991 GT3 Advice Please

991 GT3 Advice Please

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sone

Original Poster:

4,585 posts

237 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I've been looking for a track toy come weekend hoon car and no matter what I look at all roads lead back to 991 GT3.
I'd like a CS spec car but wondered what questions I should be asking about the history of the car, I know many have had engine changes under warranty so should I look for one with a new engine or not. Are there any must have options etc?
I know nobody likes talking about residuals and nobody knows in reality but if I'm paying 130-140k for a car what would you budget to lose in say 12months and 5k miles.

Cheers

Steve

GreatGranny

9,097 posts

225 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Pretty sure all engines were changed.

Huge thread on here when it was all going on.


sidicks

25,218 posts

220 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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GreatGranny said:
Pretty sure all engines were changed.

Huge thread on here when it was all going on.
Obviously apart from the later builds, who had the same engines installed at the factory.

Buy on spec / condition etc

5517

1,952 posts

244 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I'm on engine 3 now and have a feeling others will be joining me shortly.

Most cars on engine 2 have done no miles or track work so if there is a fault it hasn't shown up yet.

All cars are still covered by the 2 year warranty, most have a 3 year warranty and some a 4 year warranty so its not an issue as Porsche will, if needed, slip a third engine in for you.

You will love the car for sure smile

Patent

804 posts

172 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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sone said:
I know nobody likes talking about residuals and nobody knows in reality but if I'm paying 130-140k for a car what would you budget to lose in say 12months and 5k miles.

Cheers

Steve
Lose? Have you not been following any of the residual value threads? You will make money in 12 months my friend! Av185 will be along shortly to tell you how much.

There's certainly plenty to choose from at the moment. Owners certainly seem willing to cash in, despite the cars mythical status.

sone

Original Poster:

4,585 posts

237 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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5517 said:
I'm on engine 3 now and have a feeling others will be joining me shortly.

Most cars on engine 2 have done no miles or track work so if there is a fault it hasn't shown up yet.

All cars are still covered by the 2 year warranty, most have a 3 year warranty and some a 4 year warranty so its not an issue as Porsche will, if needed, slip a third engine in for you.

You will love the car for sure smile
Good grief that's a bit sobering. So I need to budget for an engine every couple of years once out of warranty?

sone

Original Poster:

4,585 posts

237 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Patent said:
sone said:
I know nobody likes talking about residuals and nobody knows in reality but if I'm paying 130-140k for a car what would you budget to lose in say 12months and 5k miles.

Cheers

Steve
Lose? Have you not been following any of the residual value threads? You will make money in 12 months my friend! Av185 will be along shortly to tell you how much.

There's certainly plenty to choose from at the moment. Owners certainly seem willing to cash in, despite the cars mythical status.
Hmmm, make money I doubt it very much given my track record. I did notice that 4 or 5 were for sale 6 months ago and now 45 on PH alone so that surely has to effect values?
I've read all the opinions that people have got out of the Gt3 to take delivery of their RS but is this true or do people see the top of the market so have jumped ship.

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

264 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I'll sell you my GT4 £40k cheaper than a GT3 and you get to change gear yourself ;-)

sone

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237 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
I'll sell you my GT4 £40k cheaper than a GT3 and you get to change gear yourself ;-)
Thanks but no thanks, I'm over the old pudding stirrer gearboxes (-:

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

264 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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sone said:
Thanks but no thanks, I'm over the old pudding stirrer gearboxes (-:
Are you not enjoying the Exige ?

drmark

4,794 posts

185 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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re depreciation, as you say, who knows?
If you buy at £135 k for a nice CS (and I think that is top dollar no matter what people are asking)then ? 20 - 25k over the next year as I can't see them maintaining a premium over list for much longer. But I have a history of selling cars just before they take off in value so best ignore me frown
Great car for your requirements though and still cheap motoring compared to many of the competition. Ongoing engine issues not too much of an issue in warranty but sad to hear. And there is worse to come in terms of numbers I fear...

5517

1,952 posts

244 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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sone said:
Thanks but no thanks, I'm over the old pudding stirrer gearboxes (-:
Bravo biggrin





My guess is engine 3 is different than engine 2 although Porsche say it is unchanged.
I'm running it in right now but it does feel different in a good way.



Mark A S

1,824 posts

187 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Are these engines really that fragile? if so, buying one out of warranty is going to be a bit precarious isn't it ????


cheers

nigt

18 posts

104 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Mark A S said:
Are these engines really that fragile? if so, buying one out of warranty is going to be a bit precarious isn't it ????


cheers
Yep I would say so, I wonder what Apollo thinks the residuals will be like on engine 5!

APOLO1

5,256 posts

193 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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nigt said:
Yep I would say so, I wonder what Apollo thinks the residuals will be like on engine 5!
what do I think, 5 or 55, still the 2nd best driving car I have ever owned driven.
Have a look form 40 secs in, says it all for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dss44VBDN8

seawise

2,144 posts

205 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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APOLO1 said:
what do I think, 5 or 55, still the 2nd best driving car I have ever owned driven.
Have a look form 40 secs in, says it all for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dss44VBDN8
Super, they cut the edit for when the engine lets go at the top of the col then....

Seriously though, mega car but so sad that they have this issue with the longevity of the donkey - i think i'd get a bit bored after the 3rd time i had to run an engine in.

GT4RS

4,395 posts

196 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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drmark said:
re depreciation, as you say, who knows?
If you buy at £135 k for a nice CS (and I think that is top dollar no matter what people are asking)then ? 20 - 25k over the next year as I can't see them maintaining a premium over list for much longer. But I have a history of selling cars just before they take off in value so best ignore me frown
Great car for your requirements though and still cheap motoring compared to many of the competition. Ongoing engine issues not too much of an issue in warranty but sad to hear. And there is worse to come in terms of numbers I fear...
This guys not a million miles away, I have been watching these for some time and most cars have been for sale for a very long time.

Some say they are losing as much as 3k a week at the moment. Very few cars have sold over the last few months.

Now may not be the best time to buy if you are worried about future values.

sone

Original Poster:

4,585 posts

237 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
sone said:
Thanks but no thanks, I'm over the old pudding stirrer gearboxes (-:
Are you not enjoying the Exige ?
Exige is a great little car but to be honest but tbh the reason I might change is the transmission, it's never been Lotus's strong point I was sort of hoping they'd sorted it since the last one I owned ten years ago!

jackal

11,248 posts

281 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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one at the ring last week ... poor bloke could only manage 4 laps on part throttle as the thing kept going into limp home mode ... when you factor in bespoke insurance, travel and 3 nights hotel costs, a complete waste of a very expensive trackday, i would have been livid personally

V8KSN

4,711 posts

183 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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jackal said:
one at the ring last week ... poor bloke could only manage 4 laps on part throttle as the thing kept going into limp home mode ... when you factor in bespoke insurance, travel and 3 nights hotel costs, a complete waste of a very expensive trackday, i would have been livid personally
That must be so frustrating frown
Do you know what the problem was?