Is the bubble about to burst?

[breadvan]

Alpinestars said:

I'm still struggling to understand what the big benefit of out is going to be.

Agreed, as are most of the people I've spoken to who voted out.

[Sam All]

anonymous said:

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Have faith in yourself & your countrymen.

[RSVP911]

Alpinestars said:

Bite nose to spite face, look in the mirror, and express regret.

I'm still struggling to understand what the big benefit of out is going to be.

Let's see how it all pans out now.

This is what's totally thrown me as I couldn't work it out either - just seemed like risk for no reward - all very confusing .

[Alpinestars]

Sam All said:

& then review with the benefit of facts.

Why don't you enlighten us with what milk and honey we should expect?

[Sam All]

Alpinestars said:

Sam All said:

& then review with the benefit of facts.

Why don't you enlighten us with what milk and honey we should expect?

With your attitude, I assume you are shorting everything.

[Alpinestars]

Sam All said:

Alpinestars said:

Sam All said:

& then review with the benefit of facts.

Why don't you enlighten us with what milk and honey we should expect?

With your attitude, I assume you are shorting everything.

So no response to the original question?

You must have had reasons to vote out? What do you think it achieves?

[Sam All]

Alpinestars said:

Sam All said:

Alpinestars said:

Sam All said:

& then review with the benefit of facts.

Why don't you enlighten us with what milk and honey we should expect?

With your attitude, I assume you are shorting everything.

So no response to the original question.

You seem certain of doom, I am not.

[Alpinestars]

Sam All said:

You seem certain of doom, I am not.

I doubt you voted on a whim . But it's your prerogative not to disclose the reasons, financial or otherwise.

It would have been interesting to see what you think the benefits of being out are.

[ras62]

cmoose...tell southern Europe about how the EU is all for social justice. Please.
ORD. Your racist comments make you look a fool. Have some (self) respect.

[Patrick Bateman]

To think I popped in here to escape the referendum chat...

[ooid]

8-9 years ago I remember seeing a few Z08 with low miles in London around 40-50k price. I just heard recently, they are going around 150-200k on auctions? 911 air cooled versions were way below 20k, I even remember seeing some very low risk CAT C/D 911's around 10k back in 2006-07, it would be impossible to find those in todays prices?

I can not see any better alternative being produced or designed currently. Even Tesla seems to be more interested in sticking an Ipad on their ford-focus looking affordable cars, rather than engineering a great driving car!

There is really not much out there, ask "Neo" if you do not agree with me

[Budflicker]

anonymous said:

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If my mask has slipped then you've taken yours off and thrown it out of the window, along with your dummy and toys.


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[bryn_p]

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It did though, look at the value of Sterling and the stock markets

[9e 28]

RSVP911 said:

9e 28 said:

Thats about 10-20 years away so you're fine for short to medium term IMO. This should help you for now. Nothing changes for 2-3 years in any event.

This is where I strongly disagree , everything changes , now ! Confidence and its influence on behaviour is everything - from the consumer putting a treat in their shopping basket , to buying a house , through to business's outlook on investment . The wheels slow down and financial decline and all it brings is inevitable. I am no EU fan boy , quite the opposite , but I do believe in stability - I really hope that I'm wrong as this isn't a game. I think there are some brilliant points made on both side of this debate , but in truth no one knows where this will end up - the ramifications relating to the whole political system and the general stability both financial and of the world we live in could be massive ? Who knows , all very scary IMHO.

Edited by RSVP911 on Sunday 26th June 12:49

Hmmm yes although outlook depends on where you are in life. The people who have worked all their lives diligently and conscientiously not taking on large amounts of credit and who have decent savings have been punished by successive governments with low interest rates for as long as I can remember in order to stimulate the economy. Remember the very same economy that was put to the sword by bulge bracket banks taking unnecessary risks.

I'm in my mid 40s and welcome interest rate rises. 5-6% rate was the norm when I was making my way up the ladder and I'd like to see this happen again. All this QE and Bank of England/Govt issuing free money, low interest rates is just a short term fix where we all stumble from one disaster to another. It has to stop IMO. I hope I'm right but we'll only know in 20-30 years. At the very least Parliament is again sovereign and we have our judiciary back.

[ORD]

What in the name of crap are you on about now, guys?! The EU to blame for house prices? The EU to blame for low interest rates? Interest rates are low because the economy has been on the edge of collapse and has needed the stimulus. Giving it a kick in the bits isn't going to help that.

We have basically guaranteed a recession combined with higher interest rates. Fab.'

[Alpinestars]

ORD said:

What in the name of crap are you on about now, guys?! The EU to blame for house prices? The EU to blame for low interest rates? Interest rates are low because the economy has been on the edge of collapse and has needed the stimulus. Giving it a kick in the bits isn't going to help that.

We have basically guaranteed a recession combined with higher interest rates. Fab.'

And lower corporate taxes, so the people who voted in (broadly Londoners), having to bail the outers, out.

Marvellous.

[Sam All]

bryn_p said:

It did though, look at the value of Sterling and the stock markets

You might want to look at what markets have done over the past 5/10/20 years

[Mario149]

anonymous said:

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[bryn_p]

Sam All said:

You might want to look at what markets have done over the past 5/10/20 years

No I'm ok thanks, pretty sure there wasn't an EU referendum in the past 5/10/20 years

[ras62]

I was asked a question last night I though was rather a good way of looking at the issue. Imagine that today we were not yet a member of the EU. In a referendum would you vote to join or not?