Cayman GT4 Is it quick enough?

[iantr]

Michelle Keegan Is she hot enough?

[av185]

Taffy66 said:

still running in so going steady.My acid test on grunt on sports cars is can it pull up the hill into Aberystwyth at 30mph and pull away in 6th gear,the GT4 did it easily
.

Is labouring the engine shirley not the worst way to' run it in'........

[mollytherocker]

av185 said:

Taffy66 said:

still running in so going steady.My acid test on grunt on sports cars is can it pull up the hill into Aberystwyth at 30mph and pull away in 6th gear,the GT4 did it easily
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Is labouring the engine shirley not the worst way to' run it in'........

Yep, it puts massive stress on the crankshaft bearings.

And why a sports car needs to pull up a hill at 30 in 6th gear baffles me.

I would add that pulling away in 6th gear is possibly the best way to cause wear and damage to any engine.

Edited by mollytherocker on Sunday 22 November 22:25

[kbooker]

Loving the description of "quick diesel" you've all fallen for the Porsche hype and bought a pup. ..

Edited by kbooker on Sunday 22 November 23:45

[BubblesNW]

kbooker said:

Loving the description of "quick diesel" you've all fallen for the Porsche hype and bought a puppy. ..lol

Really....have you driven one? Ok, yes it has a bit more torque than a 997GT3 but compared to a McLaren or 488 it is more linear in delivery. In no way is it like a diesel which produces everything in the first half of the rev range and just makes noise after that. In 5 years this car will be seen as a classic Porsche like the better GT3s.

[Taffy66]

mollytherocker said:

av185 said:

Taffy66 said:

still running in so going steady.My acid test on grunt on sports cars is can it pull up the hill into Aberystwyth at 30mph and pull away in 6th gear,the GT4 did it easily
.

Is labouring the engine shirley not the worst way to' run it in'........

Yep, it puts massive stress on the crankshaft bearings.

And why a sports car needs to pull up a hill at 30 in 6th gear baffles me.

I would add that pulling away in 6th gear is possibly the best way to cause wear and damage to any engine.

Edited by mollytherocker on Sunday 22 November 22:25

This acid test of engine torque is a one off 5 sec test and in no way detrimental to engine longevity.In 33 years of driving approx 20 new cars have never blown an engine or burnt out a clutch!.This car is plenty quick enough for driving on our pot holed, congested, speed camera infested roads.
When i get my GT4 on to Angelsey track next spring i will be more qualified to comment on the GT4's speed.Any body who thinks the GT4 is not fast enough for UK driving conditions is an idiot imho and should stick to playing Forza on Xbox

[keep it lit]

kbooker said:

Loving the description of "quick diesel" you've all fallen for the Porsche hype and bought a pup. ..

[Robbo66]

BubblesNW said:

Really....have you driven one? ... In 5 years this car will be seen as a classic Porsche like the better GT3s.

I have.
I think it will be remembered as a 'classic' ...a 'classic' case of 'what should have been'.
The RS version rumoured, may well change this....lets hope so.

[Steve Rance]

BubblesNW said:

Really....have you driven one? Ok, yes it has a bit more torque than a 997GT3 but compared to a McLaren or 488 it is more linear in delivery. In no way is it like a diesel which produces everything in the first half of the rev range and just makes noise after that. In 5 years this car will be seen as a classic Porsche like the better GT3s.

Interesting. What GT3's would you consider to be the better ones?

[PorscheGT4]

GT4 is better than most GT3's for the road due to the extra torque at 4k revs overs the GT3's

I like torque it's wins races, it's faster out of bends etc etc

will it be a future classic, nope not if they bring out a 981.2 GT4 with a 3.8 or an RS

For road Fun a tuned R or Spyder still has all GT cars licked inc the new GT4 range :-)

I love my Spyder and you can see you cannot even give that throttle for long in the UK
https://youtu.be/NUXq8r-BD4o

Edited by PorscheGT4 on Monday 23 November 08:27

[franki68]

PorscheGT4 said:

GT4 is better than most GT3's for the road due to the extra torque at 4k revs overs the GT3's

I like torque it's wins races, it's faster out of bends etc etc

will it be a future classic, nope not if they bring out a 981.2 GT4 with a 3.8 or an RS

For road Fun a tuned R or Spyder still has all GT cars licked inc the new GT4 range :-)

I love my Spyder and you can see you cannot even give that throttle for long in the UK
https://youtu.be/NUXq8r-BD4o

Edited by PorscheGT4 on Monday 23 November 08:27

I think we know how you feel about your spyder. (Does your wife ?)

