Is the bubble about to burst?

Is the bubble about to burst?

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ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Quite.

When the markets & sterling do what they did today, it's pretty silly to worry about cars. They're all worth fk all in the grand scheme of things.

Nice one, oldies.

Back on topic, I would be gutted to have held on to any unnecessary investments right now. It is a buyer's market and will be for at least a year or two. Mad to keep money in a car when FTSE and sterling are going to hit rock bottom. When that happens, buying in and betting on recovery is the only sane option. Cars won't see anything like those gains.

NJH

3,021 posts

209 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Agreed 100%. I count myself part of the very small part of the electorate that never agreed with the EU project for the reasons eloquently expressed by Tony Benn over many years. The youngsters accusing everyone of racism would do well to educate themselves about the past, and people like Benn and others from all over the political spectrum, that actually stood for something other than grubby hands on power. Its old footage but ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWnpbEMMsNw

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Vandalism as much as anything. A desire to smash things up out of frustration with not being more successful.

MDL111

6,940 posts

177 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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ORD said:
Quite.

When the markets & sterling do what they did today, it's pretty silly to worry about cars. They're all worth fk all in the grand scheme of things.

Nice one, oldies.

Back on topic, I would be gutted to have held on to any unnecessary investments right now. It is a buyer's market and will be for at least a year or two. Mad to keep money in a car when FTSE and sterling are going to hit rock bottom. When that happens, buying in and betting on recovery is the only sane option. Cars won't see anything like those gains.
Yeah probably the rational view ..... But cars are fun and life is short

Steve Rance

5,446 posts

231 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Absolutely old Boy. Too much cosseting, polishing and asset investing going on.

Let's all invest in a bit of fun instead and drive the Charlie's off of our Porkers.


NJH

3,021 posts

209 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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anonymous said:
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First part is sad but true, Frank Field predicted as such back in April when Corbyn begrudgingly decided to back Remain.

Second part never in a million years. Its that little thing called principles, people who have them don't throw them away in order to make a gain and they certainly don't do the same when there is the risk of a financial loss. The 1945 government for example creating the NHS at a time when the country was broke and practically destroyed. We live in strange times when short term'finance' trumps everything and so few politicians have principles we forget as a people what the word even means.

Car Mad Dave

261 posts

176 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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I fully endorse Steve Rance's view "Let's all invest in a bit of fun instead and drive the Charlie's off of our Porkers" but...

...will we be let in to Germany to drive on the autobahns and Italy to have fun on the twisties!!

sparta6

3,698 posts

100 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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ras62 said:
Young voters were voting for their future eh. Do these youngsters understand this EU presides over youth unemployment running at over 50% in many EU countries? Some future.
As the saying goes, you can't put an old head on young shoulders.
^^this^^

For those interested in stats, the EU isn't doing a great job
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/...

That's quite enough Brexit for one day, off to Goodwood now smile


ooid

4,088 posts

100 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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This is a picture where I park every week. Almost 9 out of 10 cars are German brand in my daily route.(m11). I'm not really sure about the exact numbers in the country overall but it would be interesting see what conditions they would offer to U.K. in terms of imports. New deals? maybe new production facilities? the only fact I know, we love german cars biggrin




MDL111

6,940 posts

177 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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ooid said:
This is a picture where I park every week. Almost 9 out of 10 cars are German brand in my daily route.(m11). I'm not really sure about the exact numbers in the country overall but it would be interesting see what conditions they would offer to U.K. in terms of imports. New deals? maybe new production facilities? the only fact I know, we love german cars biggrin



That boxster looks tiny and quite good - age has been kind to it

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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anonymous said:
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To continue the analogy. Expecting those that didn't cause the vandalism to pay for it.

NJH

3,021 posts

209 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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That boxster looks tiny, really tiny. Just shows how much cars have grown.

drmark

4,840 posts

186 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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I would not believe all the stats you see - most of them are not independent and always politically scewed to suit a particular agenda.

GB has been ones the worlds top 5 economies for 250 years before the EEC was even thought about. It will be for the next 250 years out of the EEC IMO. Europe's was in chaos and economic melt down well before GB chose to leave - far too much of a mess to try and sort out and be part of...
Well it is now out of the top 5. No 6 today - France having over taken us yesterday.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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anonymous said:
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Unfortunately I think they will realise.

There's bound to be an impact on all of us, and I'm not sure what problem they thought they were solving that will now be solved.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Not a chance. When poor people get poorer, they will blame "the rich"; almost nobody every blames himself.

I have already had very left-leaning friends blame "the elite" for the Leave vote, notwithstanding what the statistics show about voting trends by education and profession (i.e. that the vast majority of high earners voted Remain).

I hope the car bubble bursts, to be honest. I dont think the current prices make any sense, and it would be good to see the cars driven for a change.

Wudee

269 posts

144 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Alpinestars said:
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Unfortunately I think they will realise.

There's bound to be an impact on all of us, and I'm not sure what problem they thought they were solving that will now be solved.
So the political ambitions of two individuals (Cameron vs Jonson) cost the world a whopping USD 2trn in stock market losses. Insane and without any consequences.

ChrisW.

6,299 posts

255 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Alpinestars said:
To continue the analogy. Expecting those that didn't cause the vandalism to pay for it.
Did you hear the spokeswoman for the TUC asking for precisely this even before Cameron had announced his pending resignation ??

Her members voted out, now big government should protect them form their own decision ...

And Corbyn smiles on ... which is strange considering that he "lost" ??

Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Wudee said:
Alpinestars said:
anonymous said:
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Unfortunately I think they will realise.

There's bound to be an impact on all of us, and I'm not sure what problem they thought they were solving that will now be solved.
So the political ambitions of two individuals (Cameron vs Jonson) cost the world a whopping USD 2trn in stock market losses. Insane and without any consequences.
Politicians and central bankers facilitate that quantum of profit on a regular basis -regardless of underlying profitability. And stock market prices were in far worse state in January. Paper losses.

The U.K. will pay a price in the short term - it's freedom will be long term and a majority of the British people have decided that


Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Sam All said:
Politicians and central bankers facilitate that quantum of profit on a regular basis -regardless of underlying profitability. And stock market prices were in far worse state in January. Paper losses.

The U.K. will pay a price in the short term - it's freedom will be long term and a majority of the British people have decided that
Good old paper losses. What about for people who depend on those paper profits and losses for their pension? Those that need to access their investments? Those that invest in the UK based on a stable environment/markets?

Paper losses - only for those that are not affected.

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Alpinestars said:
Good old paper losses. What about for people who depend on those paper profits and losses for their pension? Those that need to access their investments? Those that invest in the UK based on a stable environment/markets?

Paper losses - only for those that are not affected.
And the ageing Little Britain Brexiteers largely responsible for this catastrophe and soon approaching retirement will find out soon enough they will be seriously affected on drawing their hugely reduced pensions. But there you go.