911 R

[cayman-black]

Have folk gone mad?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche...

[Sam All]

A third of that, that's being generous. But in this market, anything goes.

Will spawn plenty of replicas

[boxsey]

That reads more like an advert for 'Magnitude Finance'....I wonder if their strap line is something like, "You flip it, We'll finance it".

[v8ksn]

I can't see the 911R being a million miles away from the 991.2 GT3 with a manual gearbox.

[Magic919]

What a load of st. Great advert for them, I guess.

[av185]

Sounds like the Daily Wail comedy gold reporting........like the comparison of the GT4 low numbers with the R.....only eleven times as many for the UK...

[rubystone]

bks.

[Guybrush]

Why don't Porsche just make more of them? Porsche know damn well how to make what '911 people' want in a 911; I get a bit irritated by their contrived creation of such a car in limited numbers.

[Upnorthgt3]

Guybrush said:

Why don't Porsche just make more of them? Porsche know damn well how to make what '911 people' want in a 911; I get a bit irritated by their contrived creation of such a car in limited numbers.

+1

I would say that this car has actually damaged my view of Porsche - ".....car for the enthusiast...." Intoned AP - what a load of complete codswallop, 90% of 'enthusiasts' won't even see this thing in the flesh

Exercise in marketing, nothing more, nothing less

[Timbola]

Upnorthgt3 said:

Exercise in marketing, nothing more, nothing less

Perhaps, and if so it's been a complete success at that.

It has everyone talking about Porsche after all, and driven the premium of the brand forward.

People willing to pay seven times the value of a car as soon as it drives off the forecourt? I've never heard of such a thing.

Edited by Timbola on Friday 22 July 07:39

[v8ksn]

What could have happened....in a Porsche board meeting.....

Board members: WOW! These PDK's are selling like hot cakes!

AP: cough....I would like to manual GT3 next

BM's: Hahahahaha!!!!! What a doofus! Can't you read? Look at the numbers! Nobody wants a manual anymore Andreas!

AP: I think they do....look how well the GT4 sold...

BM's: * They all fall silent

BM's: ......Well tough! ....We are not giving you any money to build one!

AP: Actually... we have this car we were using for development work on the GT3 and the guys in the workshop have tweaked it into something special...something like the 911R from '67

• at this point the marketing team look up from their iPhones and iPads and start seeing dollar signs

....the rest of the story you know

Would love one though!

[MDL111]

Upnorthgt3 said:

Guybrush said:

Why don't Porsche just make more of them? Porsche know damn well how to make what '911 people' want in a 911; I get a bit irritated by their contrived creation of such a car in limited numbers.

+1

I would say that this car has actually damaged my view of Porsche - ".....car for the enthusiast...." Intoned AP - what a load of complete codswallop, 90% of 'enthusiasts' won't even see this thing in the flesh

Exercise in marketing, nothing more, nothing less

yeah but if they then use most of the stuff in a normal GT3 (and you can get one without/with a small wing ala 993 RS), then at least the premiums and craziness showed Porsche the demand for certain features and contributed to a normal productioncn car becoming available with similar features. Once that has happened, the only material reason to want the R is the exclusivity .... which is a valid reason but should not matter to driving enthusiasts

[MDL111]

v8ksn said:

What could have happened....in a Porsche board meeting.....

Board members: WOW! These PDK's are selling like hot cakes!

AP: cough....I would like to manual GT3 next

BM's: Hahahahaha!!!!! What a doofus! Can't you read? Look at the numbers! Nobody wants a manual anymore Andreas!

AP: I think they do....look how well the GT4 sold...

BM's: * They all fall silent

BM's: ......Well tough! ....We are not giving you any money to build one!

AP: Actually... we have this car we were using for development work on the GT3 and the guys in the workshop have tweaked it into something special...something like the 911R from '67

• at this point the marketing team look up from their iPhones and iPads and start seeing dollar signs

....the rest of the story you know

Would love one though!

thank you - made my morning more enjoyable

[isaldiri]

MDL111 said:

yeah but if they then use most of the stuff in a normal GT3 (and you can get one without/with a small wing ala 993 RS), then at least the premiums and craziness showed Porsche the demand for certain features and contributed to a normal productioncn car becoming available with similar features. Once that has happened, the only material reason to want the R is the exclusivity .... which is a valid reason but should not matter to driving enthusiasts

^ this. It seems likely that the gen2 gt3 will feature the same manual gearbox and 4litre engine (that doesn't crap itself like the old one ) and like the gt4 now, there is no reason to think the gt3 will not be produced in decently large numbers so it will be gettable if one kept at it, even if it might be tricky to get a very early car to flip for maximum overs.....

[Carl_Manchester]

cayman-black said:

Have folk gone mad?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche...

people not gone mad, porsche have.

[v8ksn]

anonymous said:

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Interesting comments made by Walter from 7 mins on in this video.... https://youtu.be/tstkyZyuP6Y?t=6m55s

[Upnorthgt3]

MDL111 said:

Upnorthgt3 said:

Guybrush said:

Why don't Porsche just make more of them? Porsche know damn well how to make what '911 people' want in a 911; I get a bit irritated by their contrived creation of such a car in limited numbers.

+1

I would say that this car has actually damaged my view of Porsche - ".....car for the enthusiast...." Intoned AP - what a load of complete codswallop, 90% of 'enthusiasts' won't even see this thing in the flesh

Exercise in marketing, nothing more, nothing less

yeah but if they then use most of the stuff in a normal GT3 (and you can get one without/with a small wing ala 993 RS), then at least the premiums and craziness showed Porsche the demand for certain features and contributed to a normal productioncn car becoming available with similar features. Once that has happened, the only material reason to want the R is the exclusivity .... which is a valid reason but should not matter to driving enthusiasts

The point above about marketing is spot on - everyone IS talking about it and fundamentally it's obviously a good car (from what people say/report). My point is that it's supposed to be for enthusiasts and it clearly isn't, unless that statement is amended by the introduction of a line "......its for about 30 enthusiasts, the rest of you can go whistle....."

Most of us will never see it, let alone drive it so what's the point - it's not like it's some high end hyper-car - I could understand low numbers of that - it's an RS with a manual, some below car aero and no wing (oh and two stripes) - end

If they want to build a car for enthusiasts, please crack on 'cos the simple fact is there is not one car in the current Porsche line (available to buy now, in an OPC), I would want and that's a very sad thing and not good.

Build something with a 450bhp engine from the GT, make it stripped out (but give options to fit stuff back), option to areokit it (with a decent kit), make it manual or PDK for £100k and call it a club sport

Make as many as people want to order, forget about this exclusivity nonsense and get back to building cars enthusiasts can actually buy without getting ripped off

It's that easy, could not get any simpler

[MDL111]

anonymous said:

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I do not think it has skyrocketed but might not have decreased as much as the number of new cars available has gone down and also I suspect some are coming back to manuals after the Automated single clutch and then double clutch experience .

[noneedtolift]

Who on he has taken delivery of their R yet? I think I remembered a couple who had been given production month June or July? Mine's not due until October (pushed mine back as I wanted the single mass flywheel).

[CarCrazedFool]

I've heard confirmed reports one sold in Europe for 700k EUR. Incredible.