997 Turbo Gen 2, do I remap or extend warranty?

[Dogbash]

Hi everyone, had my 997 Turbo Gen2 PDK for a few months now and absolutely love it. I bought the car without a Porsche warranty and having owned it for more than 3 months now I can have the inspection done by Porsche and have a warranty for approx. £2-2.5K (need a genuine Porsche battery fitted).

I've had no problems with the car so far and the only thing I think the car lacks is the exhaust noise. Should I fit an aftermarket exhaust, if so then I'll more than likely get the modifying bug and want a remap. What sort of power can be achieved? Will this screw the gearbox/engine up?

If anyone has any previous experience with this would be good to hear opinions.

Thanks,
Andrew

[berty37]

Hi mate
Great car that for starters. i had a gen1 997 turbo that was brilliant so can only imagine how addictive the gen2 PDK is. The old gen1 could handle another 100bhp ish I think without any real need for new componenets but then the sky is the limit. There is a chap on here called Imran (IMIA) that has his turbo I believe up to around 750bhp - with GT2 RS intercoolers, turbos etc.
The person really to speak to is Ken Napier at 9e. His knowledge on tuning is pretty much second to none. I think the PDK box in the gen2 turbo is fairly robust so should be easy to remap.
One word of caution though. If you do go down that route, the ECU/DME will record the remaps and from what I have been told by Ken etc this cannot be wiped even after returning the car to factory settings - which if resale is something you have considered wont be attractive to some people and pretty certain will not be allowed by Porsche to have a warranty stuck on it in the future.

[Bikeracer1098]

berty37 said:

Hi mate
Great car that for starters. i had a gen1 997 turbo that was brilliant so can only imagine how addictive the gen2 PDK is. The old gen1 could handle another 100bhp ish I think without any real need for new componenets but then the sky is the limit. There is a chap on here called Imran (IMIA) that has his turbo I believe up to around 750bhp - with GT2 RS intercoolers, turbos etc.
The person really to speak to is Ken Napier at 9e. His knowledge on tuning is pretty much second to none. I think the PDK box in the gen2 turbo is fairly robust so should be easy to remap.
One word of caution though. If you do go down that route, the ECU/DME will record the remaps and from what I have been told by Ken etc this cannot be wiped even after returning the car to factory settings - which if resale is something you have considered wont be attractive to some people and pretty certain will not be allowed by Porsche to have a warranty stuck on it in the future.

Good advice and yes all the info regarding the ECU is correct.

[Bikeracer1098]

Dogbash said:

Hi everyone, had my 997 Turbo Gen2 PDK for a few months now and absolutely love it. I bought the car without a Porsche warranty and having owned it for more than 3 months now I can have the inspection done by Porsche and have a warranty for approx. £2-2.5K (need a genuine Porsche battery fitted).

I've had no problems with the car so far and the only thing I think the car lacks is the exhaust noise. Should I fit an aftermarket exhaust, if so then I'll more than likely get the modifying bug and want a remap. What sort of power can be achieved? Will this screw the gearbox/engine up?

If anyone has any previous experience with this would be good to hear opinions.

Thanks,
Andrew

Andrew

I've also got a gen 2 997 turbo, currently have Porsche warranty until Nov 15.
Also in a bit of a dilemma whether to renew the warranty. 12 months warranty + 111 inspection should set up back around £1350.
Yes have a chat with Ken from 9E regarding exhaust, cats and remap. Also speak to DMS regarding exhaust, cats and remap.
The limitation with running the gen 2 997 turbo is the PDK gearbox which is only good for up to 650bhp. Your asking for problems if you exceed that figure.

Hope that helps

[Koln-RS]

Do you intend to keep it long term? If so, spend the money as you wish.

But, an original 997.2 Turbo with Porsche Warranty will always be easier to sell than a highly modified example, where the money spent could even devalue it.

[IMI A]

you can't really highly modify a gen 2. All i know is that a gen 2 with zorst and map is stupidly quick. blow the doors off mine

[Nineexcellence]

IMI A said:

you can't really highly modify a gen 2. All i know is that a gen 2 with zorst and map is stupidly quick. blow the doors off mine

Gen 2 pdk is very easy to extract more power from with exhaust tuning and a few other mods.

The limit is not the PDK - that comes after the DFI pump which runs outs - we have found that already.

We now have a 3071 kit for the gen 2 pdk - it runs safetly below the limit of the DFI pump. Very close to 700 hp.

