Porsche 911R Discussion Forum

Porsche 911R Discussion Forum

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mdianuk

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2,890 posts

171 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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As we don't have a specific 911R thread (apart from one pointing to what else may be at Geneva), I thought it would be worth having one.

First details have been leaked, http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/911/94601/new...

What are general opinions? Do we think this will be a limited run 911 or similar to the Cayman R, a raid on the parts bin and available to all?

Can we see this car being the desired 911 in the range?

Discuss...


Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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If they're talking about the 911R here then it's a strictly limited edition car:

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/products/porsche-7...

if it was regular production I reckon it would be the perfect 'enthusiasts choice' car.

_Leg_

2,798 posts

211 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Shall I start a "I put an LOI in a year ago and the dealer says they've sold all their allocation and I can't have one" thread or will this thread suffice?

Cos I did, and I bet I don't get one. Cynical? Moi? Never.

CarreraLightweightRacing

2,011 posts

209 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Those lucky few getting a 911R will already know they are getting one wink

apachesmith

499 posts

120 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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_Leg_ said:
Shall I start a "I put an LOI in a year ago and the dealer says they've sold all their allocation and I can't have one" thread or will this thread suffice?

Cos I did, and I bet I don't get one. Cynical? Moi? Never.
I did the same however my dealer was good enough at the time to say don't bother we have already allocated them to our VIP customers and have a waiting list of VIP customers who were not fortunate to get an allocation!!!!

_Leg_

2,798 posts

211 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Yup. After being knocked back on the GT3RS, having my Gt4 deposit returned and now the inevitable knock back on the R I'm done with Porsche. I'll stick with the 2 I have and my new car money will be going elsewhere. I'm not even going to try anymore. Sulking.

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Look forward to seeing it in Geneva on Friday, but to be fair it is just a GT3 without the rear wing so not much to see!

mdianuk

Original Poster:

2,890 posts

171 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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So diverting away from LOI's etc (I may reach out to my contact, see if I can have one ha), what makes this car so very special compared to a GT3RS? I always assume (wrongly!) that the 'R' of current generations is just Porsche's way of using up the parts bin!

lsb

447 posts

222 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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As per GT4 thread :


Interestingly Porsche launches it's lightweight and rare 991 R model without a sniff of extended leather or a deviated stitch in sight.... Oh the shame of a dark, plastic interior.

Oh wait, just maybe they know a thing or two about these things - but the average GT4 owner would have to turn it down as it looks awfully poverty spec laugh

Dr S

4,997 posts

226 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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mdianuk said:
So diverting away from LOI's etc (I may reach out to my contact, see if I can have one ha), what makes this car so very special compared to a GT3RS? I always assume (wrongly!) that the 'R' of current generations is just Porsche's way of using up the parts bin!
There have already been two threads on the topic. The car is supposed to get a six speed manual instead of PDK-S, the RS engine and magnesium roof and allegedly a number of CF body parts to keep weight down.

hunter 66

3,905 posts

220 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Yes new owners all done already .. looks great

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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hondansx said:
Look forward to seeing it in Geneva on Friday, but to be fair it is just a GT3 without the rear wing so not much to see!
To be fair, that's not accurate at all.

If the rumours are to be believed:
- 6-speed manual gearbox
- Updated engine

Which for many people will make a massive difference!

However, if the rumours around the GT3.2 are to be believed, this will also have the same gearbox as an option, so not clear what the 'R" offers above the GT3.2, particularly when you actually might have half a chance of getting a GT3.2...

mdianuk

Original Poster:

2,890 posts

171 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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sidicks said:
To be fair, that's not accurate at all.

If the rumours are to be believed:
- 6-speed manual gearbox
- Updated engine

Which for many people will make a massive difference!

However, if the rumours around the GT3.2 are to be believed, this will also have the same gearbox as an option, so not clear what the 'R" offers above the GT3.2, particularly when you actually might have half a chance of getting a GT3.2...
I think he was saying in terms of looking at it, it will look similar, not that there isn't much different under the skin.

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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mdianuk said:
I think he was saying in terms of looking at it, it will look similar, not that there isn't much different under the skin.
My mistake. in that case Hondansx, please accept my apologies. I see you were referring to appearance only.

I'm assuming they've done a lot of aero work to compensate for the removed wing?!

Edited by sidicks on Monday 29th February 12:28

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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anonymous said:
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Are the wheels the same as the GT3 or the even larger GT3 RS?

Presumably they can't go smaller than the current GT3 sizes and still fit the Carbon Ceramics (which will presumably still be an option)?

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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I doubt that; it's not like a Carrera is unstable or performs badly on track. It would have a natural tendency to understeer with the GT3 front but balance can be fixed with suspension tweaks.

I am surprised they didn't use the duck tail spoiler from the parts bin, but you could argue from a design point of view it is 'purer' to have nothing and from a hierachy point of view, it would lose a few tenths at every big corner on a track versus a GT3.

apachesmith

499 posts

120 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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sidicks said:
hondansx said:
Look forward to seeing it in Geneva on Friday, but to be fair it is just a GT3 without the rear wing so not much to see!
To be fair, that's not accurate at all.

If the rumours are to be believed:
- 6-speed manual gearbox
- Updated engine

Which for many people will make a massive difference!

However, if the rumours around the GT3.2 are to be believed, this will also have the same gearbox as an option, so not clear what the 'R" offers above the GT3.2, particularly when you actually might have half a chance of getting a GT3.2...
+1

If the rumours are to believed there will be the new engine in the .2 GT3 with a manual option then you're getting 8/10ths of the R for normalish money and stand half a chance of getting one!

Edited by apachesmith on Monday 29th February 12:36

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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hondansx said:
I doubt that; it's not like a Carrera is unstable or performs badly on track. It would have a natural tendency to understeer with the GT3 front but balance can be fixed with suspension tweaks.
Surely if it has the extra downforce from the GT3 front, without the extra downforce at the rear, it will be more likely to oversteer compared to the GT3 (or have I misunderstood your point - again?!).

gbrown2014

220 posts

113 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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If the gen 2 gt3 is manual, doesn't that take away most of the appeal of this car?

EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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gbrown2014 said:
If the gen 2 gt3 is manual, doesn't that take away most of the appeal of this car?
Porsche wouldn't career as they have already sold every 911R they plan to make.

CH's take on this (I think he has a point)

https://twitter.com/harrismonkey/status/7042595364...