Driving EGTE's 996.2 Carrera 2

[watercooled]

I enjoyed reading this. I like the sills of the aerokit, though the spoiler does not do it for me.

For those of you who are looking to tighten up the suspension a bit without going all the way and fit a complete new set of dampers etc. (provided all components are in good order) I recommend fitting H&R roll bars:

http://www.h-r.com/de/stabilisatoren.html

Apart from the roll bars, the suspension is standard, Im running 17'' wheels, for what it's worth... This, and the short shifter are the two alteration I would not like to miss.


Best
Christian

[monthefish]

braddo said:

monthefish said:

9e 28 said:

Great write. Most enjoyable. I agree the aerokit completely ruins the silhouette on the mk 2 996 and I'd be tempted to return the car to standard. Funnily enough I like the mk1 aerokit. Go figure?

That's actually the mk1 and mk2 Aerokit Carrera (It can be fitted to both)

The Aerokit that is specific to the mk1 is the Aerokit Cup (sometimes known as the GT3 kit).

And just to confuse maters further, there is also an Aerokit Cup for the mk2 Carrera that mimics the 996.2 GT2 (with the ironing board wing), but I've only ever seen it on two mk2 Carrera's.

Edited by monthefish on Thursday 1st October 19:42

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Why thank you.

[joneslight]

Hi cmoose
I have an 02 C4 with factory fitted M030 and sports exhaust if you want to give it a whirl and a listen!

[griffter]

joneslight said:

Hi cmoose
I have an 02 C4 with factory fitted M030 and sports exhaust if you want to give it a whirl and a listen!

You could back to back it with my 996.1 C4 of same spec. Would be an interesting comparison.

[BrotherMouzone]

griffter said:

joneslight said:

Hi cmoose
I have an 02 C4 with factory fitted M030 and sports exhaust if you want to give it a whirl and a listen!

You could back to back it with my 996.1 C4 of same spec. Would be an interesting comparison.

Back to back to back with my 2001 996.1 C2 with M030?

[griffter]

BrotherMouzone said:

Back to back to back with my 2001 996.1 C2 with M030?

Now that would be very interesting! My experience (and my opinion) is that the C4 feels very similar to and loses nothing in practice to the C2. It would be interesting to see what an impartial and experienced driver made of the differences.

[rival38]

Here is mine (I hope - first effort at posting an image)

Just the 3.4 from 2001. 80K on the car / 40 on the motor. I have had it a month or so and had to spend a bit immediately on tyres / brakes / engine mounts. Also had a new water pump and low temp thermostat - just in case.

I started out thinking about a 968 Box. But realising they had the same potentialy costly flaws in the engine I decided that if I had to shell out in the event of a failure I would resent it less if the car was a 911. Then I wanted a pre 2000 car to get the possibly `better` dual row IMS bearing, cable throttle and cylinder/ piston coatings. But I could not find one I liked enough. This one was so close to what I wanted I forgave it being born in 2001 and bought it.

I absolutely love it. It has a full cargraphic exhaust which really comes on song above 4500rpm with a lovely howl. Everthing feels tight and direct, the brakes are now mighty and the steering is alive. It feels good even at 40mph on a boring road. It`s my first rear engined car so I am feeling my way gently, but already the rewards are starting to show themselves.....and it has now had a wash and polish.

[BrotherMouzone]

griffter said:

BrotherMouzone said:

Back to back to back with my 2001 996.1 C2 with M030?

Now that would be very interesting! My experience (and my opinion) is that the C4 feels very similar to and loses nothing in practice to the C2. It would be interesting to see what an impartial and experienced driver made of the differences.

What I really would like is to try an early 'throttle cable' car.

I've only driven about 250 miles since I bought mine (drive-by-wire) but I don't feel the throttle control at low speed and at cruising is as precise as my Integra DC2. Could well just be in my mind; need to do more miles to make a better assessment.

[Mr Scruff]

BrotherMouzone said:

griffter said:

BrotherMouzone said:

Back to back to back with my 2001 996.1 C2 with M030?

Now that would be very interesting! My experience (and my opinion) is that the C4 feels very similar to and loses nothing in practice to the C2. It would be interesting to see what an impartial and experienced driver made of the differences.

What I really would like is to try an early 'throttle cable' car.

I've only driven about 250 miles since I bought mine (drive-by-wire) but I don't feel the throttle control at low speed and at cruising is as precise as my Integra DC2. Could well just be in my mind; need to do more miles to make a better assessment.

Mine's a 1999 3.4 C4, so throttle cable. Also be interested to know the difference?

Been pleased with mine but for two things - firstly I think the M030 suspension is a little too hard for the knackered roads we have in the south east, though fixing as many rattles as I can has improved it/made it a little less noticeable

Second - I've spent too much on it. Not that I had to, some things I've spent out on I could have not done or postponed but I think the nature of the car encourages you (or me, at least) to try and bring it back to as high a standard as possible. Am lucky to have a good specialist close by too.

