Driving CarreraLightweightRacing's 996 'CLR' (briefly)
Discussion
This just keeps getting better!
Although I doubt it will be within my reach to do something along these lines, I salute the focus and attention to detail. Looking forward to seeing how you develop this - presumably the intention is to offer individual upgrades / combinations / full cars in future?
Although I doubt it will be within my reach to do something along these lines, I salute the focus and attention to detail. Looking forward to seeing how you develop this - presumably the intention is to offer individual upgrades / combinations / full cars in future?
Diesel Meister said:
This just keeps getting better!
Although I doubt it will be within my reach to do something along these lines, I salute the focus and attention to detail. Looking forward to seeing how you develop this - presumably the intention is to offer individual upgrades / combinations / full cars in future?
Right now I'm not too sure which way to best take this. My aim is to create the best 911 driving experience possible for me! so I focus 100% on all the key components which add to the driving experience, the sound, handling, performance, balance... Looks are subjective and it's not possible to please everyone. But I have given considered thought and decided that sticking to prestigious brands and styles; many with historical connections to Porsche, I should get somewhere close to something quite interesting. I have also tried where I can to design/develop my own parts (Top mounts, seat rails, suspension arms, PAS system conversion, Exhaust, all Carbon panels, CLR interior, wheels, cooling system, brake system, weight loss program...). There is absolutely no compromise with this car; where I have approached aftermarket companies, I have only gone to the serious players and only their best products on the market or asked them to develop something specifically for me/CLR. To get down to the target of 1086kg and retain as much of the creature comforts as is practically possible, has not been so straight forward. I am now onto my 3rd design of LCA for instance, 2nd set of wheels... I haven't gone into any details about all the development work, but the end product I'm really hoping will be something very special Although I doubt it will be within my reach to do something along these lines, I salute the focus and attention to detail. Looking forward to seeing how you develop this - presumably the intention is to offer individual upgrades / combinations / full cars in future?
I would have spent far more than a GT3 costs by the end of this venture. But I have no doubts that this car will perform on a whole scale of magnitude better than a GT3; well that's how I'm trying to justify all this work and expense anyway - Man-maths at it's finest 
Well, I salute you sir as it's a mouth-watering prospect as well as an informative and enjoyable read.
My vague point was that this development car offers the ultimate in terms of distillation of those elements of the driving experience most important to you (you'll not be alone I might add!), but the potential ability to gradually transform a car may suit some, as well as to pick and choose certain elements of it (which I guess anyone so inclined and sufficiently committed, as with yourself, could do). I guess it depends on what you're inclined to do and whether you see this as forming the basis of a potential business venture or just a hobby - whatever the case may be, thanks for sharing and consider yourself duly encouraged to continue!
My vague point was that this development car offers the ultimate in terms of distillation of those elements of the driving experience most important to you (you'll not be alone I might add!), but the potential ability to gradually transform a car may suit some, as well as to pick and choose certain elements of it (which I guess anyone so inclined and sufficiently committed, as with yourself, could do). I guess it depends on what you're inclined to do and whether you see this as forming the basis of a potential business venture or just a hobby - whatever the case may be, thanks for sharing and consider yourself duly encouraged to continue!
Gentlemen thank you for your kind comments, I really am grateful for you taking the time to add your positive thoughts and that there appears to be an element of approval for all this madness
Today I carried on with the laborious task of pre-paint test fit and adjustment of the carbon panels: Just about making the magical double-ton (-200kg reduction) with this latest round of parts
Diesel Meister, regarding the steering wheel. The CUP version is 350mm. I haven't tried any other aftermarket variant, but did consider asking Momo to make me a custom 370mm one with less dish than the CUP version. With so much on my plate right now though, I'll just have to leave this for another time
Today I carried on with the laborious task of pre-paint test fit and adjustment of the carbon panels: Just about making the magical double-ton (-200kg reduction) with this latest round of parts
Diesel Meister, regarding the steering wheel. The CUP version is 350mm. I haven't tried any other aftermarket variant, but did consider asking Momo to make me a custom 370mm one with less dish than the CUP version. With so much on my plate right now though, I'll just have to leave this for another time
edc said:
Are the seats the same as the 'GTR' Design911 seats? They do a reclining version but it is 15kgs vs the 6.5 kgs of the non-reclining seat.
