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I've had a deposit down for a 991.2 GT3 for a fair while. I'm well aware this isn't a guarantee I'll get one. But as I was first at my local OPC to put a deposit down for a bogo GT3 rather than join the list of people scrabbling for an RS build slot, and I am a previous 997.2 GT3 owner that used the car properly, I am mildly hopeful that I will get a build slot.
I'm pretty sure I'll be ordering PDK regardless of a manual option. As the car will be daily driven. I'm also four years into a frequently recurring torn left calf injury, which is part of the reason I let the 997.2 GT3 go.
I'll be interested to see what other factual information arises from this thread. As others have touched upon; To me it wouldn't seem to make sense to release a new GT3 with the same power as an RS that's currently being delivered. So if it is to be 500hp, it's probably more likely to be 2017 delivery. That wouldn't be the end of the world for me as info has been so lacking with release dates, that I've given into my impatience and just bought a left hooker 991.1 GT3 to entertain in the mean time.
I'm pretty sure I'll be ordering PDK regardless of a manual option. As the car will be daily driven. I'm also four years into a frequently recurring torn left calf injury, which is part of the reason I let the 997.2 GT3 go.
I'll be interested to see what other factual information arises from this thread. As others have touched upon; To me it wouldn't seem to make sense to release a new GT3 with the same power as an RS that's currently being delivered. So if it is to be 500hp, it's probably more likely to be 2017 delivery. That wouldn't be the end of the world for me as info has been so lacking with release dates, that I've given into my impatience and just bought a left hooker 991.1 GT3 to entertain in the mean time.
PhilMorrison said:
I've had a deposit down for a 991.2 GT3 for a fair while. I'm well aware this isn't a guarantee I'll get one. But as I was first at my local OPC to put a deposit down for a bogo GT3 rather than join the list of people scrabbling for an RS build slot, and I am a previous 997.2 GT3 owner that used the car properly, I am mildly hopeful that I will get a build slot.
I'm pretty sure I'll be ordering PDK regardless of a manual option. As the car will be daily driven. I'm also four years into a frequently recurring torn left calf injury, which is part of the reason I let the 997.2 GT3 go.
I'll be interested to see what other factual information arises from this thread. As others have touched upon; To me it wouldn't seem to make sense to release a new GT3 with the same power as an RS that's currently being delivered. So if it is to be 500hp, it's probably more likely to be 2017 delivery. That wouldn't be the end of the world for me as info has been so lacking with release dates, that I've given into my impatience and just bought a left hooker 991.1 GT3 to entertain in the mean time.
my understanding is that the dealerships cant/shouldn't take a deposit for a car that has yet to be released ! please can anyone advise me of a centre that will, as I would love to try and deposit I'm pretty sure I'll be ordering PDK regardless of a manual option. As the car will be daily driven. I'm also four years into a frequently recurring torn left calf injury, which is part of the reason I let the 997.2 GT3 go.
I'll be interested to see what other factual information arises from this thread. As others have touched upon; To me it wouldn't seem to make sense to release a new GT3 with the same power as an RS that's currently being delivered. So if it is to be 500hp, it's probably more likely to be 2017 delivery. That wouldn't be the end of the world for me as info has been so lacking with release dates, that I've given into my impatience and just bought a left hooker 991.1 GT3 to entertain in the mean time.
Deansfield said:
PhilMorrison said:
I've had a deposit down for a 991.2 GT3 for a fair while. I'm well aware this isn't a guarantee I'll get one. But as I was first at my local OPC to put a deposit down for a bogo GT3 rather than join the list of people scrabbling for an RS build slot, and I am a previous 997.2 GT3 owner that used the car properly, I am mildly hopeful that I will get a build slot.
I'm pretty sure I'll be ordering PDK regardless of a manual option. As the car will be daily driven. I'm also four years into a frequently recurring torn left calf injury, which is part of the reason I let the 997.2 GT3 go.
I'll be interested to see what other factual information arises from this thread. As others have touched upon; To me it wouldn't seem to make sense to release a new GT3 with the same power as an RS that's currently being delivered. So if it is to be 500hp, it's probably more likely to be 2017 delivery. That wouldn't be the end of the world for me as info has been so lacking with release dates, that I've given into my impatience and just bought a left hooker 991.1 GT3 to entertain in the mean time.
my understanding is that the dealerships cant/shouldn't take a deposit for a car that has yet to be released ! please can anyone advise me of a centre that will, as I would love to try and deposit I'm pretty sure I'll be ordering PDK regardless of a manual option. As the car will be daily driven. I'm also four years into a frequently recurring torn left calf injury, which is part of the reason I let the 997.2 GT3 go.
I'll be interested to see what other factual information arises from this thread. As others have touched upon; To me it wouldn't seem to make sense to release a new GT3 with the same power as an RS that's currently being delivered. So if it is to be 500hp, it's probably more likely to be 2017 delivery. That wouldn't be the end of the world for me as info has been so lacking with release dates, that I've given into my impatience and just bought a left hooker 991.1 GT3 to entertain in the mean time.