I've owned mine just over 12 months now and really do think they're a bargain, though am currently looking at getting a second car to run alongside it....

[griffter]

Mr Scruff said:

Mine's a 1999 3.4 C4, so throttle cable. Also be interested to know the difference?

Been pleased with mine but for two things - firstly I think the M030 suspension is a little too hard for the knackered roads we have in the south east, though fixing as many rattles as I can has improved it/made it a little less noticeable

Second - I've spent too much on it. Not that I had to, some things I've spent out on I could have not done or postponed but I think the nature of the car encourages you (or me, at least) to try and bring it back to as high a standard as possible. Am lucky to have a good specialist close by too.

I've owned mine just over 12 months now and really do think they're a bargain, though am currently looking at getting a second car to run alongside it....

I'm pretty sure all c4s are electronic throttle (but happy to be corrected). Have you physically checked?

On a slightly different note I cleaned the throttle position sensor connection and the maf sensor and could kid myself the throttle is now sharper and more direct.

[Mr Scruff]

griffter said:

I'm pretty sure all c4s are electronic throttle (but happy to be corrected). Have you physically checked?

On a slightly different note I cleaned the throttle position sensor connection and the maf sensor and could kid myself the throttle is now sharper and more direct.

Learn something new every day, I think you're right... Was only the 1999 C2 that wasn't eGas it seems. I stand corrected.... Not physically checked, that's for sure, I'm dangerous with a PC and downright untrustworthy with a spanner!

[EGTE]

Thanks J,
I do love these dampers and for about £20K all-in, the whole package is the most enjoyable car I've ever owned (and there have been many).

Look forward to the next blat.
Cheers.

[hondansx]

braddo said:

monthefish said:

9e 28 said:

Great write. Most enjoyable. I agree the aerokit completely ruins the silhouette on the mk 2 996 and I'd be tempted to return the car to standard. Funnily enough I like the mk1 aerokit. Go figure?

That's actually the mk1 and mk2 Aerokit Carrera (It can be fitted to both)

The Aerokit that is specific to the mk1 is the Aerokit Cup (sometimes known as the GT3 kit).

And just to confuse maters further, there is also an Aerokit Cup for the mk2 Carrera that mimics the 996.2 GT2 (with the ironing board wing), but I've only ever seen it on two mk2 Carrera's.

Edited by monthefish on Thursday 1st October 19:42

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Not sure if that's true though. The 996.2's Aerokit (known as Aerokit II) was not an exact copy of the GT3 bodykit as with the 996.1, but it certainly is far more GT3 than GT2.

http://www.carnewal.com/products/P96/p96115/Aeroki...
http://www.carnewal.com/products/P96/p96076/Aeroki...
http://www.carnewal.com/products/P96/p96114/Aeroki...

[fergus]

anonymous said:

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That will be very high quality damping then. You get the same feeling when riding a superbike (as in BSB) with £30k forks. They feel very plush, but offer a lot of *control*. Cheaper attempts at alternatives don't cut the mustard here. I'm guessing the Ohlins equivalent of the Exe-TC dampers are circa £10k minimum (and won't be what the usual retailers offer, Parr, etc but will be full race dampers?)

[EGTE]

Bang-on, fergus; they're incredibly comfortable, yet give tremendous control.

I bought these second-hand and the Exe-tc guys were very helpful with re-configuring them from how they came off the GT3, in order to fit my C2. They updated the suspension this year and dropped the prices quite considerably, thanks to more in-house construction.

They're far from the top-end stuff they build for the likes of Mr.Loeb, etc. (These must be utterly amazing).

They are the 3-ways here:
http://www.exe-tc.co.uk/porsche

Compared to the Ohlins you refer to, they're a bargain!

Also, the Exe-tc guys could not be more helpful or communicative with setting up your car how you want it. Plus of course they are an entirely British company.

Edited by EGTE on Thursday 10th November 11:04

[SFO]

EGTE said:

for about £20K all-in

OMG!!!!

[braddo]

SFO said:

EGTE said:

for about £20K all-in

OMG!!!!

I think that includes the car!

Very interesting to read and well done to EGTE for investing in some high end stuff for his 996.

[EGTE]

Yes that includes the car :-)

[IknowJoseph]

EGTE said:

Yes that includes the car :-)

Have you made any other changes to the suspension, or is otherwise stock? Should I find myself with some increased earning power, EXE-TC shocks are high on the list, albeit maybe the cheaper 1-way versions.

Edited by IknowJoseph on Thursday 10th November 16:01

[m444ttb]

Not jealous... much! Perhaps one day if I put off having children until im in my 40s lol