GT4 on track

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jackwood

2,617 posts

209 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Lasitha said:
Here's one of my vids from the day smile

https://youtu.be/tsuAZa9Z9sA
Nicely done!

Good 1:22 clear lap in the middle there.

Chris, that was Mike that came past the M3 near the end of the vid. Clearly quite a bit quicker.

Looking forward to that PAX? biggrin

Lasitha

177 posts

192 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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W12JFD said:
Lasitha said:
Here's one of my vids from the day smile

https://youtu.be/tsuAZa9Z9sA
Lightened M3 on slicks? It's rather impolite when people hold you up like that!
Not at all. Full interior with quite a few options. Was on cups on the day. Only other upgrades are suspension and brakes smile

Kenjb83

58 posts

95 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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I've just bought my first porsche, a gt4 and wanted to know if anybody could recommend a beginner track to get used to the car. absolutely love it at the moment.

fioran0

2,410 posts

173 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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ChrisW. said:
Jack, you are quick smile

I'd like to see 125 into Craners in a GT3 from the passenger seat .... in terms of Kinetic Energy the Gt3 would need a third more grip and power for a similar mass, to make this achievable. Ignoring the fact that I've played with Mike on the GP circuit in my 993RS and watched him throw it off at the Melbourne loops ...

No disrespect.Please show me smile

Remembering always that this is for fun !
Chris,

Donington is one of the few UK tracks I have actually driven on. I saw 219.2 kph top speed on my data at the exit of Craners on a 1:10:58 lap with the short configuration. That was in a stock 3.6 997 Cup on Michelins. Converted over to old money thats about 136 mph.
To get that I had to be flat all the way from the exit of turn 1 until braking for turn 4 (old hairpin). It never felt comfortable to do this and I needed a patient exit from turn 1 too.

Anything above 1:11:00 felt less stressful. Data trace shows why I guess. Maintenance throttle round turn 3 (craners). For a 1:11:11 lap the data says I was holding ~210 kph round turn 3. Max speed shown was 210.7 kph which is about 131 mph.

Data for both laps below. I guess Mikes 125 mph could be possible. I was about 1.6G sustained round turn 3 according to these.






Edited by fioran0 on Saturday 11th June 17:27

jackwood

2,617 posts

209 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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eek

That's awesome!

1.6g? Can't even comprehend that.

Neil, when you say Michelins do you mean slicks or Cups? Slicks, surely!

Cunno

511 posts

158 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Jack
I'm sure Mike told me he was at 116mph gps about 111mph into the left at cranes, still way quicker than me, he had turned up the cambers on the car before setting off to that TD (Porsche day). I did try and follow his lead but ended up needing new shorts and rear tyres by the time I got to the old hair pin backwards. These day I tap the brakes and stick to 100-105 gps not as scary and just as much fun. Here's a clip of the 997.1 from a couple of years back 121.3 the only clean lap of the day early on while still setting tyres and suspension up. If you think it was a bad morning I suggest you try it when the fun cup cars are using it as a test day, nightmare.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbHXF9rZqC4&sns...



jackwood

2,617 posts

209 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Yes Jon, he said his previous fastest before Monday was 117mph. Monday he was just quoting speedo reading, not GPS. Could just be his eyesight. He is knocking on a bit now...

Cunno

511 posts

158 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Sorry jack
Didn't realise he was there, was he in the 996.2? And where is the video?

fioran0

2,410 posts

173 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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jackwood said:
Neil, when you say Michelins do you mean slicks or Cups? Slicks, surely!
Yeah sorry. Michelin slicks.

jackwood

2,617 posts

209 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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Cunno said:
Sorry jack
Didn't realise he was there, was he in the 996.2? And where is the video?
Yes he was. You an see it right at the end of the CSL video.

ChrisW.

6,335 posts

256 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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fioran0 said:
Chris,

Donington is one of the few UK tracks I have actually driven on. I saw 219.2 kph top speed on my data at the exit of Craners on a 1:10:58 lap with the short configuration. That was in a stock 3.6 997 Cup on Michelins. Converted over to old money thats about 136 mph.
To get that I had to be flat all the way from the exit of turn 1 until braking for turn 4 (old hairpin). It never felt comfortable to do this and I needed a patient exit from turn 1 too.

Anything above 1:11:00 felt less stressful. Data trace shows why I guess. Maintenance throttle round turn 3 (craners). For a 1:11:11 lap the data says I was holding ~210 kph round turn 3. Max speed shown was 210.7 kph which is about 131 mph.

Data for both laps below. I guess Mikes 125 mph could be possible. I was about 1.6G sustained round turn 3 according to these.






Edited by fioran0 on Saturday 11th June 17:27
Thanks Neil,

Great to see and I guess that makes us all - right smile

And yes, I'm still up for a passenger ride --- I'm still on a learning curve and trust good drivers not to bin it !!


(If invited and happily on an exchange basis !!)

BubblesNW

1,710 posts

184 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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ChrisW. said:
Thanks Neil,

Great to see and I guess that makes us all - right smile

And yes, I'm still up for a passenger ride --- I'm still on a learning curve and trust good drivers not to bin it !!


(If invited and happily on an exchange basis !!)
I hope you have a large supply of brave pills to PAX with Mike, he does have a certain style and confidence which results in a few nervous passengers with a grey complexion getting out of his GT3.

ChrisW.

6,335 posts

256 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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I would do my best smile ....


n17ves

591 posts

179 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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First track day in the GT4 yesterday over at Croft……the car is just epic! Although it was a supercar only day, and the junior GT4 not being the fastest on the straights, it could pretty much drive around anything there over a full lap. Truly a sensational car.

I eventually settled on 32/25 hot tyre pressures and trying a few different options, seemed to be the best compromise with balance. Still running standard geo and arb settings (med-med). I really don’t see the need to change this right now, the car only really understeered a tad when going ham fisted into a corner and attempting the apex. I also seem to have the opposite to some others on here with wear, and found myself cooking the rears and not the fronts (Dunlops) – I had to drop the pressures a lot on the rear to compensate for this.

All in all a good day, I’ll have to tag along to the next GT4 track day gathering.

n17ves

591 posts

179 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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LaSource said:
I use Surrey Rolling Road down south - I believe the same apparatus. Charlie also has traces from all my previous visits so useful to spare across cars/models
Results are in!

Not sure whether to share - I think there might be some surprised people.

jackwood

2,617 posts

209 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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Sounds like your driving style is similar to mine then!

And of course you have to share!! Come on. Spill.

n17ves

591 posts

179 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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jackwood said:
Sounds like your driving style is similar to mine then!

And of course you have to share!! Come on. Spill.
Well we all know dynos are a bit of a numbers lottery......359 yikes

Interestingly with the exhaust flaps open there is a bit more torque below 4k, no difference above.

jackwood

2,617 posts

209 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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Wow! That's low!

lemmingjames

7,463 posts

205 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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Come on son, post the charts

boxsey

3,575 posts

211 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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Lasitha said:
Here's one of my vids from the day smile

https://youtu.be/tsuAZa9Z9sA
Enjoyed that. It shows the alternative view of you and David (yellow GT4) that I had previously posted (as filmed from my car). thumbup