0-60mph relevance???
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Can you guys give it to me straight about why 0-60mph is still held is such high esteem when talking up your own car.
An owner of a BMW M4 was telling me today how his car is super fast 0-60.....
Just seems like such an old mindset when you think about how well it would go round a track and how that variable is so loose!
An owner of a BMW M4 was telling me today how his car is super fast 0-60.....
Just seems like such an old mindset when you think about how well it would go round a track and how that variable is so loose!
But you're effectively doing the same thing!
Anglesey is a tight little place, not exactly the best place for a big coupe like the M4 compared to a lithe 981.
Put the 981 up against an M4 at La Sarthe, for example, and you'd get a differing result I'd imagine.
All of these figures are subjective to the car, the test and the individual interested. They can prove whatever you want them to.
Anglesey is a tight little place, not exactly the best place for a big coupe like the M4 compared to a lithe 981.
Put the 981 up against an M4 at La Sarthe, for example, and you'd get a differing result I'd imagine.
All of these figures are subjective to the car, the test and the individual interested. They can prove whatever you want them to.
sebulban said:
Whats your view of 0-60 as a performance metric?
It is more relevant now than it has ever been since the awesome latest TC/PDK/LSD/Electronics mean that everybody can easily replicate the road testers figures. The 0-60 is a great measure in high torque cars of how well they can get off the line, new Turbo S has just been measured by a mag in the US at 2.5s this displays what an awesome accelerative package Porsche have created compared to say the similar powered Nissan GTR which is always a bit slower when tested.For real power assessment it is generally agreed amongst hp heads that 0-300kph is the most accurate measure of real hp.
It's a piece of data just like all the others. Weight, mpg, top speed, price, equipment etc. how worse do magazines give some context to what a car can do relative to other cars with some stats. The only way you'll know how it 'feels' to drive is drive it yourself the way you like to drive.
A friend of mine had a 997 Turbo S for 3 years.
I had a drive in it one time and he said it could apparently do 0-60 in 2.9 secs, but most people wouldn't be able to actually achieve that, so they fitted an automated 'launch control'.
I asked him what it was like, and he said it was the most useless piece of kit on the car - "when am I ever going to need that unless I take it racing?"
He's since gone back to n/a Porsches, which he says are not as fast but far more fun.
I had a drive in it one time and he said it could apparently do 0-60 in 2.9 secs, but most people wouldn't be able to actually achieve that, so they fitted an automated 'launch control'.
I asked him what it was like, and he said it was the most useless piece of kit on the car - "when am I ever going to need that unless I take it racing?"
He's since gone back to n/a Porsches, which he says are not as fast but far more fun.
Every metric is important it tells you a story of the car
Some now prefer the 0-100mph time but some cars only need 3rf gear to get there others 4/5th gear ratio dependant.
Track time is not good as not every car is tested ie when is the lowest powered diesel Seat Albrahama time going to be published it isn't.
0-62mph is a key time that's existed for a very long time, ditto the 0-30mph a crucial one.
30-70 through the gears or held in 2/3/4/5th give an idea of engine flexibility
What relevace does top speed have?unless you break the law or manage to drive on clear AutoBahns it's willy waving irrelevance
Why isn't the COG or BHP/Tonne higher up people's register when reviewing cars?
Some now prefer the 0-100mph time but some cars only need 3rf gear to get there others 4/5th gear ratio dependant.
Track time is not good as not every car is tested ie when is the lowest powered diesel Seat Albrahama time going to be published it isn't.
0-62mph is a key time that's existed for a very long time, ditto the 0-30mph a crucial one.
30-70 through the gears or held in 2/3/4/5th give an idea of engine flexibility
What relevace does top speed have?unless you break the law or manage to drive on clear AutoBahns it's willy waving irrelevance
Why isn't the COG or BHP/Tonne higher up people's register when reviewing cars?
Welshbeef said:
Every metric is important it tells you a story of the car
Some now prefer the 0-100mph time but some cars only need 3rf gear to get there others 4/5th gear ratio dependant.
Track time is not good as not every car is tested ie when is the lowest powered diesel Seat Albrahama time going to be published it isn't.
0-62mph is a key time that's existed for a very long time, ditto the 0-30mph a crucial one.
30-70 through the gears or held in 2/3/4/5th give an idea of engine flexibility
What relevace does top speed have?unless you break the law or manage to drive on clear AutoBahns it's willy waving irrelevance
Why isn't the COG or BHP/Tonne higher up people's register when reviewing cars?
Power to weight would probably be a better number to compare than 0-60 times.Some now prefer the 0-100mph time but some cars only need 3rf gear to get there others 4/5th gear ratio dependant.
Track time is not good as not every car is tested ie when is the lowest powered diesel Seat Albrahama time going to be published it isn't.
0-62mph is a key time that's existed for a very long time, ditto the 0-30mph a crucial one.
30-70 through the gears or held in 2/3/4/5th give an idea of engine flexibility
What relevace does top speed have?unless you break the law or manage to drive on clear AutoBahns it's willy waving irrelevance
Why isn't the COG or BHP/Tonne higher up people's register when reviewing cars?
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