They are, the seats in leather are 7.5kg each though and not 6.5kg (I guess that may be for the cloth version). At 15kg, the recliners are approaching the OEM seat weigh by the time you have added the rails so a non-starter for me CarreraLightweightRacing said:
edc said:
Are the seats the same as the 'GTR' Design911 seats? They do a reclining version but it is 15kgs vs the 6.5 kgs of the non-reclining seat.
They are, the seats in leather are 7.5kg each though and not 6.5kg (I guess that may be for the cloth version). At 15kg, the recliners are approaching the OEM seat weigh by the time you have added the rails so a non-starter for me CarreraLightweightRacing said:
edc said:
Are the seats the same as the 'GTR' Design911 seats? They do a reclining version but it is 15kgs vs the 6.5 kgs of the non-reclining seat.
They are, the seats in leather are 7.5kg each though and not 6.5kg (I guess that may be for the cloth version). At 15kg, the recliners are approaching the OEM seat weigh by the time you have added the rails so a non-starter for me I've been thinking for a long time to swap out to these seats.
edc said:
CarreraLightweightRacing said:
edc said:
Are the seats the same as the 'GTR' Design911 seats? They do a reclining version but it is 15kgs vs the 6.5 kgs of the non-reclining seat.
They are, the seats in leather are 7.5kg each though and not 6.5kg (I guess that may be for the cloth version). At 15kg, the recliners are approaching the OEM seat weigh by the time you have added the rails so a non-starter for me I've been thinking for a long time to swap out to these seats.
There's a chap called 'marseille' on boxa.net who has started out with a 2.5 Boxster, through a few iterations to a 3.4. He has also shed a lot of weight and done some very similar mods albeit on a different budget with off the shelf products or home-fab'd stuff. Might be useful to compare notes.
NAS said:
I am very curious how you will get this past TÜV Also because I would like to get a cup wheel and buckets in my 996 on German plates.
Good luck with the project!
yeah am curious about how time & cost intensive this will be. I spoke to Ferrari at some point about putting bucket seats and harnesses plus a Momo in a 355 and they said no TÜV if not OEM/approved for the car. I guess you have to do a Einzel-/Sonderabnahme or whatever it is called for each part? Also because I would like to get a cup wheel and buckets in my 996 on German plates. Good luck with the project!
MDL111 said:
NAS said:
I am very curious how you will get this past TÜV Also because I would like to get a cup wheel and buckets in my 996 on German plates.
Good luck with the project!
yeah am curious about how time & cost intensive this will be. I spoke to Ferrari at some point about putting bucket seats and harnesses plus a Momo in a 355 and they said no TÜV if not OEM/approved for the car. I guess you have to do a Einzel-/Sonderabnahme or whatever it is called for each part? Also because I would like to get a cup wheel and buckets in my 996 on German plates. Good luck with the project!
edc said:
There's a chap called 'marseille' on boxa.net who has started out with a 2.5 Boxster, through a few iterations to a 3.4. He has also shed a lot of weight and done some very similar mods albeit on a different budget with off the shelf products or home-fab'd stuff. Might be useful to compare notes.
I'll keep my eye out for this. Does he have a build thread?Edited by CarreraLightweightRacing on Friday 17th February 15:59
CarreraLightweightRacing said:
MDL111 said:
NAS said:
I am very curious how you will get this past TÜV Also because I would like to get a cup wheel and buckets in my 996 on German plates.
Good luck with the project!
yeah am curious about how time & cost intensive this will be. I spoke to Ferrari at some point about putting bucket seats and harnesses plus a Momo in a 355 and they said no TÜV if not OEM/approved for the car. I guess you have to do a Einzel-/Sonderabnahme or whatever it is called for each part? Also because I would like to get a cup wheel and buckets in my 996 on German plates. Good luck with the project!
Edited by CarreraLightweightRacing on Friday 17th February 14:12
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