Porsche hate on the roads
Discussion
DJMC said:
Test driving a 987 in 2014 an M3 driver courteously moved out of my way.
Many drivers in petrol stations have said they like my 981 Cayman.
I have experienced nothing much negative about driving it in 11 months of ownership.
I've noticed other Porsche drivers don't wave back when I acknowledge them?
Are some of US the problem?
Yep - obviously I'll get murdered tomorrow now I've said this, but six months into 911 ownership and it's been a mix of people moving out of the way and nice comments at petrol stations. And the grand total of one wave back from a 996 coming the other way. Lots of total pricks out there but strange how experiences can be so different.Many drivers in petrol stations have said they like my 981 Cayman.
I have experienced nothing much negative about driving it in 11 months of ownership.
I've noticed other Porsche drivers don't wave back when I acknowledge them?
Are some of US the problem?
hondansx said:
Having a bit of a fleet now, it's fascinating to see how people react depending on what car and the percieved status/heirachy associated with them.
In the Smart, people will pull in front of me with zero respect. Sometimes iv'e had to jump on the brakes and yet no thank you, or wave of the hand to apologise. On the flipside, you can be quite cheeky ducking and diving in traffic with no one batting bats an eyelid.
As you say, in a Porsche, things are different! If i am waiting to overtake someone whilst maintaining a similar gap as i would do in the Smart, i will regularly get the gesticulation you have described. In fact, in any other car i am fine, but some have a real aversion to the Porsche.
My theory is if they feel hustled aside, it is a threat upon their manhood so therefore aggression is a natural response. I say manhood, as i don't have the same issue with female drivers.
The most fun thing is jumping from the adversion of the Smart to my Audi RS6 (all black, tinted windows). No one pulls in front of me, no one attempts to overtake and i've never had any grief. There is an upside to looking like a drug dealer!
The question now is whether an all blacked out 911 would have the same affect!
Your RS6 looks like a great tool with loads of presence In the Smart, people will pull in front of me with zero respect. Sometimes iv'e had to jump on the brakes and yet no thank you, or wave of the hand to apologise. On the flipside, you can be quite cheeky ducking and diving in traffic with no one batting bats an eyelid.
As you say, in a Porsche, things are different! If i am waiting to overtake someone whilst maintaining a similar gap as i would do in the Smart, i will regularly get the gesticulation you have described. In fact, in any other car i am fine, but some have a real aversion to the Porsche.
My theory is if they feel hustled aside, it is a threat upon their manhood so therefore aggression is a natural response. I say manhood, as i don't have the same issue with female drivers.
The most fun thing is jumping from the adversion of the Smart to my Audi RS6 (all black, tinted windows). No one pulls in front of me, no one attempts to overtake and i've never had any grief. There is an upside to looking like a drug dealer!
The question now is whether an all blacked out 911 would have the same affect!
. Unfortunately jealously and prejudice features as much as respect and acceptance from fellow enthusiasts.I too pedal a Smart and most of the time it's accepted. Driven enthusiastically, within the laws of physics though, it can similarly agitate the male ego. I remember pressing on once whilst Modeo diesel man kept getting in the way. Minding my own business he had to prove that he could be outbraked and outmaneuvered at every junction resulting in a tirade of abuse and wkr signs before our routes took us separate ways. Had I been in my 911 I'd have passed him once only.
Unfortunately a Porsche is perceived as the ubiquitous 'fast flash car' and will always attract more focus, both positive and negative, than the average hack. Press-on amongst the masses and you'll only raise your chances of standing out even more and either getting the thumbs up or otherwise ;-)
Edited by jms1 on Friday 7th October 22:04
MrOrange said:
I got rid of my Cayman due to how other road users treated me, relentless coffee fisting, flashing lights and road rage.
Got an AMV8V next and the treatment was night and day better.
When I had my DB7 I experienced the same respect. Unfortunately the car was utter sGot an AMV8V next and the treatment was night and day better.
t to own and drive.The 981 Cayman gets the same respect I have found, but is also good to own and drive.
We don't get any coffee bean shakes in Germany, seems to be a British thing. Though I think the color has an influence on the mental state of the other rode users. At least that's what I experienced while owning a speed-yellow 996. The yellow even made drivers of Korean SUVs want to race me. Works with the wife's yellow Boxster too...
However, all's much better now with the black 964.
However, all's much better now with the black 964.
People have never been 'rude' to me in any Porsche , but you definitely don't get let out of junctions .
In an Aston or Lamborghini people go out of their way to let you out,in a Porsche they go out of their way to not let you out.
I will say that so far the gt4 gets better reaction than any of the 911s I have had.
In an Aston or Lamborghini people go out of their way to let you out,in a Porsche they go out of their way to not let you out.
I will say that so far the gt4 gets better reaction than any of the 911s I have had.
I've never experienced Porsche hate in either the Spyder or 996. The 996 has a private plate (which it came with) and it makes me extra self-conscious! I think sometimes this means I over compensate with courtesy and of course I always leave a lot of room around the car. I'm also never in a hurry in the 996 because it's only driven for fun. I wonder if these things lead to me driving it in a way which simply doesn't tend to aggravate other drivers. I find more aggression towards my diesel Peugeot banger, normally from people desperate to break the speed limit to get past.
I've only had a negative reaction a couple of times in performance cars. Some people are just tts whether they're in a car or not!
My station/commute car is an RS Clio which I bought in black so it blended in....that didn't work as every hot hatch and rep mobile wants to race! I get far more idiotic driving around me in the Clio than the Porsche
ts whether they're in a car or not!My station/commute car is an RS Clio which I bought in black so it blended in....that didn't work as every hot hatch and rep mobile wants to race! I get far more idiotic driving around me in the Clio than the Porsche
In the Mini Cooper S there is simply no reaction other than one stretch of 60mph single carriageway where I prep the overtake of the 40mph brigade (that also seem to do a hypocritical 40mph past schools too) by dropping back and accelerating through the preceding sweeping bend to carry me safely past on the straight, or to opt out without having to hit the anchors and pray. In the Golf R people tend to get caught out and startled by how quick it is since, as to the non-petrolhead it is "just a Golf". In the Cayman R, they see it in the mirror and get ready to shake the beans anyhow!! Yet at the garage forecourt, I get asked a lot about the Golf, a little about the Cayman and the Mini..... is just a Mini!
Steve Rance said:
Never had a problem - but I mince about like miss Daisy on the road. 964 gets the most smiles though.
Apart from the hot hatch brigade wanting to race I've not had a problem when driving my 964 either, in fact a couple of guys in a highways van pulled over and waved me past last week.I have more of a problem with the Audi Estate, especially from geriatrics unable to comprehend "merge in turn" where a dual carriageway merges into a single lane. As my wife said, "you driving up the outside lane of an half mile queue made you a queue jumper"
Edited by Paul Dishman on Saturday 8th October 18:17
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