Evo car of the year 2015 is...... SPOILER!

[isaldiri]

Steve Rance said:

Oh my, don't start me on the rear braking thing. A major gripe with my 997 GT3. The diff is made of chocolate and is basically written off after you've reversed it a few times in the garage. From then on, enter the back up electronic system via the rear brakes.... I HATE IT!!

Thankfully there are some decent diff replacement kits out there. JZM do a particularly good one.

out of interest, what do you find about the rear braking that the car behaves diffferently and worse than with a (working) diff? Is there such a change in the dynamic behaviour of the car with one vs the other or is it more that with the rear braking the system becomes active rather than passive as the car electronics decide how/when the brakes are applied rather than a mechanical system with the diff (or at least that is so with the prior gen fixed ratio locking diffs).

[Steve Rance]

isaldiri said:

out of interest, what do you find about the rear braking that the car behaves diffferently and worse than with a (working) diff? Is there such a change in the dynamic behaviour of the car with one vs the other or is it more that with the rear braking the system becomes active rather than passive as the car electronics decide how/when the brakes are applied rather than a mechanical system with the diff (or at least that is so with the prior gen fixed ratio locking diffs).

When trying to trim the car on the brakes - on a trail say - one of the rears may already be on via the ABD. The effect of the drivers brake application in that circumstance nat be dynamically different than he anticipated.

[9e 28]

Steve Rance said:

Finally some sanity. Speed isnt everything on the road.

Can you imagine what the journos reaction would be if you threw a sorted air cooled into the 2015 EVO group test?

[s2t]

Lefty said:

Catchpole notable by his absence throughout the whole issue yet he remains on the contributor list. Has he quit?

No Henry was otherwise engaged at the time of ECOTY

[s2t]

Has the ECOTY issue come out, I thought it wasn't published until November 4th

[Ursicles]

Subscribers get it early

Mine was delivered yesterday.

Makes me wonder about ordering a GT4 and if there is ANY possibility of getting one!

[isaldiri]

Steve Rance said:

When trying to trim the car on the brakes - on a trail say - one of the rears may already be on via the ABD. The effect of the drivers brake application in that circumstance nat be dynamically different than he anticipated.

Makes sense, interesting to know tks.

[Steve Rance]

Most welcome

[APOLO1]

9e 28 said:

Can you imagine what the journos reaction would be if you threw a sorted air cooled into the 2015 EVO group test?

such a car has never been produced........

[Robbo66]

APOLO1 said:

9e 28 said:

Can you imagine what the journos reaction would be if you threw a sorted air cooled into the 2015 EVO group test?

such a car has never been produced........

No idea have you

[Steve Rance]

9e 28 said:

Can you imagine what the journos reaction would be if you threw a sorted air cooled into the 2015 EVO group test?

Had a conversation along the same lines with cmoose a few days ago.

[Fish]

They could throw a singer in... point is though is is the best new car 'avaliable'...

[9e 28]

APOLO1 said:

9e 28 said:

Can you imagine what the journos reaction would be if you threw a sorted air cooled into the 2015 EVO group test?

such a car has never been produced........

clap trap

2.7 RS, 3.2 clubsport, 964 RS, 993 RS amongst a whole host of standard air cooled cars running trick bits which are even more effective than the old RS cars due to newer suspension and damper tech....

[AndrewD]

9e 28 said:

Can you imagine what the journos reaction would be if you threw a sorted air cooled into the 2015 EVO group test?

Why would that be at all relevant for their ECOTY test?
Clue is in the name of the test

[9e 28]

AndrewD said:

9e 28 said:

Can you imagine what the journos reaction would be if you threw a sorted air cooled into the 2015 EVO group test?

Why would that be at all relevant for their ECOTY test?
Clue is in the name of the test

Just an observation old chap. I think the journos would swoon with something like a Singer (new car in my book) having just seen David slay Goliath

Edited by 9e 28 on Monday 2nd November 07:50

[9e 28]

This would do for me!

[AndrewD]

9e 28 said:

Just an observation old chap. I think the journos would swoon with something like a Singer (new car in my book) having just seen David just slay Goliath

So they should though, a new Singer is £500k+ landed in the UK

If we reduce all tests to our favourite old cars there wouldnt be much new to read

Don't get me wrong, I like the old cobweb cars!

[9e 28]

AndrewD said:

9e 28 said:

Just an observation old chap. I think the journos would swoon with something like a Singer (new car in my book) having just seen David just slay Goliath

So they should though, a new Singer is £500k+ landed in the UK

If we reduce all tests to our favourite old cars there wouldnt be much new to read

Don't get me wrong, I like the old cobweb cars!

Agree but you do not have to spend £500k. The car above was produced by DP motorsport. Weighs less than a tonne and has approaching 300hp. Was available for £60k for 6 months in classifieds and is virtually a new car. This would be in my fantasy ecoty

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/news/g3954/ph...

[ORD]

A Singer is the only car that would ever get more than £200k from me, I think. I even struggle to see how a 991.2 can be worth anything like £100k; but those Singer cars are just incredible.

[AndrewD]

9e 28 said:

Agree but you do not have to spend £500k. The car above was produced by DP motorsport. Weighs less than a tonne and has approaching 300hp. Was available for £60k for 6 months in classifieds and is virtually a new car. This would be in my fantasy ecoty

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/news/g3954/ph...

Pre impact bumpers and without the stickers would do it for me