GT3RS... and OPC prices
Discussion
911R - totally agree, not defending the practise at all, OPCs are following the letter not the spirit of the law just because they would rather make the premiums rather the the customer.
Which also leads to a huge conflict of interest as to who gets the allocation
Which also leads to a huge conflict of interest as to who gets the allocation
Edited by Adam B on Wednesday 24th August 15:12
Can't single out UK OPC's. Porsche West Broward flipping a 991R.
http://www.porschewestbroward.com/detail-2016-pors...
Color & Equipment
Paint-to-sample Black Exterior with Black Leather and Seat Centers Upholstered in Houndstooth Design.
Extended Range Fuel Tank, 23.9 gal, Single-Mass Flywheel, 911 R Limitation Number, Front axle lift system, Air conditioning, Luggage net in passenger footwell, Smoking package, Light Design Package, Sport Chrono Package (Porsche Track Precision App), Floor Mats, 911 R Stripes in Red, Side Stripes with Porsche Script in Black, Auto-Dimming Mirrors with Integrated Rain Sensor, Porsche Communication Management (PCM) incl. navigation module, Online Services, Wheels Painted in Platinum Satin, LED Headlights in Black with Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS), SportDesign Exterior Mirror Upper Trim in Carbon Fiber, Steering column casing in leather. Fuel Cap with Aluminum Look Finish.
2016 Porsche 911
2dr Coupe 911 R
Condition Used Clear Title
Miles 31
Engine 4.0L FLAT 6 CYLINDER
Transmission Manual
Drivetrain Rear Wheel Drive
Exterior Color
Black
Interior Color
Black/GT Silver
Stock # P195121
VIN # WP0AF2A95GS195121
Warranty Full Factory Warranty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsKvSvJqUWk
http://www.porschewestbroward.com/detail-2016-pors...
Color & Equipment
Paint-to-sample Black Exterior with Black Leather and Seat Centers Upholstered in Houndstooth Design.
Extended Range Fuel Tank, 23.9 gal, Single-Mass Flywheel, 911 R Limitation Number, Front axle lift system, Air conditioning, Luggage net in passenger footwell, Smoking package, Light Design Package, Sport Chrono Package (Porsche Track Precision App), Floor Mats, 911 R Stripes in Red, Side Stripes with Porsche Script in Black, Auto-Dimming Mirrors with Integrated Rain Sensor, Porsche Communication Management (PCM) incl. navigation module, Online Services, Wheels Painted in Platinum Satin, LED Headlights in Black with Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS), SportDesign Exterior Mirror Upper Trim in Carbon Fiber, Steering column casing in leather. Fuel Cap with Aluminum Look Finish.
2016 Porsche 911
2dr Coupe 911 R
Condition Used Clear Title
Miles 31
Engine 4.0L FLAT 6 CYLINDER
Transmission Manual
Drivetrain Rear Wheel Drive
Exterior Color
Black
Interior Color
Black/GT Silver
Stock # P195121
VIN # WP0AF2A95GS195121
Warranty Full Factory Warranty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsKvSvJqUWk
Edited by Phooey on Wednesday 24th August 08:41
Adam B said:
OPC can't sell new cars over list, can sell second hand over list, think it's always been this way
Not what I was told... I was buying a used Boxster back in 98 and was told that the maximum price they could charge me was the list price, as that had been agreed with Porsche GB.In any case, it's really easy to turn a new car into a used car. Register to a family member and take it for a few spins and you have one slightly used vehicle.
Porsche Mayfair did that with a silver GT3 RS with comfort seats (?). They said is belonged to a customer who had changed his mind - hmmm. A friend bought it for a hefty premium but sold it on because he got cold feet and took a smaller loss when doing so. I think 5 - 10k is about the right premium these days - not more. But then again, this is one of the first Porsche's ever (4.0 and R apart) that has never traded below its launch price. I have done 6000 miles in mine and it is superb. I would not change it for an "R". I think they are hyped and with 991 being produced premiums will come down once supply meets demand. The 4.0 remains the rare beast among recent Porsche incarnations for all the right reasons.
mdianuk said:
What you were told back in 1998? Things have moved on a little since then!
Obviously... that was my point! Listen, I am not whining about it, I think we've done it to death on this thread now and I understand it fully from a business perspective, it just caught me by surprise. I hadn't realised that what I was told was no longer the case, but then I've been buying 997 turbos and cayennes, and not the really exotic cars. When you're used to depreciation paying well above list seems strange!
Not sure if the rules for 'flipping' brand new cars are the same in the US as UK. I see the 911R for sale is in the US.
We know it against the law for a dealer in the UK to charge above list price for a brand new car. I don't think its against the law in the US. I was pretty interested on the GT86/BRZ twins when they were launched and followed a few forums. Lots of disgruntled Yanks on them at the time the car was launched as US dealers (particularly Subaru) were charging over list price for early cars as demand was way out stripping supply.
We know it against the law for a dealer in the UK to charge above list price for a brand new car. I don't think its against the law in the US. I was pretty interested on the GT86/BRZ twins when they were launched and followed a few forums. Lots of disgruntled Yanks on them at the time the car was launched as US dealers (particularly Subaru) were charging over list price for early cars as demand was way out stripping supply.
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