981 Spyder or GT4 ?

[RSVP911]

spareparts said:

Good post - and you've hit my dilemma on the head as to why I'm struggling to choose between them.

I guess one question is ; have you got an option on a slot for either - if not , the cost to own differential would be substantial - if this is the case it's another reason to go for the Spyder - if not , I can't help you , sorry

Edited by RSVP911 on Thursday 26th November 08:23

Edited by RSVP911 on Thursday 26th November 08:24

[boringbeige]

I got my Spyder a week ago. Have done a thousand miles already! It's ace. Much better than I expected. It's plenty quick enough for UK country roads and the narrow tyres (compared to GT4) really allow the 3.8 torque to express itself. It sounds mega too.

[PorscheGT4]

RSVP911 said:

I love the honest simplicity of the concept - listening to others it sounds like I won't be disappointed

very honest and simple this ......

electric steering
Porsche torque vectoring
PSM
Active engine mounts
Auto blip
Fake exhaust sounds.
electric hand brake

nothing wrong with the car as the GT4 has all that also, but you cannot say "I love the honest simplicity of the concept " lol

you mean it has a clutch :-)

have people gone mad ?

[Trotmant]

av185 said:

last of a line n.a engine as the next gen will probably be a turbo as it is a non G T car.

I think this is a very astute point. Given the 4 success there will certainty be another na version in the future

[RSVP911]

PorscheGT4 said:

nothing wrong with the car as the GT4 has all that also, but you cannot say "I love the honest simplicity of the concept " lol

you mean it has a clutch :-)

have people gone mad ?

I absolutely can and I did - please don't tell me what I can and can't say on a public forum - especially when a huge amount of what you say is highly inflammatory and sometimes aggressive and rude. You obviously have a fair amount of technical knoledge and experience , why not use it to support and inform in a less aggressive way ? (Btw putting a smiley face after the comment doesn't help - my response is based on reading so many of your posts over a long period of time and in truth , it isn't really aimed at this one comment)

I wasn't referring to mechanical simplicity - I am not a good enough driver for these advances to cloud my driving experience - don't get me wrong , I love mechanical honesty - I have old air cooled cars and really enjoy driving them , I also have a 991 RS and really enjoy driving this too - they are both amazing experiences , but different experiences . It's about what you want the car to do - they all offer different approaches - there is no right or wrong in respect to these types of questions.

FWIW , I was referring to the simplicity of a manual box , no roof , a lovely exhaust note , pottering along on a Sunday morning on a lovely county A road - it sounds like fun to me .

[PorscheGT4]

As I said, "you mean it has a clutch"

:-)

[RSVP911]

PorscheGT4 said:

As I said, "you mean it has a clutch"

:-)

Yes you are 100 % right , that's exactly what I meant

[spareparts]

RSVP911 said:

I guess one question is ; have you got an option on a slot for either - if not , the cost to own differential would be substantial - if this is the case it's another reason to go for the Spyder - if not , I can't help you , sorry

Yes, for both.

boringbeige said:

I got my Spyder a week ago. Have done a thousand miles already! It's ace. Much better than I expected. It's plenty quick enough for UK country roads and the narrow tyres (compared to GT4) really allow the 3.8 torque to express itself. It sounds mega too.

You raise a good point about the tyres. My previous 997.2 GTS4 felt overtyred with the amount of mechanical grip and relative lack of torque it offered. Then my 997.2 Turbo S solved that issue, but it introduced a new problem that revealed itself over time and was a reason I got bored with Porsches: it was simply too fast for the public road before it became exciting enough to hold your attention (and the BIB!). By the time I sold it earlier this year, it was merely a form of transport; and driving the 7.2 TurboS at 3/10ths offers as much interest as driving a Mondeo.

The Spyder and GT4 appeal because I think 400hp, 2wd, and upto-300 section tyres is about the optimum you can realistically enjoy on the public road and have proper fun in without needing to break 150mph for thrills. We've seen this formula used to great effect by some great cars in the past. It is too easy to have too much power, and Porsche are to be lauded for restraint on the Gt4/Spyder power outputs.

About a dozen years since the 996GT3 started cleaning up E/COTY awards, it's telling that the same simple basic formula still wins despite the enormous advances in power outputs and chassis electrickery in the latest 2015 cars.

Edited by spareparts on Thursday 26th November 10:21

[philnotts]

spareparts said:

RSVP911 said:

I guess one question is ; have you got an option on a slot for either - if not , the cost to own differential would be substantial - if this is the case it's another reason to go for the Spyder - if not , I can't help you , sorry

Yes, for both.

Why don't you buy both and see which one you like after 3 months. Its highly likely you will not loose anything on either?

[boringbeige]

You can't do this in a gt4.

[mdianuk]

boringbeige said:

You can't do this in a gt4.

What, park it in front of a rock?

[RSVP911]

spareparts said:

Ah , ok , tough call - I see your dilemma , tricky !

Edited by spareparts on Thursday 26th November 10:21

[Elvorfin]

This might be a stupid question as the Spyder hasn't really been on my radar, can you actually get one or does it have the same unicorn status as the GT4?

[PorscheGT4]

you cannot get them, overs are much less though at about 10 to 15k

[MagicRat]

As a biker I'd go for the open-topped option every time. Driving a coupe, no matter how fast, has always felt like an incomplete experience to me, but I'm aware that many others feel differently.

[av185]

PorscheGT4 said:

you cannot get them, overs are much less though at about 10 to 15k

Romans average spec car is well priced at £20k premium.

Only one available fwiw.

[PorscheGT4]

av185 said:

Romans average spec car is well priced at £20k premium.

Only one available fwiw.

and is for sale still ;-/ no ones going to pay £20k over atm.

[av185]

PorscheGT4 said:

av185 said:

Romans average spec car is well priced at £20k premium.

Only one available fwiw.

and is for sale still ;-/ no ones going to pay £20k over atm.

Why not? Good value relative to the GT4 although admittedly the worst time to be selling a cab.

Seem to recollect you were saying similar thing about the GT3......before it went ballistic....:

[mdianuk]

PorscheGT4 said:

and is for sale still ;-/ no ones going to pay £20k over atm.

Have you sold your GT4 MrD, you've avoided the question thus far?

[BubblesNW]

mdianuk said:

PorscheGT4 said:

and is for sale still ;-/ no ones going to pay £20k over atm.

Have you sold your GT4 MrD, you've avoided the question thus far?

He'll have change his name again. What about "Permanent a Wave TT"?
At this rate he will have had more names than Cheryl Tweedy / Cole / Vasina....