997 C2S - any comments?
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Don't worry too much about the colour. I owned a prg 997.2 for 2 1/2 years, and had a lot of people walk up to me in car parks and petrol stations to say 'I've never seen one that colour before. It's realy nice'
It is a marmite colour, but I was in the love it camp, and when I traded it against my 991, it sold in less than a week.
No one has ever come to say anything about the colour of my get silver 991 in the 18 months I've had it.
It is a marmite colour, but I was in the love it camp, and when I traded it against my 991, it sold in less than a week.
No one has ever come to say anything about the colour of my get silver 991 in the 18 months I've had it.
ORD said:
It has PASM (although the spec didn't say so). It was perhaps slightly softer than the 987 but not much. I think it's quite pleasant for normal road driving. I think the complaints that people have are that it gets confused by trail braking and generally messes about with your own attempts to transfer weight and balance the car. Problem is that you would have to drive a PASM car quite hard to uncover this flaw, so I imagine you won't pick it up on a test drive.
Unless you intend to do track days in it, you would have to be driving insanely fast to upset this car in any way on the road - PASM or not! It's not a hard car to drive fast at all, in fact it's dangerously easy. From a technical point of view, weight transfer itself is not affected by the active damping, only the body movement (pitch and roll) in response to dynamic weight transfer is affected - which is not the same thing although often confused for it. 
ORD said:
Looks like this one will pass me by. A genuinely absurd part-exchange offer for my car (£1600 less than We Buy Any Car value) has put me off!
If your car is good, sell it to one of the respected Indy traders or for maximum return, but most hassle, sell privately!Have you responded to their part-ex offer? They might negotiate if they really want a sale.
But anyway if the interior was a bit rough I'd probably pass on it anyway. Most of the OPC ones I looked at were immaculate inside and out.
ORD said:
Going from the manual 997 to my PDK car, it felt like a hundred metres of guff had been placed between my right foot and the engine.
Now that's ONE HUNDRED metres of guff I DON'T wanna cop a whiff of! ;-)Put a depo down on the green monster, and give yourself a month to sell your car privately!
WIN - WIN
Update: massively improved offer for my car and I may well be in the 997 this weekend. I am not massively fussed about the interior scuffing - I actually quite like that it shows its age slightly; it is in-keeping with the slightly old-fashioned look of the interior more generally.
If it bothers me, I'll throw silly money at tarting it up. I am not really very price-sensitive when it comes to upkeep or improvement (but am strangely very reluctant to take a hit at purchase time).
If it bothers me, I'll throw silly money at tarting it up. I am not really very price-sensitive when it comes to upkeep or improvement (but am strangely very reluctant to take a hit at purchase time).
ORD said:
I am not massively fussed about the interior scuffing - I actually quite like that it shows its age slightly; it is in-keeping with the slightly old-fashioned look of the interior more generally.
That is funny, blinkers are fully on then! As it's OPC you are dealing with, I would point out the leather scuffs (they must be really obvious otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it before) and insist that they do something about it in the pre-sale prep. They won't want to lose the sale over it. uktrailmonster said:
That is funny, blinkers are fully on then! As it's OPC you are dealing with, I would point out the leather scuffs (they must be really obvious otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it before) and insist that they do something about it in the pre-sale prep. They won't want to lose the sale over it.
I don't trust OPCs with anything cosmetic. I even ban them from cleaning my car, as they employ 12 year-old drunks to do the cleaning and swirl the hell out of the paint.I would rather go direct to an expert for interior or paint renovation.
A happy camper on the way on home.
Photo out of the window 10 seconds ago. The colour is so f
king great in the metal. Now that I drive a manual 911, I'll mostly be posting two things:-
(1) PDK is for girls.
(2) The Cayman is a (wait for it) 'poor man's Porsche'.
So far, I love the engine, love the abundance of leather and think that I would be slightly faster in the Cayman on most roads. It feels far more willing to push into understeer than the Cayman, so I had better remember how to drive...
There are probably 2 answers to that question.
(1) It is more about how the car feels than actual on-limit performance. Hard to explain. In my experience, cars hint at how they'll behave if pushed even when only at 5/10s. And the 911s I have driven always seem a bit less planted at the front than the Caymans.
On the upside, they also seem to turn in more keenly.
(2) I expect you would have to be balls out to actually get it to understeer considerably on the road. Grip at both ends is absurd. In terms of outright grip, for road use, it's very similar to the Cayman, I think.
I may be talking crap. All perception, really.
I remember a test a few years back that showed that the 911 in fact beats the Cayman in a lot of technical handling challenges BUT all the test drivers felt happier and safer doing the tests in the Cayman. The 911 feels a bit less friendly.
(1) It is more about how the car feels than actual on-limit performance. Hard to explain. In my experience, cars hint at how they'll behave if pushed even when only at 5/10s. And the 911s I have driven always seem a bit less planted at the front than the Caymans.
On the upside, they also seem to turn in more keenly.
(2) I expect you would have to be balls out to actually get it to understeer considerably on the road. Grip at both ends is absurd. In terms of outright grip, for road use, it's very similar to the Cayman, I think.
I may be talking crap. All perception, really.
I remember a test a few years back that showed that the 911 in fact beats the Cayman in a lot of technical handling challenges BUT all the test drivers felt happier and safer doing the tests in the Cayman. The 911 feels a bit less friendly.
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