Evo car of the year 2015 is...... SPOILER!
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And the GT4 still has PASM. Try driving oe with a decent passive set up and you may be half way back to the feel of an aircooled car or original GT3.
Porsche havent re-invented the wheel with this car, they are merely opening a window behind which there may one day be some absolutely fantastic driver's cars built. These cars could still embrace progess and remain analogue. passive Damping, tyre, braking and mechanical diff technology has moved a long way in the past 10 years. Now there's a thought
Porsche havent re-invented the wheel with this car, they are merely opening a window behind which there may one day be some absolutely fantastic driver's cars built. These cars could still embrace progess and remain analogue. passive Damping, tyre, braking and mechanical diff technology has moved a long way in the past 10 years. Now there's a thought
Steve Rance said:
And the GT4 still has PASM. Try driving oe with a decent passive set up and you may be half way back to the feel of an aircooled car or original GT3.
Porsche havent re-invented the wheel with this car, they are merely opening a window behind which there may one day be some absolutely fantastic driver's cars built. These cars could still embrace progess and remain analogue. passive Damping, tyre, braking and mechanical diff technology has moved a long way in the past 10 years. Now there's a thought
Not a chance, I am afraid. The direction is digital, turbo, Audi sPorsche havent re-invented the wheel with this car, they are merely opening a window behind which there may one day be some absolutely fantastic driver's cars built. These cars could still embrace progess and remain analogue. passive Damping, tyre, braking and mechanical diff technology has moved a long way in the past 10 years. Now there's a thought
te.Newsflash!
After the 991.2 (which has been brought out as a joke), the next 911 will weight 1350kg and will feature three normally aspirated flat sixes as follows:
992 - 3.4 litres and 360bhp
992 S - 3.6 litres and 380bhp
992 GTS - 3.8 litres and 400bhp.
All well above 100bhp/litre. Rev limits of 8000 all round.
After the 991.2 (which has been brought out as a joke), the next 911 will weight 1350kg and will feature three normally aspirated flat sixes as follows:
992 - 3.4 litres and 360bhp
992 S - 3.6 litres and 380bhp
992 GTS - 3.8 litres and 400bhp.
All well above 100bhp/litre. Rev limits of 8000 all round.
Steve Rance said:
And the GT4 still has PASM. Try driving oe with a decent passive set up and you may be half way back to the feel of an aircooled car or original GT3.
Porsche havent re-invented the wheel with this car, they are merely opening a window behind which there may one day be some absolutely fantastic driver's cars built. These cars could still embrace progess and remain analogue. passive Damping, tyre, braking and mechanical diff technology has moved a long way in the past 10 years. Now there's a thought
It also has the torque vectoring rear braking which as far as I have ever seen cannot be turned off but so far no one really seems to have commented on it's intrusiveness or otherwise and I do wonder how much that changes the handling dynamics of the car compared to one without.Porsche havent re-invented the wheel with this car, they are merely opening a window behind which there may one day be some absolutely fantastic driver's cars built. These cars could still embrace progess and remain analogue. passive Damping, tyre, braking and mechanical diff technology has moved a long way in the past 10 years. Now there's a thought
Isaldiri, I did read that turning everything off turns off torque vectoring.
It was suggested s a way of protecting the rear PCCB discs ... but I was also told that the PSM and other systems learn the driving style and if tidy become less intrusive.
Certainly at Oulton Park in the Cayman R my PSM light rarely came on, whilst another much slower driver of a CR saw it all the time. Either our PSM's were different, or I am in fact slower, or it is true ??
Either way, I have so far not turned off PSM and don't believe that I have held people up in faster cars ...
It was suggested s a way of protecting the rear PCCB discs ... but I was also told that the PSM and other systems learn the driving style and if tidy become less intrusive.
Certainly at Oulton Park in the Cayman R my PSM light rarely came on, whilst another much slower driver of a CR saw it all the time. Either our PSM's were different, or I am in fact slower, or it is true ??
Either way, I have so far not turned off PSM and don't believe that I have held people up in faster cars ...
ChrisW. said:
Isaldiri, I did read that turning everything off turns off torque vectoring.
