealer> and they stood by their car, I would clearly have no recourse having purchased the same car privately.

Having discussed this matter on the forums, the consensus is that I should request my inspection cost back from you. I’ve not revealed your name on the forum as providing the original inspection, so my discretion is assured.

I would therefore request that you refund me the amount I paid for the inspection (c£400) as clearly this is something that I would expect the inspection to have picked up.

I await your response.

MRPULLHARD

318 posts

131 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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name and shame inspector !

cat with a hat

1,484 posts

118 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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hartech said:
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Interesting perspective smile

fridaypassion

8,545 posts

228 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Interesting resurrection as I bought an aircooled Porsche with the "high" mileage of 205k. We are currently doing a backdate on it but inside is solid and apart from A gearbox rebuild it's all original. Funny that almost all aircooled cars have 90-100k on the clock but have had much more thorough restorations needing much much more work. If you scan the ads the lack of variation in the mileage of aircooled cars is laughable.