AndrewIC said:
Yes official rules are that an OPC should not take a deposit until official announcement. I personally think this is good and would never give a deposit over prior to launch, you just need to build a good relationship with a salesmen who you trust and is actually honest (yes I am aware that sadly they are not all like this).
Why should you care about paying a small (say £3k) provisional, refundable deposit to show you are serious?sidicks said:
Why should you care about paying a small (say £3k) provisional, refundable deposit to show you are serious?
because it's £10k on a car that value ! And you place it when you order it !But I am with most, I did not place a deposit on my GT4 until I ordered it. And will not on the GT3 as there is no need if you know your OPC.
I kept asking my OPC "do you want my money" they said no it will only sit in our bank and nothing to do with Porsche.
Porsche911R said:
because it's £10k on a car that value ! And you place it when you order it !
But I am with most, I did not place a deposit on my GT4 until I ordered it. And will not on the GT3 as there is no need if you know your OPC.
I kept asking my OPC "do you want my money" they said no it will only sit in our bank and nothing to do with Porsche.
I paid a £3k provisional deposit for my GT3 to demonstrate I was a serious buyer. I got a car and never had to increase my deposit to £10k.But I am with most, I did not place a deposit on my GT4 until I ordered it. And will not on the GT3 as there is no need if you know your OPC.
I kept asking my OPC "do you want my money" they said no it will only sit in our bank and nothing to do with Porsche.
I am sure that I will to need to do this if I decide to request a 991.2 GT3, now I have a relationship with the OPC.
sidicks said:
I paid a £3k provisional deposit for my GT3 to demonstrate I was a serious buyer. I got a car and never had to increase my deposit to £10k.
I am sure that I will to need to do this if I decide to request a 991.2 GT3, now I have a relationship with the OPC.
I never left a deposit as I said, my £5k was when I ordered a car in my spec, it's £10k for more expensive cars.I am sure that I will to need to do this if I decide to request a 991.2 GT3, now I have a relationship with the OPC.
OPC who ask for money are not playing by the rules and it means nothing as many many depositors found and they just all went mad on here for months.
loi and deposits are worthless on low build number high demand cars.
If I left a deposit I would want a car, NO OPC should take a deposit and NOT let you have a car imo.
Porsche911R said:
I never left a deposit as I said, my £5k was when I ordered a car in my spec, it's £10k for more expensive cars.
As I said, that's not set in stone. I only ever provided a £3k deposit for my GT3.Porsche911R said:
OPC who ask for money are not playing by the rules and it means nothing as many many depositors found and they just all went mad on here for months.
loi and deposits are worthless on low build number high demand cars.
If I left a deposit I would want a car, NO OPC should take a deposit and NOT let you have a car imo.
For these cars, the OPC will have more LOI than cars available. If paying a deposit early on in the process helps to prove that you are a serious purchaser (and you haven't produced multiple LOIs at numerous dealerships) and thereby helps get you a car, then it's worth doing.loi and deposits are worthless on low build number high demand cars.
If I left a deposit I would want a car, NO OPC should take a deposit and NOT let you have a car imo.
Of course theres no guarantee, and the paperwork confirms that.
It worked for me though, no matter what you say!
sidicks said:
For these cars, the OPC will have more LOI than cars available. If paying a deposit early on in the process helps to prove that you are a serious purchaser (and you haven't produced multiple LOIs at numerous dealerships) and thereby helps get you a car, then it's worth doing.
Of course theres no guarantee, and the paperwork confirms that.
It worked for me though, no matter what you say!
100% agree as it worked for me also. If I had listened to "advice" from some forum members here and on another Porsche UK forum I would have missed out on the GT4. Of course theres no guarantee, and the paperwork confirms that.
It worked for me though, no matter what you say!
Edited by Littleern on Thursday 3rd March 15:56
sidicks said:
AndrewIC said:
Yes official rules are that an OPC should not take a deposit until official announcement. I personally think this is good and would never give a deposit over prior to launch, you just need to build a good relationship with a salesmen who you trust and is actually honest (yes I am aware that sadly they are not all like this).
Why should you care about paying a small (say £3k) provisional, refundable deposit to show you are serious?I never placed a deposit on a GT3, but was offered several new cars as I have a good relationship with the sales guys.
Porsche911R said:
I never left a deposit as I said, my £5k was when I ordered a car in my spec, it's £10k for more expensive cars.
OPC who ask for money are not playing by the rules and it means nothing as many many depositors found and they just all went mad on here for months.
loi and deposits are worthless on low build number high demand cars.
If I left a deposit I would want a car, NO OPC should take a deposit and NOT let you have a car imo.
The deposit amounts are at the dealers discretion,hence why everyone pays different amounts.OPC who ask for money are not playing by the rules and it means nothing as many many depositors found and they just all went mad on here for months.
loi and deposits are worthless on low build number high demand cars.
If I left a deposit I would want a car, NO OPC should take a deposit and NOT let you have a car imo.
You are a100% right with your last sentence though,and if they do take a deposit and don't give you a car they should pay the interest on the money they took.
