PZero N0 widow makers
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Imagine my surprise, going from a 987 running N2 PS2's (which probably came out a decade ago) and god like handling to a 981 wearing PZero N0's, or ditch finders as I like to call them.
Plenty of tread on the tyres but searching this forum shows much hatred and contempt for the N0 variant.
I plan to take them off the car and will replace them with N rated Goodyear Asymmetric 2, unless anyone else has a recommendation?
Plenty of tread on the tyres but searching this forum shows much hatred and contempt for the N0 variant.
I plan to take them off the car and will replace them with N rated Goodyear Asymmetric 2, unless anyone else has a recommendation?
Gerber1 said:
Imagine my surprise, going from a 987 running N2 PS2's (which probably came out a decade ago) and god like handling to a 981 wearing PZero N0's, or ditch finders as I like to call them.
Plenty of tread on the tyres but searching this forum shows much hatred and contempt for the N0 variant.
I plan to take them off the car and will replace them with N rated Goodyear Asymmetric 2, unless anyone else has a recommendation?
I had Pirelli on previous 981 - they were fine.Plenty of tread on the tyres but searching this forum shows much hatred and contempt for the N0 variant.
I plan to take them off the car and will replace them with N rated Goodyear Asymmetric 2, unless anyone else has a recommendation?
Drive on them until they are worn and then get whatever you like.
Running a car based on the opinions in this forum could prove to be: a) costly and b) wrong a lot of the time.
I've always steered clear of Pirelli P Zeros on my Porsche based on reviews from owners. If you google it, there seems to be a lot of bad experiences. Michelin always seem to rate pretty highly however.
I've previously always sworn by Continental, but I had a duff set that wore out entirely in 800 miles and my complaint to them fell on deaf ears, so they've lost a lifelong customer.
I've previously always sworn by Continental, but I had a duff set that wore out entirely in 800 miles and my complaint to them fell on deaf ears, so they've lost a lifelong customer.
I have the N0 variant on my 981. The problem seems to be cold temperatures. Without wishing to sound too F1, they don't seem to 'switch on'. I haven't been able to pinpoint a crossover temperature but North of ooh, say 7 or 8 degrees Celcius and they are fine, in both wet and dry conditions.
Have always had PZero Rossos on my 2004 986 and its done about 20 track days on them (more than one set!) since I bought it in 2008. Understeers a tad but then that's down to lack of neg camber. I have considered changing to Michelin Supersport or PS4s but I don't think I can get them in the right 18" sizes - but this isn't due to disappointment with the Pirellis.
my N1's are fineInterweb summary:
All P-zeros, since the begining of time, are superb tyres.... on dry Italian roads in the summertime... until they are half-worn, and then they drop off a cliff. Pun intended.
Cold and wet? It's best to catch a bus.
My experience matches the above.
As a wise man asked above - are you tied into warranty?
All P-zeros, since the begining of time, are superb tyres.... on dry Italian roads in the summertime... until they are half-worn, and then they drop off a cliff. Pun intended.
Cold and wet? It's best to catch a bus.
My experience matches the above.
As a wise man asked above - are you tied into warranty?
PZeros have a number of known issues. They offer very poor grip when cold in cold weather conditions and this seems to be exaggerated with tyre age. I have had a few slides round a shopping mall roundabout a very low speed in winter. The rubber seems to harden with age and you can often see cracking on the outer tread blocks after ~3 years if you are a low mileage user. The ride also becomes very uncompliant. I still had loads of tread left on the PZ but I replaced with Eagle F1s and it was night and day - much better in cold weather and the ride is far more cushy. Absolute grip in dry warm weather is probably similar, but I can feel F1s squirming a bit near the limit so you know where you are. Pzeros are ok if you are doing a lot of miles i.e. replacing them before the age degredation thing starts to kick in. The F1s are also less prone to tyre skipping when making full lock manoeuvres at low speed when cold.
There is a new PZ4 Pzero out though have not checked all the sizes. It should be a lot better.
There is a new PZ4 Pzero out though have not checked all the sizes. It should be a lot better.
Mine are surefooted at speed even in the current conditions which aren't favored by the wife's Michelin PS3's.
Came second in the Auto Express tyre review this year - maybe you've tried the older ones?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/918...
Came second in the Auto Express tyre review this year - maybe you've tried the older ones?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/918...
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