[PorscheGT4]

She knows my cars come 1st :-)

[LaSource]

Fast enough is all relative.

From a track pace perspective, my experience is that a relatively standard GT4 is about the same pace - or probably slightly quicker - as a very well setup (track focused) 996 GT3 on Cup 2s. So probably good competition for a standard 997 GT3

...assuming the current 'overs' phase diminishes and people start to use the GT4 as intended, then a more track setup one should improve a bit further....now if someone could release a cheap set of gears, that would be very interesting!

For me, it should be quick enough.

On the road, all the GT cars are too quick, so it really comes down to whether the way it drives (engine, gearing, etc) gives any thrills at road speed.

Edited by LaSource on Monday 23 November 09:57

[franki68]

Coming from a run of cars with 500bhp+ ,I still am unsure about the performance.It is fast ,but doesn't give you that sense of being pushed back into the seat that a car with 500bhp+ gives you.
I don't find myself thinking god I wish it was faster though .

[PorscheGT4]

franki68 said:

Coming from a run of cars with 500bhp+ ,I still am unsure about the performance.It is fast ,but doesn't give you that sense of being pushed back into the seat that a car with 500bhp+ gives you.
I don't find myself thinking god I wish it was faster though .

you can use a 600bhp turbo car on the road no issue.. a NA car less so as you need to take it though the gears and by that time you are going to fast and have moved too far up the road.
A 500hp Turbo car can do 40-60 in 1 second, it's usable even though it sounds like it's not because you can do daft things in a short amount of road space without having to goto 7k revs.

[Harris_I]

Hard to know sometimes if it's not me that's going mad. The GT4's stats put it in the same ballpark as an early GT3. I certainly can't wring the neck of my 996 on the road.

Getting kind of fed up with the power race. Have an F10 M5 whose power is virtually unusable in almost any situation. Not to say I don't like - it's fabulous. I just struggle to see why anyone needs that much power. Once the time comes for its replacement, I'll have no problem settling for 200bhp less.

The GT4 is just about the only Porsche I might actually consider from the current line up - precisely because it isn't overwhelmed by a rabid engine.

[iantr]

To summarise then, the Cayman GT4 is an over-hyped over-geared understeering diesel with poor fuel-economy. Most of them have chairs, brakes (sorry "breaks") that will fail if you go within 100km of a track, a diff that will be destroyed the first time you reverse out of your garage, tyres that will dive for the first ditch you pass and paint from a SEAT van.

Did I miss anything?

[Steve Rance]

PorscheGT4 said:

GT4 is better than most GT3's for the road due to the extra torque at 4k revs overs the GT3's

I like torque it's wins races, it's faster out of bends etc etc

will it be a future classic, nope not if they bring out a 981.2 GT4 with a 3.8 or an RS

For road Fun a tuned R or Spyder still has all GT cars licked inc the new GT4 range :-)

I love my Spyder and you can see you cannot even give that throttle for long in the UK
https://youtu.be/NUXq8r-BD4o

Edited by PorscheGT4 on Monday 23 November 08:27

All in your own humble opinion of course Old Thing.

By the way, torque on it's own does not win races. It does however, eat tyres, break driveshafts and transmisions. Torque can be sometimes be a driver's best frend and sometimes his worst enemy.

[PorscheGT4]

Steve Rance said:

All in your own humble opinion of course Old Thing.

By the way, torque on it's own does not win races. It does however, eat tyres, break driveshafts and transmisions. Torque can be sometimes be a driver's best frend and sometimes his worst enemy.

of course every thing is always imho :-) but with the small amounts of Torque on offer here more of it is better :-)

but I bet you would rather drive my Spyder on a B road than my Gt4 :-)

[Scooty100]

PorscheGT4 said:

GT4 is better than most GT3's for the road due to the extra torque at 4k revs overs the GT3's

I like torque it's wins races, it's faster out of bends etc etc

will it be a future classic, nope not if they bring out a 981.2 GT4 with a 3.8 or an RS

For road Fun a tuned R or Spyder still has all GT cars licked inc the new GT4 range :-)

I love my Spyder and you can see you cannot even give that throttle for long in the UK
https://youtu.be/NUXq8r-BD4o

Edited by PorscheGT4 on Monday 23 November 08:27

his your car Mr D? You have a manual?