You cannot remove the trace of a map even if you completely write the entire ECU - in theory on limited inspection you would not see but if you know where to look, it can be found.

Hope t helps

Ken

[Bikeracer1098]

Nineexcellence said:

Gen 2 pdk is very easy to extract more power from with exhaust tuning and a few other mods.

The limit is not the PDK - that comes after the DFI pump which runs outs - we have found that already.

We now have a 3071 kit for the gen 2 pdk - it runs safetly below the limit of the DFI pump. Very close to 700 hp.

You cannot remove the trace of a map even if you completely write the entire ECU - in theory on limited inspection you would not see but if you know where to look, it can be found.

Hope t helps

Ken

Hi Ken

Would you be able to PM me details and cost of this kit/upgrade

Thanks

[Dogbash]

Look as though I'll probably extend the warranty then as its my daily driver and I was hoping to upgrade it to a 991 Turbo S in a couple of years time and if you can't remove trace of the map then it will almost certainly cause problems come trade in/sale.

Andrew

[IMI A]

Dogbash said:

Look as though I'll probably extend the warranty then as its my daily driver and I was hoping to upgrade it to a 991 Turbo S in a couple of years time and if you can't remove trace of the map then it will almost certainly cause problems come trade in/sale.

Andrew

Interesting. Apart from Bentley standard interior (which squeeks and rattles) I'm not convinced from a driving perspective a 991 Turbo S beats a re mapped Gen 2 997 turbo.

They are growing on me looks wise though

[PorscheGT4]

IMI A said:

Interesting. Apart from Bentley standard interior (which squeeks and rattles) I'm not convinced from a driving perspective a 991 Turbo S beats a re mapped Gen 2 997 turbo.

They are growing on me looks wise though

every review says other wise stating the 991 Turbo is the 1st turbo which is not a dull drive :-P

[IMI A]

PorscheGT4 said:

IMI A said:

Interesting. Apart from Bentley standard interior (which squeeks and rattles) I'm not convinced from a driving perspective a 991 Turbo S beats a re mapped Gen 2 997 turbo.

They are growing on me looks wise though

every review says other wise stating the 991 Turbo is the 1st turbo which is not a dull drive :-P

Neither car is particularly exciting tbh

[benny 61]

IMI A said:

you can't really highly modify a gen 2. All i know is that a gen 2 with zorst and map is stupidly quick. blow the doors off mine

Your not serious are you? I thought with your mods the gen 1 would be quicker.

[IMI A]

benny 61 said:

IMI A said:

you can't really highly modify a gen 2. All i know is that a gen 2 with zorst and map is stupidly quick. blow the doors off mine

Your not serious are you? I thought with your mods the gen 1 would be quicker.

The PDK gives the gen 2 a real advantage.

My gen 1 turbo probably only running 640 PS i.e. 631 bhp maybe 650bhp with race fuel. A gen 2 with map and zorst is 600bhp and rapid. Ken ill know which is quicker but 9 drags out of 10 I'd say the PDK will leave my manual gen 1 for dead. Never run against one mind.

[Nineexcellence]

IMI A said:

benny 61 said:

IMI A said:

you can't really highly modify a gen 2. All i know is that a gen 2 with zorst and map is stupidly quick. blow the doors off mine

Your not serious are you? I thought with your mods the gen 1 would be quicker.

The PDK gives the gen 2 a real advantage.

My gen 1 turbo probably only running 640 PS i.e. 631 bhp maybe 650bhp with race fuel. A gen 2 with map and zorst is 600bhp and rapid. Ken ill know which is quicker but 9 drags out of 10 I'd say the PDK will leave my manual gen 1 for dead. Never run against one mind.

Probably just your gear shifting Imran

[IMI A]

Nineexcellence said:

IMI A said:

benny 61 said:

IMI A said:

you can't really highly modify a gen 2. All i know is that a gen 2 with zorst and map is stupidly quick. blow the doors off mine

Your not serious are you? I thought with your mods the gen 1 would be quicker.

The PDK gives the gen 2 a real advantage.

My gen 1 turbo probably only running 640 PS i.e. 631 bhp maybe 650bhp with race fuel. A gen 2 with map and zorst is 600bhp and rapid. Ken ill know which is quicker but 9 drags out of 10 I'd say the PDK will leave my manual gen 1 for dead. Never run against one mind.

Probably just your gear shifting Imran

Yep! Out of interest what is 0-300kph for a mapped gen 2 with zorst?