Serious Issues With GT4!!

[vilfredo]

eCotY land. Where exactly is this bridge?

[HokumPokum]

That unfortunately is the issue with road driving. Depending on who is sharing the road, acceptability of driving standards will vary.

[av185]

anonymous said:

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Unfortunately this is becoming an increasing problem in the UK.

Typical example we have all experienced is tailing a convoy of vehicles crawling along in perfect driving conditions on a straight wide road at 29mph in a recently 'demoted 60 to a 50' where the opportunities to overtake safely are limited, but when passing this is accompanied by gesticulations, horns and flashing headlights invariably from Miss/Mr Daisy her/himself at the front who clearly view you as Beelzebub or something much worse.

I blame the Daily Fail. Or the Express.

[Sandy59]

vilfredo said:

eCotY land. Where exactly is this bridge?

Kylesku bridge, way up the NW :

[franki68]

av185 said:

Unfortunately this is becoming an increasing problem in the UK.

Typical example we have all experienced is tailing a convoy of vehicles crawling along in perfect driving conditions on a straight wide road at 29mph in a recently 'demoted 60 to a 50' where the opportunities to overtake safely are limited, but when passing this is accompanied by gesticulations, horns and flashing headlights invariably from Miss/Mr Daisy her/himself at the front who clearly view you as Beelzebub or something much worse.

I blame the Daily Fail. Or the Express.

And one day one of these guys will with their dash cam record such an occurence and provide the video to police.

[av185]

franki68 said:

And one day one of these guys will with their dash cam record such an occurence and provide the video to police.

Judging by the number of warp speed mentalist suicidal bikers (without being stereotypical ) overtaking and constantly crossing central white lines excessively exceeding the speed limit clearly guilty of numerous heinous crimes and regularly captured by dashcam footage I doubt whether Plod would show any interest until there is a serious rta or fatality.

[jackwood]

anonymous said:

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There were a lot of us, but we never all travelled together. It's impossible with that number of cars with drivers of different abilities/confidence/comfort levels. So the convoy normally finds itself split up into 3 or 4 smaller groups and spread out down the road.

The North West is quite different to most other places I've ever driven. The roads are generally very well sighted, and if you pick the right time of year, sparsely populated. For example, the run from Kylesku to pretty-much Loch Carron on the way home on Monday I think we saw maybe 4 other vehicles, only one going in our direction that we had to overtake. Obviously it's not always like that, but you get the gist.

Generally there was an even split between fist shakers and fist pumpers. The main thing is obviously to respect the locals and respect the village and town speed limits. The only police we saw were in villages. Normally stopping the "45mph Brigade". You know, the ones who do 45 in a NSL, 60, 50, 40 or 30 zone....

It's just about common sense really. I know there seems a distinct lack of that around in this day and age, but if you use it, you shouldn't go wrong.

[jackwood]

I'd rather go to Scotland than the Alps, to be honest.

The highlands are full of locals that pedal their Mondeos, Passats and LandCruisers at ferocious pace. Like I said, as long as you respects the village and town limits, the locals seem pretty sound. You can't legislate for everyone, but they seem as car-friendly as anywhere else up there. Maybe more-so. I'm not sure "visitors" or tourists would really be arsed wasting their holiday calling police to report cars. Well to start with, they'd really struggle as there's no real phone signal up there! The real issue is that with all the publicity of the NC500 it is getting busy up there in peak season. You really need to pick your time to get nice clear runs that were the norm even 3 years ago.

[jackwood]

stuart b said:

jackwood said:

All the way up to Durness. Tried to do a loop round to Tongue and Lairg back to Kylesku (overnight stop) but a biker had had an accident on one of the single tracks between Durness and Tongue so we just turned round and went back the way we came. Still absolutely stunning. Biker was ok, by the way. But was lying in the middle of the road waiting for ambulance. Just some broken ribs and concussion.

I was riding the bike that let you all by just before we came across the accident. I'm still trying to find out if he was definitely OK, but he did not seem to be deteriorating (likely ribs/possible collar bone). A fourth doctor arrived (not sure if he was called or just passing) who had meds with him and gave pain relief (this is about 40 mins after the accident). Ambulance arrived shortly after that and then we found a place for the air ambulance to land a few minutes later.

I left after that as there was no more we could do and we were just going to be getting in the way. Hopefully he's all right. It's beautiful up there, but not a great place to have an incident.

Stuart

There was quite a crowd gathering. The guy wouldn't let James examine him at all. He certainly seemed stable. Just quite a lot of pain.

Had a nice run back down that road, apart from two Belgian bikers on massive Honda things that refused to move over and let us past. They just rode straight past the crash while we were all parked up.

That's the only issue with some of the more popular/traversed single track. Some people are great and use the passing points that are ever 20 meters to let you past. Others just sit in the road doing 25mph holding up 10+ cars.