It was suggested s a way of protecting the rear PCCB discs ... but I was also told that the PSM and other systems learn the driving style and if tidy become less intrusive.
Certainly at Oulton Park in the Cayman R my PSM light rarely came on, whilst another much slower driver of a CR saw it all the time. Either our PSM's were different, or I am in fact slower, or it is true ??
Either way, I have so far not turned off PSM and don't believe that I have held people up in faster cars ...
You're a pretty tidy driver for sure It was suggested s a way of protecting the rear PCCB discs ... but I was also told that the PSM and other systems learn the driving style and if tidy become less intrusive.
Certainly at Oulton Park in the Cayman R my PSM light rarely came on, whilst another much slower driver of a CR saw it all the time. Either our PSM's were different, or I am in fact slower, or it is true ??
Either way, I have so far not turned off PSM and don't believe that I have held people up in faster cars ...
that naturally does means the electronic systems are called upon to interfere a lot less so not a surprise you didn't see much of it compared to a slower car that might have been overdriving much more. Interesting though that you reckon systems off means torque vectoring off as I was looking quite hard at the launch literature whether that would be the case.
siheb said:
.....the GT4
Beat the GT3RS, 675LT & 488GTB amongst others.
A turnup for the books?
In a way, a big incidental thumbs up for the V6 Exige then which is far more connected and feelsome than the GT4. That's where my money would go for another roadtrip/trackday car. Probably the cup version too.Beat the GT3RS, 675LT & 488GTB amongst others.
A turnup for the books?
The only folk I know who wax lyrical about the modern supercars are bods who can't really drive too well. Good for posing of course but frustrating and pointless if your idea of enjoyment is being at the limit and wringing a car out. In fact the world of high performance cars has generally become quite a vulgar place if you ask me, the naffness factor is higher than ever before. I saw a bloke go by the brompton road the other day in a bright green aventador and he just looked like a bit of a pillock IMO.
AndrewD said:
I once saw a guy in a bright green caternail bin it at raidillon. Maybe he couldn't drive too well. Don't know, don't generalise to make myself feel better, KWIMMF? 
Haha pretty punchy but funny . Have to say V6 exige very tempting at half the Cost of a GT4 especially if you go 2yrs old. Some suggestions on Lotus forum that all is not well again financially and parts are taking a while to come by.
Real Shame that
isaldiri said:
It also has the torque vectoring rear braking which as far as I have ever seen cannot be turned off but so far no one really seems to have commented on it's intrusiveness or otherwise and I do wonder how much that changes the handling dynamics of the car compared to one without.
Oh my, don't start me on the rear braking thing. A major gripe with my 997 GT3. The diff is made of chocolate and is basically written off after you've reversed it a few times in the garage. From then on, enter the back up electronic system via the rear brakes.... I HATE IT!! Thankfully there are some decent diff replacement kits out there. JZM do a particularly good one.
isaldiri said:
ChrisW. said:
Isaldiri, I did read that turning everything off turns off torque vectoring.
It was suggested s a way of protecting the rear PCCB discs ... but I was also told that the PSM and other systems learn the driving style and if tidy become less intrusive.
Certainly at Oulton Park in the Cayman R my PSM light rarely came on, whilst another much slower driver of a CR saw it all the time. Either our PSM's were different, or I am in fact slower, or it is true ??
Either way, I have so far not turned off PSM and don't believe that I have held people up in faster cars ...
You're a pretty tidy driver for sure It was suggested s a way of protecting the rear PCCB discs ... but I was also told that the PSM and other systems learn the driving style and if tidy become less intrusive.
Certainly at Oulton Park in the Cayman R my PSM light rarely came on, whilst another much slower driver of a CR saw it all the time. Either our PSM's were different, or I am in fact slower, or it is true ??
Either way, I have so far not turned off PSM and don't believe that I have held people up in faster cars ...
that naturally does means the electronic systems are called upon to interfere a lot less so not a surprise you didn't see much of it compared to a slower car that might have been overdriving much more. Interesting though that you reckon systems off means torque vectoring off as I was looking quite hard at the launch literature whether that would be the case.
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