Ultimatum EU Blueprint - The Final Solution

Ultimatum EU Blueprint - The Final Solution

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Mr GrimNasty

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8,172 posts

169 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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This is getting a lot of credible traction now - is it true?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-27/eu-offici...

Puggit

48,355 posts

247 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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It's in the Express, so I'm struggling to believe it is happening now. However, there is no smoke without fire!

FourWheelDrift

88,381 posts

283 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Calling it "The Final Solution" is not a good idea either.

TonyToniTone

3,420 posts

248 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Also posted in one of the other threads..

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

123 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Any country in the EU can use the Veto on that (if its true).

Blackpuddin

16,410 posts

204 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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The UK should take the lead in the creation of a new European union based on a stronger connection with ordinary people, on knowledge sharing, transparency and fairness rather than wastefulness, interference and central control. It would run in parallel with the EU until member countries reached the point at which they felt more comfortable with one than the other. Competition, in other words rather than an unaccountable monopoly.

SeeFive

8,280 posts

232 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Mr GrimNasty said:
This is getting a lot of credible traction now - is it true?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-27/eu-offici...
That just has to be scaremongering fantasy in the same way both campaigns for the vote last week were.

Even as a committed eurosceptic, I can't see that happening.

Police State

4,063 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Blackpuddin said:
The UK should take the lead in the creation of a new European union based on a stronger connection with ordinary people, on knowledge sharing, transparency and fairness rather than wastefulness, interference and central control. It would run in parallel with the EU until member countries reached the point at which they felt more comfortable with one than the other. Competition, in other words rather than an unaccountable monopoly.
This is what should have happened the first time around. There should have been a league of Northern European countries, and another made up of Southern/the rest. Perhaps even 2 Euro currencies. We can still get out of bed at 6am to go off for a full day's work, the southerners can have their 2 hour siestas and an early finish. The 2 currencies would reflect the difference in the respective economies... It's never too late for a NEU v2.0.

skahigh

2,023 posts

130 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Also reported by Bloomberg

Timmy40

12,915 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Seems quite plausible. After all why would France/Germany not now seek to rapidly accelerate the EU Super State project before the whole thing falls apart.

London424

12,826 posts

174 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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http://www.tvp.info/25939587/europejskie-superpans...

That's the link to the document...if that's a legit document then they are going all in and I for one am glad we won't be part of it!

E36GUY

5,906 posts

217 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Timmy40 said:
Seems quite plausible. After all why would France/Germany not now seek to rapidly accelerate the EU Super State project before the whole thing falls apart.
They can try but the Poles and Czechs will block it for starters.

Pistom

4,916 posts

158 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Makes a good story but that's about it. Plausible for the future but not in the immediate future.


lostkiwi

4,584 posts

123 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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E36GUY said:
Timmy40 said:
Seems quite plausible. After all why would France/Germany not now seek to rapidly accelerate the EU Super State project before the whole thing falls apart.
They can try but the Poles and Czechs will block it for starters.
Unless France and Germany exit the EU....whistle

Marc p

1,023 posts

141 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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London424 said:
http://www.tvp.info/25939587/europejskie-superpans...

That's the link to the document...if that's a legit document then they are going all in and I for one am glad we won't be part of it!
yikes Holy crap!

Jockman

17,912 posts

159 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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lostkiwi said:
E36GUY said:
Timmy40 said:
Seems quite plausible. After all why would France/Germany not now seek to rapidly accelerate the EU Super State project before the whole thing falls apart.
They can try but the Poles and Czechs will block it for starters.
Unless France and Germany exit the EU....whistle
hehe

MDMetal

2,775 posts

147 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Good, put an end to any debate about if the EU ship can be steered from it's pre-ordained course. Now let's create a proper co-operative pan European organisation for those who don't fancy joining the super-state and we'll all be back where we thought we should have been from the start.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

108 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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reuters* said said:
"Neither a simple call for more Europe nor a phase of mere reflection can be an adequate answer," Frank-Walter Steinmeier and Jean-Marc Ayrault said in the paper, a copy of which was seen by Reuters.

"To prevent the silent creeping erosion of our European project we have to be more focused on essentials and on meeting the concrete expectations of our citizens," they added.

The two ministers, whose countries are at the core of the EU, said it was important to recognize that member states had different appetites for deepening European integration.

"We have to find better ways of dealing with different levels of ambition so as to ensure that Europe delivers better on the expectations of all European citizens," they said.
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Edited by jjlynn27 on Tuesday 28th June 17:12

AJS-

15,366 posts

235 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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These are the people who our political leaders entrusted our future peace and prosperity to a week ago?

voyds9

8,488 posts

282 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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lostkiwi said:
Any country in the EU can use the Veto on that (if its true).
Hope this comes up before our exit, then we could veto it as a final farewell to JCJ.