Porsche911R said:
I never left a deposit as I said, my £5k was when I ordered a car in my spec, it's £10k for more expensive cars.
OPC who ask for money are not playing by the rules and it means nothing as many many depositors found and they just all went mad on here for months.
loi and deposits are worthless on low build number high demand cars.
If I left a deposit I would want a car, NO OPC should take a deposit and NOT let you have a car imo.
The deposit amounts are at the dealers discretion,hence why everyone pays different amounts.OPC who ask for money are not playing by the rules and it means nothing as many many depositors found and they just all went mad on here for months.
loi and deposits are worthless on low build number high demand cars.
If I left a deposit I would want a car, NO OPC should take a deposit and NOT let you have a car imo.
You are a100% right with your last sentence though,and if they do take a deposit and don't give you a car they should pay the interest on the money they took.
franki68 said:
The deposit amounts are at the dealers discretion,hence why everyone pays different amounts.
not quite sure that's right, Porsche want money when you place an order and it's locked in, nothing to do with the dealer.On a rare car the dealers don't mind so much if you drop out, but run of the mill cars need an amount paying.
now the deposit thing before an order IS a dealer thing, but I have never had to do that and that is nothing to do with Porsche. just poor dealers imo.
Last weeks news, but various mags are now confirming AP said the next GT3 will get the 6-speed box out of the R and not the 7-speed jobbie.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-gene...
"guru Andreas Preuninger has confirmed the six-speed manual gearbox used in the 911 R will be available as an option on the next generation of GT3 as well.
However, the track-focused GT3 RS will remain PDK only.
He confirmed his cars will retain natural aspiration “for the foreseeable future” with the sole exception of the next GT2 RS due in 2017. Contrary to those who maintain the new 718 Cayman will only accept four-cylinder engines, Preuninger said there will be a new Cayman GT4 and it will have six cylinders.
Porsche will also look to offer more 'purist' models in the future as part of regular production runs if the 911 R is a success.
The 911 R will be limited to 991 units because Preuninger didn't want to make any more or have the R become a regular production model in order to preserve the car's exclusivity, as with the original 1967 R, which the new car plays homage to.
However, Preuninger said that "if the reaction is as strong as we believe, we have to find a way to produce a car like that in future models without an R badge".
Preuninger also said there was more to come from his GT division and the 991-generation 911. He said there "was a book open with the turbo engine and the GT2" in particular.
"The GT2 plays a different role with GTs. It has to be the ultimate beast, not a widow maker but a car you have to respect and is not too compliant."
As for the R, Preuninger said that the original prototype was born in winter 2013 out of a development car made for the 991 GT3 equipped with a manual gearbox. This was created for back-to-back testing with the PDK-equipped GT3 that was chosen for production.
"We had a GT3 manual test car left and we all loved it," said Preuninger. "The manual still had many positive sides. So we took the spoiler off the test car, added some lightweight stuff, some stripes and a classic interior. At this point, I took it to the chairman. He liked it, but we had no engineering capacity so only started work 13 months ago. That's a short time, so I insisted on all the decision making and a long, long leash from the board."
The original plan was to make 600 units but this increased to 991 following strong initial feedback when details first appeared on the Internet.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-gene...
"guru Andreas Preuninger has confirmed the six-speed manual gearbox used in the 911 R will be available as an option on the next generation of GT3 as well.
However, the track-focused GT3 RS will remain PDK only.
He confirmed his cars will retain natural aspiration “for the foreseeable future” with the sole exception of the next GT2 RS due in 2017. Contrary to those who maintain the new 718 Cayman will only accept four-cylinder engines, Preuninger said there will be a new Cayman GT4 and it will have six cylinders.
Porsche will also look to offer more 'purist' models in the future as part of regular production runs if the 911 R is a success.
The 911 R will be limited to 991 units because Preuninger didn't want to make any more or have the R become a regular production model in order to preserve the car's exclusivity, as with the original 1967 R, which the new car plays homage to.
However, Preuninger said that "if the reaction is as strong as we believe, we have to find a way to produce a car like that in future models without an R badge".
Preuninger also said there was more to come from his GT division and the 991-generation 911. He said there "was a book open with the turbo engine and the GT2" in particular.
"The GT2 plays a different role with GTs. It has to be the ultimate beast, not a widow maker but a car you have to respect and is not too compliant."
As for the R, Preuninger said that the original prototype was born in winter 2013 out of a development car made for the 991 GT3 equipped with a manual gearbox. This was created for back-to-back testing with the PDK-equipped GT3 that was chosen for production.
"We had a GT3 manual test car left and we all loved it," said Preuninger. "The manual still had many positive sides. So we took the spoiler off the test car, added some lightweight stuff, some stripes and a classic interior. At this point, I took it to the chairman. He liked it, but we had no engineering capacity so only started work 13 months ago. That's a short time, so I insisted on all the decision making and a long, long leash from the board."
The original plan was to make 600 units but this increased to 991 following strong initial feedback when details first appeared on the Internet.
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